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Hi Capehill,

Thanks for a really handy program!

A really nice way to see what's happening on your Amiga.

One little thing I keep seeing when I start Tequilla from the
shell (even from inside the Tequilla dir), the Workbench or
AmiDock... I typically get a console output/window with this
line:

Failed to open catalog (205)

I'm running a fairly basic OS4 (old beta) install with the US
english locale.

Any ideas what might be missing?

Thanks again,

PJS

@geennaam

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Why should they be blocked? When it comes to the driver's story I want to stay out of it, that just means it's their driver, they developed him and others need to respect how and where and with what conditions he is available.

Regarding the Qemu problem:

With the Pegasos2 machine there are currently problems operating SDL1 ports and only on this machine. AmigaOneXe/Sam460 can handle SDL1 applications without any problems, we don't yet know why this is and are trying to solve the problem.

The combination of Qemu Pegasos2/SM502 as a graphics card does not seem to be the problem, as this card works with the AmigaOneXe machine and SDL1.

So I ask you to do one last test before you rebuild your system. You can use the link I provided above that Capehill has provided especially for this purpose. Or you can test a few applications from Os4Depot, for example. MegaMario/SpaceInvaders and E-Uae.

You should test it with 16/32 bit output.And to share this result here, we suspect that it could be something in the kernel/graphic.library.kmod or PCIGraphics.card (Pegasos2) Balaton has described several times that a Qemu error has been ruled out, since AmigaOneXe/Pegasos2 are on identical machines code based.

This could prove that there really could be a kernel or kickstart library problem from AmigaOs4.1 for Pegasos2.

@Maijestro

The system is transformed back to a windows PC. And I am not at home right now. So I will not be able to test. Maybe next week. Unless I am banned from this site just like from Discord #amigans .

I haven't been following the discussion. What is wrong with sdl1? Something 16bit screenmode related?

The passtrough system is using 32bit screenmodes and aeon radeonhd drivers.

Hey guys,

First, thanks guys for your continued quiet, dilligent work
on MPlayer. No drama, just results. :D

I've been using this MPlayer:

MPlayer 1.5-rc2 (01/26/2024) SVN-r38440-snapshot-11.3.0

...mostly for YT streaming, etc. and I'm noticing that it most
often seems to quit before reaching the end of the stream.

I wondered if anyone else has noticed this or if any of the devs
working on this might have any insight on what's happening.

This is on my X5K using Mick's YT.rexx (directly or via
IBrowse) using the mostly default .config with whichever VO is
used with the RadeonHD 6450.

Thanks again,

PJS

@geennaam

I am not sure if you have already rebuilt your Qemu test system with r9 270, but I have a request if you are still using it could you maybe check if there are also SDL1 problems under your system?

A good test for this would be http://capehill.kapsi.fi/misc/BlitTest.lha unfortunately this information comes too late and I would have asked you earlier than you just tested the system.

@balaton @Caphill

It would be interesting to know if @Hans has the same problems with his VirtioGPU drivers or someone who has already used a real graphics card with Qemu.

@Gebrochen

Well it should be included. The original Amiga releases had the files included on CD. The recent Heretic II re-release would be all complete I'd expect. And Shogo you would know included all the files. For free its fine. But once you charge money you gotta step up your game.

The OS4 CD has had the OEM Lite driver for a while by arrangement. It's meant to be a basic driver just to get the OS installed. It's fine for the intended use but the license agreement ran out so all they left is an obsolete version on the CD that can't support above a HD7000 or something.

So the user must buy the full driver off AmiStore or AmigaKit and then assemble their own bootable OS4 CD. Or create a recovery partition. This happened with OS4.1 which was cheaper than OS4.0 and you can see why.

What was meant to be OS4.2 ended up in OS4.1 like updated shell and some other things.

AmigaKit are already proofing their concept with the A600GS and ARM optimised graphics. Though its 68K based, this would be the bridge to their own System 54. Which is their plan to replace OS4 but needs OS4 components still. Included in Enhancer.

But the free Enhancer, or Enhancer Core, doesn't include any Radeon drivers I'm aware of so users are still stuck!

@white

Basically, not much has changed. There is nothing to improve in your line that could improve the executability.

But there are other things you can test...the Amiga community has also adapted some software gems for Qemu/AmigaOs4.1 so that we can have some more fun with it.

And @smarkusg has also made his own ports which already work very well.

DGen (Sega Mega Drive) Emulator
Snes9x

Both are also available on Os4Depot in very recent versions. Otherwise here is another source where you can also find E-UAE in a customized version for the CPU G4.

https://github.com/smarkusg?tab=repositories

Bigger changes would only happen if Virtio drivers are written for (network/GPU/sound....) which could increase the performance significantly.

Since we are already off topic I might recommend to use the official Qemu thread.

https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/ ... &order=ASC&status=&mode=0

@balaton

Readme file you meant? CompositeTags() is a function in graphics.library. There is a patch meant for WinUAE: http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... sc/patchcompositetags.lha

PatchCompositeTags will not help with SDL1 (much). Most SDL1 apps were ported before compositing was added to AmigaOS 4 and before compositing support was added to SDL1 (~2015) and those apps are statically linked. In SDL1, compositing is used in special scenario where SDL_HWSURFACEs are used and when alpha-blending is enabled.

@balaton

It is a lost war. Unlucky amigaos developers stays in 90's where you could live selling your software. And don't understand that 90% of threads here on amigans are based on open source software. And without it most probably OS4 would be dead since years. Try to live with this mentality because most probably it will never change.
Not only as you said open sourcing stuff on OS4 will help new developers to understand how things works and maybe help to fix problems

@smarkusg

Thanks for the tips,
I restored qemu pegasos after a long time.
MPlayer works well.

I also updated to BB-0.7

I have to create the -fat partition again for exchanging files

This is the current command line I use:

qemu-system-ppc -M pegasos2 -cpu 750cxe -accel tcg -kernel /home/white0/Downloads/bboot-0.7/bboot -initrd /home/white0/Downloads/Kickstart.zip -m 2048 -serial stdio -device sm501 - drive if=none,id=hd,file=/home/white0/Scaricati/32gb.raw,format=raw -device ide-hd,drive=hd,bus=ide.1 -device rtl8139,netdev=mynet0 -netdev user ,id=mynet0 -vga none -drive if=none,id=hd1,file=/home/white0/Scaricati/coffin.raw,format=raw -device ide-hd,drive=hd1,bus=ide.1 -display gtk,zoom-to-fit=on -full-screen

but a few things have changed reading the various posts.
what changes could I make to the command line.
Thank you.

here the test I used MPlayer-GUI seems to work for not using command line.
So I use MUI-ASL again.


I still have to update qemu to version 9
is it better to update from the qemu site?
or there is the Balaton repository.
to which link?

Thank you.
https://youtu.be/5rGR5RXg3JE

@Hans
I said I don't mind if others don't support or believe in free software and have other views. I just wanted to make clear my point of view and explain why I won't do much with this problem. I think it's better to be clear about that than just saying nothing so you don't have to wait if I reply or not and can go ahead with this task. What I said is not against you personally so don't take it as that.

I think keeping things closed especially in such small community just hinders progress and leads to unnecessary fights over who owns what and who gets the crumbs. It may be better to do like other communities who are keeping their beloved platform alive together like Haiku for example. AmigaOS is already obsolete and not fit for daily use (e.g. lacking support for modern hardware, memory protection, security and SMP just to name a few) so there's not much commercial value there and there isn't much hope that the handful of people who can be payed to work on it will ever make it reach the level of modern systems (or if their work will be published at all as others are still fighting over who can publish it in the first place). Making AmigaOS modern and a viable alternative OS would only be possible by allowing contribution from passionate developers but if they are discouraged seeing this state there won't be much progress. It reminds me of the book title from David "From Vultures to Vampires", looks like for AmigaOS4 we're still watching the vultures tearing apart the remains of it. I'd like to see a modern AmigaOS but I don't think the current closed source way will lead to that in our lifetime. So those who in charge may consider if there's some better way. That's why I don't want to help to keep the status quo and rather advocate free software. Sorry if this offends some people, I don't want to attack anybody just discuss views and get people consider alternative ways.

Some people are payed to work on free software so closed source is not the only way to earn a living. Even if kas1e could pay me I could not do much as I don't have the AmigaOS kernel source. If you get payed and fix it that still won't help me as I likely won't get a fixed version so there isn't much motivation for me to do much with this.

This thread is now locked and moved. Please refrain from derailing threads on amigans.net into drama pieces.

@Capehill
That changelog says "Compositing requires PatchCompositeTags on WinUAE, for example." I don't know what that does or means but if it's patching some kernel routines to work without hardware compositing then maybe that would be a solution here as well? It's still strange why the amigaone kernel works while pegasos2 has problems but despiite the two machines being similar in hardware the pegasos2 kernel also lacks some IRQ init that the amigaone one does so there might be some differences between these kernels.

@kas1e

- People violating my license is bad
- people defending those actions and blame it on me are evil
- People who deliberately trying to damage me by spreading lies, talking about emotional instability, drama etc. Well, there's a special place in hell reserved for that special kind of evil. ( and I am not even religious)

I know that those who are willing should not suffer from those who mean to do harm.

I am not in it for the money. I just want to help the community in a honest way. But unfortunately there is a rot in the community has a certain culture that is far from my own.

I do not want to spend my time on such people anymore knowing that they will directly or indirectly benefit from it.

If those people confuse honesty with drama. So be it. The OS4 community is a cross section if society afteral.

@geennaam
I was about do drop writing in this topic for good, but just want to clarify: i do not understand what you trying to arciieve with this your last post ? Who those amoral and bad guys are ?

Me, walkero and few others are bad guys of the same league, because we say that your drama actions hurt them and its all can handled better if in first place you dont act like you act ?

I mean , we amoral, bad, and that sort of peoples because we find your actions strange ?

And Acube bad too, because they simple not read readme, while you will teach them now how world is working and no one should ever forget to read readmes for your drivers in fear you again will act like that and remove something else ?

Honestly, i were sure today you will remove something else from os4depot for any reassons.

And just a little question: do you think, that with all you super moral you have, and the way how you act with all this drama users should hope and wait your developing when they know now, that in any day when you will dislike anything else (not forgotten readme, but someone call you bad, or doing what you dislike or whatever else), you will again remove something or stop something ? I mean this no worry you when you call some of us as a bad guys ? All ok and fine ?

Look, we need developers, you are good one, that for sure. But emotional stability is must if one work on anything amiga like, or its all false hopes and a carrot for users which we have many before

@walkero

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Amen to this!
Very often people think "the other one" is a bad guy, just because he thinks differently.
Very often lack of communication leads to misundertanding and mistakes.

The more important part from my point of view is that nobody wanted to benefit nastily from geennaam work.

@walkero

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Again you are completely wrong and making false acquisitions. I do not have an NDA with anyone.

You knew that my software was being distributed as contribution to enhancer. If you have an NDA then you should have kept quiet. The fact that you choose to deliberately state exactly the opposite of the truth with no other intention then blame it on me and damage me in the process is showing your true colors. And they aren't pretty.

@K-L

Also completely wrong.
I approached Matthew with the question if my software could be part of Enhancer as contribution . Not the other way around. He asked me if I wanted to have my software beta tested. Therefore my software was distributed to beta tester and I was added to the beta list.
No secrecy, no hidden agreements. No money or transfer of ownership involved.

Why didn't I say so?. Because I have no control over the time line of enhancer. So I just said soon.

@all

I know this is difficult to accept because we have all been told so long by these same people who the bad guys are. But hopefully this opened some eyes here and there that the "Good guys", despite everything they do for the amigaos4 community, are not exactly saints.

@tekmageQuote:

I borrowed a similar type of adapter cable (ADA954 3.3V TTL serial) which should do the same, but I cannot get any data out with it. I connected it to the MCU debug connector like the one you used (pin1 - black, pin4 - white and pin5 - green).

The connection itself seems to work as there is no error message if I run "sudo screen /dev/ttyUSB0 38400" on terminal . There appears just a white blinking rectangular (prompt?) but trying to input and run commands like 'help' or 'v' does not show anything on the window.

Trying to use 'ttyUSB1' which you had in your example gives just an error: non existent.

I tested also with 'Cutecom' but no output from the MCU, either. Connection itself seems to be ok.

Any idea what is wrong...? Is there some jumper on the motherboard which should be opened/closed so that the debug connector would work?