So the reboot thing - you're just discovering the one downside of the RX series of card which maybe we forgot to mention (oops?)!. You can't warm boot them. It has to be a cold boot. Fortunately, there's a key combo that does a cold boot for you so while I initially didn't like the idea, in reality, it hasn't cause me a problem.

So if you use CTRL-Alt-Alt rather than Amiga-Amiga, you'll do a cold boot. The downside is obviously you have to sit through the animation every time.

Start off with that, I would think you wouldn't need the fake modes, you ought to be able to just save the monitor with the manual modes listed where you've added your 1440p, reboot and then you should be able to select it...

this will be nice. I not long ago ditched my 21 year old laser printer for a new model which has AirPrint support so with a bit of luck it should be golden.

Looking forward to it

@AmigaSociety

Well it certainly won't hurt. And if the case can take it...

@AmigaSociety

So, don't take the fact that my 5450 didn't work as none of them will work. The 5450 is listed as supported generally (under MOS) so it just seems to be bad luck that mine doesn't (the card works fine generally - it's now in my workbench PC).

I have every confidence it would have worked under linux on the X5K, but I have no desire to run linux on the machine. I simply don't see the point. I have a Mac Mini right next to it on the desk and access to plenty of far more powerful linux machines if I need it. The X5K is purely for things I can't run elsewhere - OS4 and I had rather hoped MOS.

I actually think the limit may be coming from the amount of memory on the second GPU, or the x4 slot. Not sure which it is but whenever I see success stories it's often with 256MB cards. I don't know if that's exclusively the case though so don't read too much into it. Obviously without support, I'm guessing

[EDIT] Maybe I spoke too soon on the benefits or not of the RX580. I just installed Astromenace and that could definitely use more than the 550. If I get time maybe I'll put the 580 in later and see what difference it makes. It's still a tough call unless you already have one as they're not exactly cheap. I already had one from a previous machine.

@AmigaSociety

Thanks for the info - sorry for the delayed response, I don't have notifications enabled. I really should sort that.

I have both RX580 (8GB) and R550 that I can use for my X5000 primary slot. Currently I'm on the 550. It seems plenty good enough and the 580 doesn't really gain me anything but just uses extra power.

The secondary card for MOS is a different matter entirely. I have two that are listed as compatible, an HD5450 and an R5 230. The 5450 doesn't work at all in the primary or the secondary slot. The R5 works in the primary slot but not in the x4 slot. I'm using a x4 -> x16 riser and have tried two types, neither makes any difference.

Sadly, there's no support on this. I posted to the MOS forum and there were a few responses initially but nothing of any use and then it filtered down the list of active topics and out of sight never to be seen again, so that's that. I'm not prepared to just keep throwing money at it until something works, but it would have been nice to replace the Powerbook laptop as that this is horrible to use.

What graphics card do you have? And what resolution was that running at? It seemed to only be running at about 10fps. Looked really good apart from that though.

I’m not really sure if anyone paid attention when I said that pi5 is currently no good for this because the gpio access is managed by the RP1 chip and is therefore too slow. As of now, pistorm is stuck at Pi4 without much prospect of that changing. Pi 5 is a step forwards for general computing and a step backwards for hardware banging direct.

What a great little game! I will make a point to go back to itch.io and donate on this one.

As it stands now, new PI's aren't viable for projects such as Emu68 because the GPIO is now behind the RPI1 chip which adds too much latency to setup of reads and writes. It could change if the foundation takes a different approach with Pi 6, or even manages to open something up for Pi5 but as it stands now Pi5 (and it looks like CM5, although not confirmed at this point) isn't a viable option.

NB: I haven't paid attention for the last week or maybe two as I've been distracted with other projects so it's remotely possible someone has found a workaround in the last week or two, but that's how it was last I knew.

Whilst it wasn't me that asked on the PiStorm / Emu68 discord, I know the topic of PPC / OS4 was asked and the response was less than favourable, but I forget exactly the reasoning why. I might be wrong but I don't think it was simply just because they weren't interested, I think it was a case of not being feasible for some reason.

Even if it were viable now, I'm not sure it would be a great experience compared to a 1.something or 2.something Ghz PPC machine. But I guess it would at least have half decent graphics provided a driver was ported (again! - same old problem)

People are being a bit misleading here on the sound card. Unless it has been re-released in the last week or so (I've been too busy to check in for a while) there is no driver available for it. There was but the author has withdrawn it. They intend to re-release it at some point but as far as I know that hasn't happened yet.

I fell into this trap too and bought an Audigy FX on peoples recommendations that is still sat in the box awaiting the driver re-release. I forget what I bought to replace it but it was only about £15 on Amazon. I have people round imminently but can look it up this evening if I remember.

Now let's get all those beta bits out to us mere mortals

Trying to have a go at the demo and I get a Guru fault on start up. It works if I tell it to ignore DSI errors. Is this normal? I mean, it's not normal, it shouldn't do it but does it do it for everyone else?

[EDIT] I'd kind of still like to know if that's normal or not but having tried the demo, this isn't a game for me. I really, really don't have the patience for it !

@Hans

Well, I was one of those users that bought OS4 classic when it came out. Used it for a bit and soon realised that without the graphics, I couldn't explore demos, or games, or do anything much that I was interested in that I couldn't do on my physical classic machines (not a huge amount of point in running demos in emulation for me when I can run them natively on the machine next to me).

Had a virtio driver been available (and of course, Qemu - that wasn't OS4 capable back then either) that made the experience include some games, OS4 demos, etc., etc., then I'd have probably stuck with it. That wouldn't have been the end of it mind you, the volume of stuff like demos (as an example) just isn't there compared to classic, but I certainly wouldn't have thought "hmm, that's a bit crap" and shelved it.

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This 100%. While I was developing I pretty much had to wait for my X5K to arrive. There was simply no way to test without the 3D capable GPU. I was able to do "does it run at all" tests with QEMU and GPU passthrough emulation but it ran at a few fps.

The virtio drivers will be a godsend for development.

Will Qemu and virtio bring in a lot of fresh new users? Debatable, I guess the question really is how many OS4 classic licenses were sold because I would think that most of those users can't be happy with it and may want an upgrade. Obviously depends what they thought they were going to use it for before they found out it was slow.

OS4 is no more dead than I am!

One comment that I know I'm going to get hate for but I'll make it anyway, is that I don't really get where all these "Expensive hardware" comments are coming from. Yeah, sure, it's not a £500 system which would have been nice, but anyone that has ever built a gaming PC and has been realistic about it will know that PCs never are. For some reason, people seem to expect to put together a "modern" (ok, 10 year old, but still the latest) Amiga system capable of playing all the games and running all the software that OS4 has to offer for the price of some £500 Dell box that wouldn't be capable of running a decent game if it tried.

The only thing I do get is that the pricing of the A1222 has spiralled to the point it doesn't make sense. If you can afford that, then in my opinion, you should stretch just that bit further and get the 5040. But maybe you can't stretch that bit further so ok. And of course there will be people now that just can't stretch to it at all. That is indeed a shame.

Don't get me wrong, you still need to have the money, but I just don't get where all the hate comes from on the cost. I think it's unfounded.

On the topic of emulation (ok, 2 comments then), despite having just bought a 5040 system (which was only about £200 more than my very mid-to-low-end PC) I still welcome emulation and the virtIO drivers if it means I can sit using my MacBook Air in front of the log burner in the winter months working on stuff. The more the merrier!!

If this is out in time (and a physical release), it's going on my Xmas list. I loved Hexen and Heretic but I don't think I've ever played this one.

@Maijestro

Just to be clear here, I'm not for a second suggesting that it should not be paid software. People have to eat! All I'm saying is that if it's something I have to spend money on then it won't be an instant buy, just like there are other bits of OS4 software that I haven't bought.

Having said that, if it's supplied as part of Enhancer then I'm good anyway given Trevor's statement that the next version of Enhancer is a free update for existing users. I think it's more likely to be a standalone driver like the HD / RX drivers.

Anyway, this is all a little off-scope. I was just curious really where it was said that it would be included in the next enhancer and I think we've established that as no more than a guess at the moment.

@Maijestro

Where did you see that the driver will be on Enhancer 2.3? Was it printed on the slide? I couldn't see or read that very well.Trevor certainly didn't say the driver would be in enhancer.

Just curious if this will be another paid driver, or a freebie. Since I now own OS4 hardware it's certainly a nice to have during development and for a portable solution on my laptop but not necessarily an essential purchase for me if it's a paid option.

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