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Re: Font install by installer/script

Posted on: 2007/10/3 7:50 #61

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@lazi

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Manually I should do the followings:
- Start TypeManager select the source and system fonts drawers then install the font

Yes.
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- To be shown properly I have to modify hinter attribute to no hinter in TypeManager

No hinter? IMHO most users will prefer the best available
hinter or the AutoHinter. A font which needs "No hinter"
to be shown properly has either broken hints or demonstrates
a bug in FreeType2...

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Could it be done by a script somehow?

No.
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That would be nasty if I have to explain these steps to the user during install.

Why should the user install the font(s)? Most applications
which need fonts that are not distributed with AmigaOS
come with the font(s) and eventually an install script.

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AFAIK TypeManager do not accept commandline parameters

I have a commandline-only tool without GUI which is useful
for converting bitmap fonts to Amiga format, it created
the Fixed, FixedBold and FixedItalic fonts. For non-bitmap
fonts its IMHO not worth the effort to try to save mouseclicks
because there are so few clicks needed.

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and doesn't have an arexx port.

Which would be overkill IMHO for a font installer.

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Where are that font attributes are stored?

Read Documentation/Fonts.doc on the OS4Final CD.
TypeManager basically just creates very small .otag
files in the FONTS: directory, those files contain
the attributes, when you dont want that the users have
to run TypeManager to create the files then distribute
prebuild .otag files (plus the 4byte .font files and the
binary source font files).

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TetiSoft

Re: SFS 1.276 and CF 2.0 GB

Posted on: 2007/10/2 9:29 #62

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@AmiDog

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I thought a CF card connected to the IDE-port would look
just like a HD from the hardware (and software) point of
view? Isn't that what the adapters are supposed to take
care of?

Never owned one. There exist two possibilities, either
the adaptor claims the card would be removable, then
it speaks the truth and the OS or filesystem may prefer
to handle the CF card like a removable medium and not like
a harddisk, or it claims its not removable, which would
be a big lie IMHO.

There exists a way to find it out, just start Media Toolbox
and look if it reports a non-removable harddisk or something else.

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TetiSoft

Re: SFS 1.276 and CF 2.0 GB

Posted on: 2007/10/1 18:18 #63

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@daxb

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Hmm... I thought CF-Cards can be used and will be detected as a normal harddrive.

They can IMHO be used like a normal removable medium, e.g.
like a MO medium or a ZIP disk or a CD-RAM or a SmartMedia
card.
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So removeable or not shouldn`t make a difference.

I've already written that it makes a difference.
Try to create two partitions on an USB stick with Windows,
then you see that even other OSes believe that removable
media are something different than a harddrive.

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As far as I know CF-Cards can also partitioning with
HDToolBox or HDInstTools. So writing a RDB should be
possible too.

Of course its possible to create a RIGID disk block
on a REMOVABLE medium with those tools, even with Media
Toolbox. This doesnt change the fact that SFS will refuse
to handle such partitions. Use a MountList with LowCyl=0.

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TetiSoft

Re: OS4 for Classic released in 4 weeks time?

Posted on: 2007/10/1 18:06 #64

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@nubechecorre

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Installing os4 on amiga 1200 + Mediator + PPC gives to the
amiga 1200 the possibilty to use the all the drivers for
graphic card and pci card that now i can use under amiga os
4.0 on my micro or there are restrictions due to the
mediator ?

The Mediator does not support DMA to main memory ergo you
cant use all PCI drivers which require DMA, e.g. eth3com.device,
uhci.usbhcd, lsi53c8xx.device and most soundcard drivers
wont work. Voodoo and Permedia2 PCI gfx boards should work,
the Radeon boards dont work ATM AFAIR.

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TetiSoft

Re: HELP Need to run DosBox or BOCHS

Posted on: 2007/9/26 15:55 #65

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@MamePPCA1

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How much slow is BOCHS on an Amiga One 800 Mhz in number per cent statistics comparing to a real PC?

Its of course magnitudes faster than the only existing
"real PC" which had an Intel 8086 (or was it 8088) CPU.
Sorry, could not resist.

On a x86 CPU you can in theory run a PC OS on the hardware
and on BOCHS and you'll get a percentage number. On a PPC
CPU you cant run the PC OS on the hardware ergo you have
nothing for comparison to get a reasonable percentage number.

Oh, BTW:
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I have OS 4.0 update 4 and I see it is better than Final for DosBox emulation.

Could you tell some details? Whats wrong with OS4Final plus
July Update?

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TetiSoft

Re: Arexx: how to use date() with a string?

Posted on: 2007/9/24 16:18 #66

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@Gazelle

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You're aware that the ARexx Date("B") does not return the correct value? The describtion says days since January 1, 0001 but it actually returns the days since January 1, 0000.

It looks like the bug is still present, date('b','20070101', 's') should be 732676 and not 733042.

rexxsyslib 45.7 (24.9.2007)

- The Date() function with option B returned the number of days since
0000-01-01 instead of 0001-01-01 as documented, fixed. Thanks to
Bernd Gollesch for the report.

- Late Y2K fix: The Date() function with option C always returned the
number of days since 1900-01-01, for dates since 2000-01-01 it now
returns the number of days in the current century as documented.

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TetiSoft

Re: getting rid of the rust

Posted on: 2007/9/21 13:58 #67

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@Jack

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How do I access an usb cd/dvd writer?

Inserting a CD/DVD?
When T:USB.log doesnt contain an error message about
an unsupported command language, try some CD/DVD burning
software with usbdisk.device. Dont know if it works.

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TetiSoft

Re: resize and move window from anywhere

Posted on: 2007/9/21 13:54 #68

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@Jack

RTFM Documentation/Intuition/NewControls on the OS4Final CD.

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TetiSoft

Re: Monitor problem

Posted on: 2007/9/20 12:27 #69

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@TSK

When your monitor has an on-screen menu, you can check
if it displays the sync polarity. You can specify -hsync
and/or -vsync in the monitor driver tooltypes, some monitors
are too dumb to detect a screenmode change when the syncs
dont change and the frequencies are similar. Eventually
the monitor driver is unable to switch one or both sync
signals, some cant do that because some gfx board features
(hardware sprite etc) would not work otherwise.

When your monitor has an "Auto" button, pressing it may
force resyncing the display.

When your monitor has a manual which lists supported
screenmodes and their sync values, use this table.

When everything fails, your last chance is to give
each screenmode a different frequency. When this doesnt
work too, try a better monitor or delete all non-native
resolutions (due to interpolation they normally look ugly
anyway) which your monitor seems to be unable to distinguish
from the native resolution.

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TetiSoft

Re: SFS 1.276 and CF 2.0 GB

Posted on: 2007/9/17 17:29 #70

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@SZAMAN

My first guess is that you tried to use a RIGID disk block
on a REMOVABLE medium. AFAIK SFS doesnt support that.
Use a mountlist instead which uses the whole medium like
a big floppy (LowCyl = 0).

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TetiSoft

Re: New ATI drivers?

Posted on: 2007/9/15 20:33 #71

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@orgin

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Something is wrong in the news item then:

Features of PPCBoot (as implemented by Hyperion):

* x86 BIOS emulator capable of initialising and using
nearly all PCI and AGP graphic cards based on the
chipsets of ATI, nVidia, 3DFX, S3, 3Dlabs (Permedia),
Trident etc.

Whats wrong with that? U-Boot can use (nearly) any gfx
board AFAIK, it is e.g. able to create DVI output on
a Radeon and I remember that somebody did send me a
gfx board where OS4 had no driver, U-Boot could happily
use it and OS4 was even clever enough to display the
"No P96 driver for this board" message on the gfx board
(in text mode as initialized by U-Boot) before giving up.

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TetiSoft

Re: OS4 vs OS3.9

Posted on: 2007/9/8 10:01 #72

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@xeron

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OS3.9 can see all FFS and SFS partitions, but not FFS2.

Read Documentation/kernel/bootloader.txt.
When it could not see it, it would be impossible to boot OS4
from an FFS2 partition...

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TetiSoft

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/5 14:39 #73

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@Jurassicc

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OS4 has vunerabilities that 3.X didn't and we should be prepared to deal with malware.

On a classic you had to open the case to get at the roms. It can be done with a system friendly script under OS4, even unprotecting said write-protected files.

You try to construct a "new" weak point of OS4 but this was
already present in every previous version of AmigaOS.
Malware could simply call SetFunction() or patch L:Shell-Seg
or L:Disk-Validator or DEVS:AmigaOS ROM Update or DEVS:Kickstart.
Now it can also patch/modify/replace SYS:Kickstart. IMHO
this is no new stage of vulnerability.

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Malware or the user would not be able to delete, modify essential system files, allow to write to rdb or remove the slb or alter filesystems.

This was always possible and is still possible and IMHO
it will be possible in future for years, and as already
written, when your paranoia is great enough then do either
boot from a write protected medium or use another OS or
make backups.

One of the basic AmigaOS principles is "The user knows
what he does, trust the user and all applications he is
starting". When you dont trust yourself, dont start AmigaOS.

And BTW IMHO its a failure to trust any other OS that it
may be able to protect the user from malware. AFAIK there
exists no OS which cant be exploited. So why on earth
should AmigaOS which is one of the last OSes which doesnt
try what is impossible anyway now start trying to do the
impossible? We would only ask for trouble by getting the
attraction of malware coders as soon as we would would
claim AmigaOS would be secure...

Boot from a write protected medium. That is simple.
And AmigaOS is one of the few OSes which can actually do that.
When you are unable to write protect your hard disk, use
the Lock command. But be careful, it may have been hacked.
Or use the fs_plugin_crypt module. May be hacked too.

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TetiSoft

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/5 8:16 #74

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@Jurassicc

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Will anything be done to automatically, without user
intervention, protect kickstart modules / startup-sequences
etc. Perhaps at the DOS level against malware.

You are allowed to write-protect files.

When you think thats not enough, you are allowed to boot
from write-protected media.

When you want to protect kickstart modules in memory,
OS4 already write protects the code and read-only data/bss
sections of them.

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TetiSoft

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/5 8:07 #75

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@samwel

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Yes, better/larger USB support would indeed be wanted.
I think this is tetisofts part.

I worked on USB just because the expert developers in this
area didnt have enough time and I wanted to get some bugs fixed.
I dont have the feeling to be responsible for the USB stack.
In fact I have no (completely stable) working USB hardware

My main goal was to allow OS4 to boot from USB, it does it
now, like it can boot from floppy or RESRAD: or BOOTRAD:.

The part where I really feel responsible for is the font system.

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TetiSoft

Re: QEMU in PPC emulation mode

Posted on: 2007/8/3 15:25 #76

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@Jack

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And other stuff as OS4 ability to run without the bridges used in A1 are to be solved too. Means more work on OS4 imho.

Lets' see what OS4 guys say about it.

OS4 doesnt require an A1, it still runs on CSPPC and BPPC.
However, only the A1 version was pubished yet, and AFAIK
nobody has a license to run it outside of his A1.

There exist rumours that KMOS (or was it ITEC?) paid
Hyperion for a port of OS4 to an IBM PDA. You could ask
KMOS or IBM if they sell you a copy, maybe it doesnt require
UBoot. There exist other rumours that IBM closed its PDA
department so you may have problems to get the required
hardware. Some sort of Deja-Vu? Well, that happens when
you rely on small companies to build OS4 hardware.
Suggestions for bigger and better companies are welcome

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TetiSoft

Re: Writing to a1serial.device from a script

Posted on: 2007/7/28 14:27 #77

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@tonyw

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In a script you can write to SER:. The speed and baud rate
are set up by program control, I don't know how to do it
from a script.

The speed and baud rate of SER: and SER1: are specified
in their mountlists in Devs:DOSDrivers/.

Its also possible to override that in a script,
see Documentation/port-handler.doc on the OS4Final CD.

Echo >SER1:9600/8N1 "Hello second serial port"

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TetiSoft

Re: ... when ?

Posted on: 2007/7/27 20:28 #78

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@keisangi

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so, basicaly you're saying :
memory protection, multiuser,security,unicode and a stable
system isn't realistic on amigaos

Read again what I wrote. AmigaOS already has memory
protection, multiuser support (Envoy), it supports
Unicode since 1992 IIRC and here it seems to be stable
enough for my personal needs.

You were asking for FULL memory protection, FULL multiuser
support, FULL security, FULL Unicode support and an
UNCRASHABLE system. And with "FULL" you obviously meant
"Like in Linux". This is unrealistic for every OS.
Such an OS doesnt exist. I suggest you keep using Linux
and ask the Linux developers how to run a broken old 68k
Amiga binary in full memory protection without crashing
either the program or the OS.

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and my alternative are either:

- to try to implement all the missing stuff myself
(i'm basicaly a user of the system .. maybe a potential client)

Be assured that this was not meant as an invitation to
try to do something you cant do. You would waste your time.

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- or to simply give up on amiga and start using something
else cause it's not gonna happen on amigaos..
otherwise it wouldn't be amigaos anymore..

Yes. Keep using Linux.

When you want to bring the Amiga forward, then think
about some nice feature which could be added to this
and that application or the OS, politely ask for that,
buy some applications and shareware, write some "Well done"
messages to developers etc. This would be constructive
and could eventually help.

What you are doing is to try to tell the AmigaOS developers
that this and that Linux feature is missing and that they
have wasted their time trying to keep backwards compatibility.
Do you think we didnt know that those features were missing?
Do you think we would start to code "sandboxes" and "virtual
machines" because some Linux user is able to write such
a phrase here and he thinks he needs something like that?

Your behaviour is IMHO not constructive. I'm wasting my
time with answering you. Of course it can happen that a
user wants something which a developer can not implement
immediately. But the average user stops demanding something
when he got explained once why its not possible yet.

You are the type of user that keeps demanding something
after he got the fifth explanation, that doesnt understand
the explanations, that even complains about the explanations
as if they were excuses. Why should I try to explain you
something the next time? Why should I even think about
helping you?

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man that doesn't look great on your side you sure you
don't want to follow your own advice too and giveup amiga ?
cause that looks really painful ;)

Anybody who can do it better than me is invited
to do it better. As already written, IMHO there exist
lots of developers which could do it better. But until
now it doesnt look as if we had too much developers,
do you really think it would be a good idea when I'd leave?

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TetiSoft

Re: ... when ?

Posted on: 2007/7/27 19:30 #79

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@abalaban

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Sometimes ago using OS3.0 and muFS I was able to setup
something like this, by the use of multiassigns (for S:
ENVARC: etc.) and some startup scripts I managed to have
a system which could be used by my two brothers and me
each having its own system configuration, without the fear
to delete/overwrite someone else things.

That's all what I would like to have: filesystem with
user/group rights enabling *some sort of* security and
system support for configuration by user (could be easily
achieved by adding the a specific HOME: autoassign by user
which could contain a C, S, ENV-Archive drawers
automatically added respectively to C:, S: and ENV-ARC:).

IMHO there exist two versions of multiuser support,
one where you dont trust the other users and you want
to have full security mechanism which protect you from
both the other users and the outside world, and one
where you trust everybody which is able to touch your mouse
and keyboard.

The last time I checked the advertisements in a computer
magazine, it was impossible to buy a harddisk with less
storage space than about 100GB. So IMHO you dont have
to establish lots of tricky assigns to allow multiple
persons to use the same harddisk and basic software
while keeping some data somehow private. I'd simply
create a separate OS4 boot partition for each user,
the typical harddisk should allow dozends of them,
some partitions for shared data, and when you like
even some encrypted partitions with password protection
for private data. Have a look at
Documentation/FileSystem/fs_plugin_encrypt.doc on the
OS4Final CD. No, didnt test it, I'm the only user here
and my machine trusts me and I'm trusting my family...

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TetiSoft

Re: ... when ?

Posted on: 2007/7/27 16:11 #80

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@keisangi

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i use linux for everything.. i just happen to have bought that amigaone .. but it's gathering dust atm. since i can't use it for most of my needs:
- browse web
- developing (java)
- no japanese support (i live in japan)

After some dozends of posts you finally write what
you are really missing. Not full memory protection,
not full security, no sandbox. Fine.

Other OSes come with a web browser. AmigaOS comes without.
Or lets say it different, sometimes it comes with an OEM
version but its not a core part of the OS and the OS
developers dont feel responsible for writing a web browser.
You are a fan of opensource web browsers and want to develop
for OS4? Then forget Java, learn C and help developing AWeb.

You want Java instead? Then port it. IMHO I have the right
to demand that, I've created the first public domain
C compiler for AmigaOS which could completely compile
itself (just because I wanted to learn C), I just did it
instead of complaining, please do the same.

Complaining about bugs is constructive behaviour
(when its a usable bug report).

Complaining about small missing features is also
constructive behaviour (when the requested feature
makes sense and is not too complicated to add).

Complaining about missing applications or large missing
features, repeatedly, is IMHO destructive behaviour
when its known in advance that everybody already knows
whats missing and the following discussion will just
waste time.

Please demand the rock stable AmigaOS which cant be
crashed from the AROS team. Please demand the open source
AmigaOS from H&P or download the AROS sources. Please
demand a better web browser from the IBrowse team or
improve AWeb yourself. Please stop asking for an AmigaOS
which has all features of Linux integrated.
For Java, see above.

You want too much at once, yesterday, for free, even things
which are impossible, you complain when you dont get it,
you even dont accept and dont understand explanations why
something is not possible, please try to get what you want
(when you decided what you want exactly) from the
developers of some other OS which has more (or more talented,
or both) developers, good luck.

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