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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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@nbache

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OWB doesn't support HTTP authentication (yet?). But as described here it might be possible to use the trick of embedding the username and password in the URL.
Only with old versions of OWB, passing username:password in the URL to the network library (Curl in case of OWB) without any browser control was disabled in WebKit some weeks ago and this workaround can't be used any more.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@xenic

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O.K. I renamed my OpenURL prefs file in ENVARC: and opened the OpenURL prefs program to get the default settings like you did. I set YAM as the mailer with the default settings (YAM:YAM ...) and saved it. I got the "please insert volume YAM:" requester twice and cancelled each time. It didn't crash but OpenURL didn't issue any error message either. I'm sure you've had your share of frustration with reported problems that you can't reproduce. I'll continue testing.
I get the requester twice before it crashes as well. The stack trace doesn't help since it doesn't include anything from C:OpenURL nor LIBS:openurl.library, it crashes in the dos.library function PrintFault(). Maybe openurl passes a pointer to freed memory to dos.library and it only crashes if you have "MUNGE" in your os4_commandline.

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@nubechecorre

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Why don't you do so ?
I can't do it since I don't have the IBrowse sources, the IBrowse developers would have to do it, the sources of OWB are on the sand-labs SVN.
But even if I would have the IBrowse sources I wouldn't do it because IBrowse uses MUI.

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why don't you switch to mui ? you are a great programmer !!
Although it's possible to create halfway usable programs even with MUI it's way too much work to work around it's bugs and design flaws. Additionally MUI has too few features, for example tabs wouldn't have been possible if I would have used MUI, it's clicktab gadget doesn't support dynamically adding and removing tabs.
If MUI would have been the only option I wouldn't have created an AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB at all.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@Hans

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P.S. It's not about OWB being able to use IBrowse's one current plugin, but all browsers (excluding no longer developed ones like Voyager and AWeb) being able to use the same set of plugins.
AFAIK Netsurf doesn't support NPAPI plugins.

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@samo79

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That's the reason why we told you to switch to MUi
The "GUI" you'd have got in the AmigaOS 4.x OWB if unusable crap like MUI would have been the only option is still on os4depot http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... rk/browser/owb_static.lha

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@Futaura

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As for 3.0, at this moment in time it's not looking like it's going to happen, but never say never . And indeed with OWB, why bother?
Because it's a complete browser, unlike OWB which doesn't even have a toolbar (in the SDL, GTK and Qt versions).

The WebKit engine used by OWB is of course much better than the one of IBrowse and it's impossible to add all features of WebKit or Gecko to the IBrowse engine, but adding the missing features (DOM, CSS and IFrames) to get 99% of the pages working correctly again in IBrowse is very likely less work than implementing an AmigaOS 4.x browser around OWB.

Another option would be to throw away the IBrowse engine and replace it by WebKit or Gecko, for example just using the IBrowse GUI and network functions (in which the only important missing feature is AFAIK HTTP/1.1 persistent connections) with WebKit as engine, which should be quite easy if you use OWB instead of WebKit directly, would be a much better browser than OWB. It would have a disk cache, working cookie support, cookie manager, download manager, support for HTTP authentication with password manager and a lot of other features OWB doesn't have, and wont get for years.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@xenic

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@joerg
Your readme mentions a problem with OpenURL when the requested program can't be found. I was unable to reproduce the problem. Could you check and be sure that you are using OS4 OpenURL from OS4Depot?
It's the one from os4depot. I installed it (manually since the installer script doesn't work), enabled the YAM entry in it's prefs (without having YAM installed nor a YAM: assign), used something like "OpenURL mailto:test@example.com" in a shell and after pressing cancel in the "please insert volume YAM:" requester it crashed.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@Hans

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However, there's no technical reason why the same API couldn't be used on all browsers.
IBrowse and it's plugins are m68k. It doesn't make any sense to slow down all plugins in an AmigaOS 4.x only browser like OWB with double context switches everywhere (PPC native OWB code -> m68k IBrowse plugin stubs -> PPC native plugin code, PPC native plugin code -> m68k IBrowse plugin stubs -> PPC native OWB code) just to be compatible to the useless IBrowse flash plugin, which is even much worse than the limited SWF support of libgnashplugin.so.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@Hans

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Someone would have implemented it either way, since people want to be able to use plugins.
If that would really be the case someone would have implemented it already. The GTK version of OWB did support NPAPI plugins already before the first AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB was done by Andrea.
It's the same for nearly everything else in OWB as well, if I don't implement it nobody does. There are only very few exceptions, in the current versions of OWB the bookmark and the StringView gadget with urlhistory.

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All I can say is that I had hoped that there would be only one NPAPI implementation for Amiga OS instead of two versions of the same thing. It's not that big a deal though.
Even if someone would implement support for AmigaOS library plugins in OWB the IBrowse plugins wouldn't work in OWB, and OWB plugins not in IBrowse.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@Hans

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If shared object support didn't exist on Amiga OS 4, we wouldn't be having this conversation,
Yes, but because the AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB very likely wouldn't get any plugin support at all.

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since no one would have an issue with adapting NPAPI to work as a shared library.
What's the difference to now? As I wrote already if someone else wants to implement an AmigaOS-only plugin API for OWB I'll add the changes in my OWB port.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@xeron
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What about the IBrowse NPAPI flash plugin? Can't you test against that?
No, NPAPI plugins are shared objects, the IBrowse plugins aren't.


@Hans
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It's been noted before, and no doubt the NPAPI on OWB will be made compatible
If someone else wants to add support for IBrowse plugins that's no problem. OWB is open source, just implement it and add a patch to the OWB trac, or send it to me.
I wont implement support for AWeb, IBrowse, or any other custom plugin system in the AmigaOS 4.x port of OWB, I'll only implement support for standard NPAPI plugins.

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Re: OWB 3.13
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@OldAmigan

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- Unsupported protocols like mailto: can be passed to an external program
now (tooltype OPENURL).

Given the latest posts here and on AW.net about Gnash, does this mean that we can call a gnash function in this way, or is it just by tooltype?
SWF doesn't use an own protocol, it can only be used for links with protocols like mailto:, news:, etc., which aren't supported by OWB.

For NPAPI plugins like libgnashplugin.so I'll have to add some AmigaOS 4.x specific implementations in the plugin parts of OWB, currently only the GTK version of OWB supports plugins. The main problem with that is that there are no AmigaOS 4.x plugins yet, and without a plugin I can't test it ...

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Re: Yet another OWB bookmarking tool
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@nbache

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b) It would be great if we could also get menu access to the bookmarks.
That would only be possible if it's integrated into OWB.

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c) I'd also prefer Reaction over MUI for this (because OWB uses Reaction) - but it is not crucial for me.
For an external bookmark tool the GUI system used doesn't matter, just like for example with the Hollywood OWB AddressBook from Paul E. Bloedel.
If it should be integrated into OWB it has to have an AmigaOS BOOPSI GUI like the "OWB GUI" from George Sokianos which I'm currently using in OWB (http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... twork/browser/owb_gui.lha ), and I need the sources of it, with a BSD or similar licence.

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Re: SUBWAY USB on AmigaOS4.0 (A1200T-PPC)
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@VooDoo

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Yeah Subway is working only wiht Poseidon SW! and if Posedion is workig on OS4 , suwbay will work!
If it's using DMA only if there is an AmigaOS 4.x Subway driver, m68k DMA drivers can't work on a PPC OS.

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Re: OWB 3.12
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@nexus

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here:

http://tamar.net/phpBB/login.php

It is not possible to click on the "Log me automatically .." Checkbox. This didnt work in any OWB version. But it seems to be a normal <input>-metatag?:
Are you sure it doesn't work? Just because you can't see the black X on a black background doesn't mean it's not there

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Re: OWB 3.12
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@Paul

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Is there a change I could make in settings which would keep the OWB window from resizing itself way beyond the limits of the screen?
If it still happens with OWB version 3.12 the only way is disabling tabs and using multiple windows instead.
(Until the next AmigaOS update with newer version of clicktab.gadget is released.)

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Re: OWB 3.12
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@Deniil

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Actually, lack of spoofing prevented me from entering a site recently. Trying IBrowse spoofing as FF1.5 let me in and it worked fine which was unexpected on such a site (can't remember which now)
The User-Agent can be changed by setting the environment variable OWB_USER_AGENT, use something like
setenv OWB_USER_AGENT "OWB/3.12 (AmigaOS 4.1; ppc; U)"
in a shell before starting OWB.

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Re: The MUI vs Reaction slapfest thread (was OWB 3.6)
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@ShInKurO

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In any case, custom class of OWB AROS is now avaiable, so it's possible to use it...
It can't be used in the AmigaOS OWB since it's a Zune class, not an AmigaOS 3.5+ BOOPSI class. If someone removes the Zune dependencies and addds the missing BOOPSI methods and attributes I might use it for OWB, but I wont port it myself.

If you want an OWB with a MUI or a Zune GUI you have to create it yourself, or port Zune and the AROS OWB to AmigaOS 4.x.

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Re: Translators Wanted
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@BillE

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I saw that but ATM it is as clear as mud on how to do it.

I suppose I could use a set of glyphs (preferably ones I do not have to try to draw myself) for the Bayer designations shown on the DU backdrop. I wonder how it would be possible to mix them with a normal font within the Information window unless they and normal characters are both available.
Depends on what you mean with "normal characters", the US-ACSII ones are included in all ISO-8859 charsets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-7
If you need greek and the system default charset the easiest way is to open the font twice, once with TA_CharSet, 10 (greek) and once without (system default charset for localized texts).

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Re: Greek Characters - Re: Translators Wanted
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@BillE

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If there is a better way of doing things if someone could let me know, and then I may be able to do something else for v2.
To open a font in a different charset than the system default one you have to use something like (untested)
struct TagItem tags[] = { { TA_CharSet10 /* 10 = MIBenum for ISO-8859-7, check L:CharSets/character-sets for others */, { TAG_DONE} };
struct TTextAttr textAttr = {"DejaVu Sans" /* has to be a TTF font with greek chars, "Topaz", "Fixed" or a bitmap font which is available in ISO-8859-7 included with your program */font_sizeFSF_TAGGEDFPF_DISKFONTtags};
struct TextFont *greekFont IDiskFont->OpenDiskFont((struct TextAttr *)&textAttr);

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