@Kas1e

Your are describing exactly what I have already described here : https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/ ... id=134397#forumpost134397

Did you read it ?

Did you see these videos I posted in which you can see what you are describing ?

https://video.amiga-ng.org/w/brSDvVv8tjJ6znCThsUd7i
https://video.amiga-ng.org/w/kgM94MRF2bngfizdiGrvBH

I have already made extensive tests (without being a beta tester so having paid for it even if the results are not worth the 53 Euros asked for it ATM) and concluded what you find "interesting" :)

If you have the same results with latest version of the driver, I'm afraid it won't be of any use neither :(

@kas1e

As you say.

X1000 user have already spent lots of money on Enhancer Software, Radeon HD drivers up to 3x, Warp3D Si, Radeon HD diver v5 and now NovaBridge...

In less than two months, we have to pay 100 Euros to get a not really good VAAPI decoding driver (I know Hans i trying to enhance it but ATM it is really expensive for what it can do) and a better support of old Warp3D softwares (while we paid for Warp3D SI and we do not even get a discount).

Not mentioning that buying an X1000 was way more expensive than buying a X5000.

Hans provided great support for us but where will be able to find money (we can't all be beta testers) ?

@Kas1e

Yes, I posted videos showing exactly what you describe with Emotion : video is smooth but sound has hickups when the decoding process takes too much of the GPU power (or bandwidth as you seem to have found).

With DvPlayer, it's the contrary : video is not smooth but sound is ok (and DvPlayer handles very badly reading a video from HDD).

I wanted to demo Emotion on my X1000 with my Radeon HD and Radeon HD drriver v5 during the forthcoming MicroAlchimie but I fear I won't do since it's not exactly what we could call eyes-blowing at the moment (or I will just have to turn the sound off and hope that the GSOTD - Grey Screen Of The Death- doesn't show up ^^ ).

Interesting only for Radeon RX users.

Those who paid for Warp3D SI won't pay another 53€ for NovaBridge since It works without too much trouble.

What does it bring over Warp3D SI ? It it better ?

@kas1e

For Emotion, if you want real speed, click outside of Emotion's window (on the WB for example).

@kas1e

I think MultiViewer uses GPU memory above the 256MB.

@Spectre660

Sorry, I was speaking for my X1000. Thanks for testing on Sam460 since for them, it would be great to be able to play 720p videos without any trouble.

@DjBase

Yes, I posted a link mentionning the GPU capababilities. For the moment, the driver can decode 720p (not too heavy one) videos. Hans explained thinges here : https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/ ... id=134281#forumpost134281

@Spectre660

I have no sound problem with DvPlayer (because it skips lots of frames when GPU can't cope with hardware decoding). On the contrary, Emotion doesn't skip any frame but when GPU is overloaded (many things moving on a high quality 720p video), sound will have hickups.

Nothing related with audio card, juste the GPU overloaded (BTW, you can feel that the GPU is overloaded since the mouse slow down when you move it on the WB).

Some 720p videos will play without any problem (not many things moving, less compression and so on...) whereas other will put the GPU on its knees.

I guess there is room for improvements in Emotion, DvPlayer AND the Radeon HD v5 driver.

@imagodespira

Thanks for your answer here, I thought that writing via AmiStore would help you answer me directly.

Anyway, glad to see you are both trying to make it work (Emotion is my favourite player).

@Petrol

I gave a solution regarding Emotion, did you try it ? You did not ask this question on Amiga-ng.org.

See https://amiga-ng.org/viewtopic.php?topic=2704&forum=6&start=10

I'm using Dynamic for video since there was no difference with High Power in all of my tests.

@LiveForIt

Yes, indeed, DvPlayer has problems reading from hard disk. I use a hard disk (not a SSD) which has been defragmented (to be sure). But reading from RAM: will cause the same jerkyness (not smooth) without big hickups.

For Emotion, I don't know. T'd like to have information from the authors but maybe it is not supported anymore.

And for MPlayer, I know, it was just for comparison. I don't know if VAAPi will be supported eventually (would it be complicated to add it)

@Spectre660 : I doubt it, it happens when video needs much decoding power.

You did not watch the video, did you? (otherwise, you would not have answered this ;- ) ).

@Thread

Two videos taken from my AmigaOne X1000 with a R7 250 and latest official Radeon HD v5 driver

1st one : MPlayer, Emotion and DvPlayer (crashed with grey screen, compelled to reboot to start it again). I also added a video of MPlayer MorphOS on a PowerMac G5 2,7 Ghz and a Radeon 9650 reading the same video.

* MPlayer comp_yuv2 : can't cope with the video. CPU at 100% and desynced sound.

* Emotion : no frame drop but many sound hicckups when the GPU can't cope with decoding.

* DvPlayer : no sound hicckups but many framedrops when the GPU can't cope with decoding.

*MPlayer for MorphOS : no problem reading the whole video (2,7 Ghz and AltiVec may greatly help here).

The same file was read from the same SATA hard drive on X1000 (and from a FireWire hard drive on MorphOS). DvPlayer seems to have troubles reading fluently from a hard drive (whereas there is no problem with Emotion). In RAM: no probem for any of the players.

The second video is Emotion streaming a 720p YouTube video (thanks to aiostreams).

Here again, when GPU cannot cope with hardware decoding, you will encounter sound hicckups. Too bad since it's a great solution to watch YouTube streams.

Note : for Emotion, you have to click outside its window to make it work correctly, otherwise, it will all be jerky. I filled a bug report in AmiStore.

The videos :

https://video.amiga-ng.org/w/brSDvVv8tjJ6znCThsUd7i
https://video.amiga-ng.org/w/kgM94MRF2bngfizdiGrvBH

They are hosted on our own PeerTube since YouTube usually degrades video quality (don't put them on YouTube BTW).

Sorry for the bad quality of the sound on the 2nd video (and a little bit in the 1st) : HD Audio chipset on X1000 may not be enough isolated and we don't have HDMI sound output so jack only.

@Lozspd4

Which card are you using ?

@Hans

Indeed, SI cards can play 1080p videos : https://bluesky-soft.com/en/dxvac/deviceInfo/decoder/amd.html

Let's wait for new versions of Emotion and/or DvPlayer (or Mplayer?).

ATM GPU can't do much better than CPU (on X1000 I mean) but maybe it's a huge improvement for Sam460 owners.

@Hans

Can we expect better performances regarding video decoding with future versions of the Radeon HD Driver v5 or have we reached the maximum that is possible?

Or buy the Radeon HD Driver v5 with support for VAAPI if your have a supported card.

@thread

Something weird I have encountered but which makes Emotion becoming again the best video player on AmigaOS 4.1.

When playing a video with Emotion: click outside of Emotion's window ("defocus" it) and then no more sound or video hickups. If you focus again on Emotion's window, video will slow down again and sound will stutter.*

With this little "trick", Emotion handles way better than DvPlayer videos.

Hi,

I get the same with Partition Wizard.