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Amiga Events : OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Posted by orgin on 2007/12/24 11:17:58 (5606 reads) News by the same author

afxgroup writes:

I'm happy to announce that today we have a web browser for AmigaOS4 that supports almost all modern web technologies. Since it's a project in an early state I'll first list a few things that doesn't work just yet..
Don't expect things like Toolbars and such to be present in the browser. But I assure you that we are working on this. But I wanted to release at least something for Christmas and also to get some feedback from you all.

ok.. let's go:

OS4Depot download

WHAT DOESN'T WORK:
# Cookies: sometimes and on some sites, login is impossible.
# Crashes: There are some sites that causes a crash and you could get a crash on exit. But don't send me crash logs.. the functions that crashes are known..
# Chars: Some international characters like some Italian ones are not printable.. :(
I can provide a special version for this, but it is better to wait for a new release where this is fixed
# Sites Display: 99% of sites works correctly.. but you could find some sites that doesn't render well. On some sites you could have problems with window redrawing
# Chinese fonts are not rendered (I think.. or I haven't found a right ttf font..)
# Don't expect Flash/Movie plugins (Yet)
# Sometimes the browser could send a bad request to the web server. Go back and click the link again
# Copy/Paste of text doesn't work at the moment
# There isn't a scroll bar yet
# File transfers
# And probably a few more minor things

WHAT WORKS:
# IT IS FREE.. ;)
# NO BOUNTY OR OTHER.. ;)
# Javascript should work on basically all sites
# CSS and all web technologies works perfectly
# True Type fonts are used to display fonts (see notes on how it work)
# SSL works (see notes)
# It's (quite) fast even on an A1200 (well.. don't expect the same speed as on an A1..)
# It's updated daily by the OWB developers (and me..)

INSTALLATION AND USAGE:
Copy the fc-cache file in the C/ directory to your C: directory (even if it's not needed) and run it
Copy the files in the FONTS/ directory into your FONTS: directory
Copy the file in S/ directory into your S: directory
Mount the RANDOM device from SYS:Storage/DosDrivers (or copy it into DEVS:)

To launch OWB just click on its icon or run from a shell with this syntax:

owb URL

The first time you run it, it will search the FONTS:_TrueType directory to
see what ttf fonts are available and it will create some cache files, so you might have to wait a few seconds depending on how many files you have in that directory. If you run fc-cache first then the owb launch will be faster.

To navigate back and forward use:
ALT -> to go forward
ALT <- to go back

Thanks to all the guys that are working/testing it.
Thanks Mason and Kens for the icons
It's Christmas.. remember me :)

Thank you and Merry Christmas!
Andrea Palmat?
http://www.amigasoft.net


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afxgroup
Published: 2007/12/24 11:23  Updated: 2007/12/24 11:23
Amigans Defender
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Taranto, Italy
Comments: 987
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
forgot..

FILE TRANSFER doesn't work!
Mikey_C
Published: 2007/12/24 11:25  Updated: 2007/12/24 11:25
Amigans Defender
Joined: 11/19/2006
From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
Comments: 2108
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Thank you afxgroup! Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!


We are not worthy! We are not worthy!!

Merry Christmas to you too!
Arnie
Published: 2007/12/24 12:11  Updated: 2007/12/24 12:11
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From: UK
Comments: 72
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Thanks very much, and a very merry Xmas and New Year to you.
Its sure nice to see more web sites load on an Amiga as they should look, can't wait for a full version this is one great Chrimbo present.
AmiKit
Published: 2007/12/24 12:14  Updated: 2007/12/24 12:14
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Comments: 527
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Wohoooo! Thanks to all involved! Resized Image
mufa
Published: 2007/12/24 12:19  Updated: 2007/12/24 12:19
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@ afxgroup

1000 x thanks
Raziel
Published: 2007/12/24 12:26  Updated: 2007/12/24 12:26
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From: a dying planet
Comments: 4341
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Oh goody

Thanks Andrea and keep on updating
MichaelMerkel
Published: 2007/12/24 13:59  Updated: 2007/12/24 13:59
Not too shy to talk
Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Germany
Comments: 305
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
no crash so far. runs very well

many many thanks!!

byebye...
Kicko
Published: 2007/12/24 14:41  Updated: 2007/12/24 15:02
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Joined: 10/25/2007
From: Gothenburg / Sweden
Comments: 1175
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Maaaaaan your the king :) Checking sites that looked ugly or not usable on amigabrowsers looks just nice with OWB :)

keep up the good work and merry christmas

EDIT: It asks for cygnix ? Does it really need it. I just assigned it to progdir and it worked.
Swisso
Published: 2007/12/24 14:59  Updated: 2007/12/24 14:59
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Joined: 11/29/2006
From: Earth
Comments: 257
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Thanks Andrea, works straight out of the box. Merry Christmas to you
LiveForIt
Published: 2007/12/24 16:02  Updated: 2007/12/24 16:02
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From: Norway
Comments: 2988
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Think it might look for fonts
Antique
Published: 2007/12/24 16:17  Updated: 2007/12/24 16:17
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From: Norway
Comments: 2502
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
This is great news. I'll have to check this out as soon as possible. Great work guys
Atheist
Published: 2007/12/24 16:50  Updated: 2007/12/24 16:50
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Joined: 11/28/2006
From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Comments: 759
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
I don't understand... this seems to be a "made from scratch" effort? Do I have it right? And it's native PPC??


Now I KNOW AOS4.0 IS a success..... Amiga$="Determination!"


You guys are SAINTS!!!!


(Hey, IBrowse, AWeb, and Voyager guys too!)


AMIGA! AOS4.x!
afxgroup
Published: 2007/12/24 17:09  Updated: 2007/12/24 17:09
Amigans Defender
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Taranto, Italy
Comments: 987
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Cygnix is not neded at all.. maybe it ask for cygnix assign because i'm using and Edgar lib..
Well, assign it to progdir
Raziel
Published: 2007/12/24 17:45  Updated: 2007/12/24 17:45
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From: a dying planet
Comments: 4341
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@Andrea

I'd love to betatest this baby as i think this needs support.

Is there a bugtracker (like on sourceforge) somewhere where i could sign up?

I wanna see OBW mature...
afxgroup
Published: 2007/12/24 18:04  Updated: 2007/12/24 18:04
Amigans Defender
Joined: 12/02/2006
From: Taranto, Italy
Comments: 987
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
there is a mailing list.. PM me your mail. i'll add you
bean
Published: 2007/12/24 18:17  Updated: 2007/12/24 18:17
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Well done!

You'll need to do something about the speed, but as a proof of concept this is better than excellent! I actually managed to browse quite a few sites and things like JS Menus worked!

Very impressive. Good luck for this project, I've got my fingers crossed.
PEB
Published: 2007/12/24 19:17  Updated: 2007/12/24 19:17
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Looking very promising.

Thanks Andrea!
joerg
Published: 2007/12/24 19:34  Updated: 2007/12/24 19:34
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Comments: 1022
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Quote:
OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
It's the 2nd. The first one was osb-browser (included in the AbiWord archive), but it has too much network problems to be usable, you have to reload most pages a few times until it gets all parts.
Raziel
Published: 2007/12/24 20:18  Updated: 2007/12/24 20:18
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@Andrea

You got a PM

...and did i say this is awesome?
Yes?
Well, it never hurts to say it twice
klesterjr
Published: 2007/12/24 22:32  Updated: 2007/12/25 19:17
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Edit: Icons are broken -- deleted link.
AmigaClyde
Published: 2007/12/24 23:51  Updated: 2007/12/24 23:51
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Comments: 46
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Great news
acefnq
Published: 2007/12/25 0:15  Updated: 2007/12/25 0:15
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2008 is alreafy looking up. Thanks to you and all involved.

ace
TSK
Published: 2007/12/25 1:44  Updated: 2007/12/25 1:44
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
This is great !!! Thanks 1000+ times !!!
GrumpyOldMan
Published: 2007/12/25 11:52  Updated: 2007/12/25 11:52
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Great work Andrea - finally a browser with all the bells and whistles on OS4! I followed the instructions I found from AW.net and managed to 'integrate' the OWB with IBrowse - now I can launch those pages which use CSS from IB and it works very well!

Most of the sites seem to work with OWB, but for some reason Wikipedia seems to be a no-go - its starts to load but sorta hangs. Anyone had success with for example en.wikipedia.org ?
Troels
Published: 2007/12/25 12:49  Updated: 2007/12/25 12:49
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Nice Christmas present, actually the best I got

Everybody please pay a visit to amigasoft.net and make a donation via the PayPal link. I think Andrea deserves a Christmas present as well
Jack
Published: 2007/12/25 14:15  Updated: 2007/12/25 14:30
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Joined: 11/27/2006
From: Israel
Comments: 932
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Many many 10x
I no-time it'll become a top d/l on os4depot

Edit:
How do I make pulldown menus (the radio button) work? (like "Interface language" in google's prefs.)
dony
Published: 2007/12/25 22:34  Updated: 2007/12/25 22:34
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What a great Christmas gift! And what a huge boost to the Amiga community! Thanks Andrea, you 're the best!
Rogue
Published: 2007/12/25 22:51  Updated: 2007/12/25 22:51
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Quote:
How do I make pulldown menus (the radio button) work? (like "Interface language" in google's prefs.)


IIRC you can click on it and use up/down arrows to scroll through the selections.
Jack
Published: 2007/12/26 0:21  Updated: 2007/12/26 0:23
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@Rogue

Quote:

Quote:

How do I make pulldown menus (the radio button) work? (like "Interface language" in google's prefs.)


IIRC you can click on it and use up/down arrows to scroll through the selections


Thanks a lot. Took a while to figure that leaving the mouse inside the gadget prevented displaying the changing options while using the arrow keys.

Another question: did anyone manage to use secure connections? Is it implemented in this version?

10x,
Jack
Raziel
Published: 2007/12/26 9:22  Updated: 2007/12/26 9:22
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@Jack

from the news item:
Quote:

# SSL works (see notes)

SSL Check

Yes, it does

Though i did not find any notes in the readme, neither
was i able to access my mail provider, but that is more
a problem of crunched js (because it broke there everytime)
Jack
Published: 2007/12/26 10:16  Updated: 2007/12/26 10:16
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Comments: 932
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@Raziel

Silly me.
The "notes" refers to copying a file into s:, I used "cp" and it didn't copy it (snoopy said it's missing).
Now all's well, 10x a lot

@all

Another question: what effect "--depth" has?
My WB duisplay is 16bit, owb defaults to 32.
Is there any env var to override it?


Jack
ikir
Published: 2007/12/26 12:49  Updated: 2007/12/26 12:49
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Donated! Please do the same!
Jack
Published: 2007/12/26 13:39  Updated: 2007/12/26 13:40
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@Ikir

Quote:

Donated! Please do the same!


Me too
Renoir
Published: 2007/12/26 16:06  Updated: 2007/12/26 16:06
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Also you need cygnix installed or you get requests to assign cygnix everytime you go to a url.
but I did re-install cygnix just to get rid of the requestor. Found owb was a bit speedier after that. Keep up the good work. Hope the cygnix dependancy goes away in future versions.

renoir
Mikey_C
Published: 2007/12/26 18:24  Updated: 2007/12/26 18:24
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Joined: 11/19/2006
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Comments: 2108
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Donated what little I could afford, was a bit tough with the paypal page being in italian.

Thanks!
Jack
Published: 2007/12/26 18:34  Updated: 2007/12/26 20:40
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From: Israel
Comments: 932
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@thread
Did anyone had any luck with wikipedia?
Here this one hogs the cpu:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viscosity

main page crashes...

edit:

Tested bidi functionality: works great! Now I can read Hebrew always rendered with correct directionality
I was using AWeb before, where with the aid of the author of charset.plugin I managed to filter all common Hebrew variants into displayable text but without bidi functionality, meant I was reading reversed text in most cases

And here's a minor glich in debug output (bold text):
Quote:

Document download has started for http://ynet.co.il/.
Document progress ended for cation:%20http://ynet.co.il/index.html.


Thanks for bringing the browser to Amiga community!
Jack
Amigamancer
Published: 2007/12/26 21:43  Updated: 2007/12/26 21:43
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Great.
I wonder if anyone tried it on a Amiga 1200. Does it run at a usable speed or is it too slow?
Mikey_C
Published: 2007/12/26 21:48  Updated: 2007/12/26 21:48
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Joined: 11/19/2006
From: Cambridgeshire, UK.
Comments: 2108
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Lets hope that the A1200 has a gfx card and a fast CPU on board. Else, I shudder to imagine.
Lemen
Published: 2007/12/27 1:54  Updated: 2007/12/27 1:54
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Looks good!

Donated
acefnq
Published: 2007/12/27 10:00  Updated: 2007/12/27 10:00
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Done

ace
dony
Published: 2007/12/27 10:02  Updated: 2007/12/27 10:02
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
@amigamancer:

It's quite slow on my 175MHz A1200 but don't forget it's still in very early stage of development. Maybe in some next version there 'll be some speed improvement...
AmiGame
Published: 2007/12/27 10:34  Updated: 2007/12/27 10:34
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Comments: 496
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That's a very nice xmas pressy ! Thanks.

I wil ltry it this weekend (back at work already today !).

Jerry
orgin
Published: 2007/12/27 11:25  Updated: 2007/12/27 11:25
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From: Sweden
Comments: 3227
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
You might want to install this patch to make using it a bit easier:

http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... k/browser/owbpatchurl.lha
Jack
Published: 2007/12/27 20:24  Updated: 2007/12/27 20:24
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Comments: 932
 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Quote:

You might want to install this patch to make using it a bit easier:

http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... k/browser/owbpatchurl.lha


Indeed. 10x!
Jack
Jack
Published: 2008/1/7 20:03  Updated: 2008/1/7 20:03
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 Re: OWB - The first (un)complete modern Web Browser
Are there any plans for mime types support?

Jack
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