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TetiSoft
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/1 20:14    #21
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I can break things down here so that eg. temperatures
are in Celsius, long distances are in miles and short distances
are in metres. Of course, that is worthless if the UK locale
is telling me to only use metric units.

When you know better than the OS how an UK locale should look
like, you are IMHO allowed to ignore the metrics system flag and to
use your own ideas about the UK measuring system. The ISO
3166 Alpha-3 cp_CountryCode is "GBR".
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TetiSoft
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/1 20:24    #22
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About the tilde on the superscript key, that's really strange because I've never seen that on french PC keyboard

Maybe you missed that I've edited my answer, sorry.
Just thought that placing a tilde on Shift-SuperScript2
would be a good idea, there existed no non-dead tilde
on the MicroSoft keymap and no(!) character on the shifted
key so I've added it, just in case somebody may need it,
and just in case some french Amiga user would expect it
there (the french Amiga keyboard has it at this position).
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abalaban
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/1 22:12    #23
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Ok, that's just a thing one should know (I verified on my A1200 keyboard and noticed that he had the tilde on that position, what a pity after "only" 3 years with my new A1 I forgot the layout of my good old Amiga keyboard that I used for almost twenty years

Thank you for your patience.
Back to a quiet home... At last
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spotUP
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/2 16:56    #24
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i have reported it numerous times, this time however i seem to have gotten some response, that's good! =)
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ssolie
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/2 18:59    #25
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i have reported it numerous times...

That's great! You'd make a good beta tester. Part of the testing job is to never give up on the developers.

Perhaps part of the problem is the use of web forums for reporting issues? It is very convenient for the user but I find it to be a real pain the @ss for the developers. Always try and email a person directly.

Again, thanks for not giving up on the issue.
ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/2 19:06    #26
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the problem is that i don't know where to send the mail.
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TetiSoft
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/2 19:34    #27
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When you write a detailed list of problems with the swedish
catalog files and send it to your favourite swedish translator,
swedish betatester, translator, betatester, developer or to me
it will hopefully be forwarded to the OS4 bugzilla database and
the swedish translators.
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drHirudo
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/3 18:03    #28
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TetiSoft wrote:
@drHirudo

Its IMHO not the problem of OS4 but the problem of either your
IRC client which fails to tell the outer world that you
are using ISO-8859-5 or the problem of the IRC clients
of the other folks which dont know how to convert ISO-8859-5
to their current system default charset.


Hmmm, the problem as I see it is that when using the standart AmigaOS 4 bulgarian locale it produces characters with different ASCII codes than the standart ones. When I typed with IBrowse in the google search bar some text it returned something like this:
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Your search - ?????? - did not match any documents.

Suggestions:


Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.

When I type it with my handmade keyboard (adjusted for AOS 4.0), even if I can't read the typed text, Google returns what I wanted to find, and the people on IRC read what I wrote, not some unknown characters. So this is not problem of AmIRC at least, but also of IBrowse, but at least IBrowse returns the texts in readable format, even if my default locale is not bulgarian, and when setting AmIRC to use BTopaz it works. I am pretty satisfied anyway, since my hack works pretty ok, for 3 weeks now. I am going to publish it someday.

But I noticed similar problem with XChat on Windows - I switched to some Latin->Cyrillic translation type mode and nobody was able to read what I typed, but I read them.
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TetiSoft
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/5 10:32    #29
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Hmmm, the problem as I see it is that when using the standart AmigaOS 4 bulgarian locale it produces characters with different ASCII codes than the standart ones.
When I typed with IBrowse in the google search bar some text it returned something like this:
Quote:
Your search - ?????? - did not match any documents.

This depends on your definition of "standard". The OS4 bulgarian
locale uses the ISO-8859-5 standard, the bulgarian department of
Google uses the windows-1251 standard. IBrowse seems to be unable
to use any other charset than the current system default charset
in its MUI GUI, probably because MUI doesnt support charsets,
so you see ISO-8859-5 characters in the MUI string gadget when
typing text but Google expects windows-1251 characters and IBrowse
seems to miss to tell Google about the charset of the text you typed
(or the protocol doesnt allow this).

I've written an Amiga-1251 version of the bulgarian language
driver which should work around this problems, as already
written in PM, I'd need your EMail address to send it to you
for testing.
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drHirudo
Re: Own up... who broke the UK locale?
Posted on: 2007/2/5 20:37    #30
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Thanks, the new language driver works pretty well. The fonts in AmIRC are shown as expected. I am using it right now, and everybody understands me.
Thanks again.
drHirudo
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