@Amigamancer

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Maybe the same developers that already make programs for OS4 ? Who do still develop only for 68k today ?

Sorry to answer late even if I have a high interest about USB drivers, I am currently busy preparing the release of PointRider :)

@VooDoo
In the past, I tried to write some webcam drivers on MorphOS and OS4, looking at libusb too. But it failed because isochronous mode was not supported.
Pencam uses bulk and a driver would be feasible. The problem is finding old hardware like it.

Else I also have a serial-USB link with pl2303 and another one with an unsupported chip. At work we have many things that would be tested too.

I own several webcams and only one can be used with bulk transfers. I could try to use it but the webcam is not well documented.

For my personnal needs, I have a scanner AGFA Snapscan e25 and I plan to buy a new printer. For my camera (Canon PowerShot A560), I use directly the SD card.

Maybe in 2008 we will see open projects about USB devices on Amiga ?

@LiveForIt

If I understand, you want to port / implement GDK to compile the original GTK with a native GDK. I am not an expert (even if I tried to understand how to wrap GTK cleanly) but :
- GTK does not only depend on GDK (but you know that because you are talking about Pango and Cairo interaction)
- Gadgets are managed by the GTK layer and I am not sure about the result : in my opinion it will be necessary to change some parts of GTK too

GTK is a hard but interesting topic. Maybe I will have a look on it again.

@acefnq

Hehe, the log was quite long and I tried to extract the precious information from it. This does not indicates where the error comes from : only the author can really find the bug and fix it.

But you're right, it is important to report bugs ! Even if a forum is not the most efficient IMHO, it points the problem that can't be ignored ! It is far better than no report at all !

So prepare to send me bug reports on the next release of PointRider

I am not at home but I will update Yam and could try videotext datatype (I totally ignore where to find videotext files).

@acefnq

It would be better to send a report to the author, indicating steps to reproduce the bug.

It seems to be a null pointer bug :

*7f6ffb68: 801d0000 lwz r0,0(r29)

with r29 equal to zero. The program tries to read a value at address zero.

@AmiKit

This video is great ! I saw it in live at the recent show Alchimie 7 It was a nice surprise and if this kind of videos were done for other Amiga products, I think it would be much easier to convince old user for example.

I don't know if I will use AmiKit very often but I got a copy. Great work, AmiKit !

@AmiKit

George Clooney !

It was a great party ! With surprises as you can see.

ACube was there on sunday with the board. And we saw OS4 running on a A4000. We also tried it of course. For an AmigaOne user, it is of course slower but OS4 is there !

MorphOS 2 was running on Efika. We saw the great paint program written by Stefkos, Blender in action with Yomgui (the author of the port), Mame and mplayer with Fab, Sputnik, ...
Yomgui also shew a new project : a Python wrapper to write easily MUI apps. Personaly, I had PointRider running with its new features.

The new USB2 card was running very fast in the Voxel's A4000.

There were conferences : Thomson MO5 in a FPGA, OSS port to Haiku, AmigaOS4 on classic, Amikit (hey!), ...

So much things to say about this great week-end ...

I am not an expert at all about filesystems but as a developer I can say that the sources seem to be clean and the project very well designed, with OS specific parts isolated.

It may be easy to port for someone that know filesystems. Full and solid NTFS support would be really helpful.

@cygnusEd

Really great job ! I tested the previous version and it was a good surprise, now it can bring us many missing apps.

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@acefnq
Thank you again I have now better results on PointRider (image and text rendering) and the next release will be much nicer.

@MamePPCA1

You could find advices on this page.

To swap to full screen mode, the special keys page tellls that you have to use alt-enter.

About speed, I looked at the sources yesterday and I suppose we can find many things to optimize.

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If I had a driver to develop I don't know which would be the first step and where to find information. It would be nice to give more about driver writing under OS4 in the next SDK.

Why not an example for a simple PCI card ?

That's nice to read technical info here and ideas for the future !

rachy wrote a great answer, well explained. Of course, a system can work without memory protection but that would be ridiculous to make AmigaOS without memory protection. The MMU is here hopefully and we can (we must) use it.

And from a developer point of view, it helps to track bugs. Without MP, as rachy told, a buggy program can cause a crash later. How could we find the real cause in a such situation ?

Resource tracking allows the system to know each resources are allocated by each program (memory, files, devices, ...) so if the program crashs, the system can kill it closing all resources properly.

@Elwood

This is what I thought: if some people can do games with Hollywood, maybe it's possible to do GUI apps too. And this, without the need to learn C, Reaction...
Just a thought.
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It is certainly possible (Hollywood is really powerful !) but if you want to write GUI, I think this is not the good choice (the same for RxMUI : great but not dedicated to GUI programming).

A nicer way would be to have GUI modules to program easily in Python or Ruby.

@Elwood

In the PointRider package, I can find the tool MeltingPoint that creates an Hollywood projects (generates a script and extracts images) from a PPS file. You certainly have some simple PowerPoint files to convert and see the scripts.

This article was published in January, before people know troubles between AInc and Hyperion. Of course PS3 could run OS4 or MorphOS ... this does not means it can happen with the current situation.

@Elwood

And what about the sg2's server AmiVNC on Aminet ?

I did not tried it. But I suppose it works and I can see sources are included in the archive.

I tried Epistula several times but I have to say what I need is a better support as a MSN client. Epistula is already great !

I hope users will go to PPC because there are not only Epistula but many programs that only exist on PPC or are much more usable. And this will continue. Each time a great program is available for PPC, 68k users ask for a 68k version. I won't be possible until the end of time ...

Great work, Seg !

All : Go to the project page and look at the video ! That's impressive !

Hum ... no concrete action following in this thread. So it makes it useless

It is important to see wish lists even if we know that we all want a decent browser and a modern wordprocessor with printing features.
But if we want to make these lists useful, we need to give answers to each point with realism : what is possible ? who will do the work ? what is missing ?

Web browser : IBrowse is much better than what I was expecting but it does not support CSS. A chance would be Sputnik, improved and ported. Else a port of Firefox but it requires many missing depencies.

Word processor : Open Office seems to be unrealistic. AbiWord with X11 seems to be a good start waiting for a port with our native GUI. What is the status of Papyrus ? It must be debugged but great work has been done ! Where are sources ?
Else, there is the new upcoming Cinnamon Writer.

MySQL : Sure it would be great ! And I don't see what is missing to port it. Need someone to do it.

Java : First step, we need a JVM. There are many open source projects. JAmiga (http://www.jamiga.org) needs support ! Second step : integration into our browser (see above)

Scripting languages : Rebol could be nice but Ruby and Python are there !

E-UAE enhanced : Let's support it, it will be improved ! There are certainly many optimizations to do.

Games : SDL is well supported but we need OpenGL !

From my point of view, as an additionnal wish list :
- a much better shell ... hopefully that KingCON is better than nothing else I couldn't develop on OS4
- a enhanced installer
- a tool to update software with packages and dependencies
- Workbench with richer file requesters

Here is a summary of general wishes :
- Remote Client to Amiga (i.e. Allow me to use my Amiga remotely from Elsewhere in the world)
- MacOSX emulator from OS4
- Microphone Support for Internet Audio streaming
- Lots of creativity software, music and paint programs.
- AMOS Pro
- SuperBase5
- PPC ARexx
- Any ports of commercial RPGs from the x86 side.
- A MMORPG
- Skype
- Improved TuneNet with an Media Libary function, RealAudio, ...
- WarpUp Emulation
- Candy Factory 2
- ArtEffect
- Cinema4D
- IDE like StormC or other concept
- New games (Moonstone 2), games like UFO, Fallout2, ...
- AmiBlitz (native)
- Playstation 2 Emulator
- More X11 programs ( Gaim / Netscape / Mozilla / Firefox / Konqueror)
- More Printer drivers
- AmigaInput whit out bugs.
- MovieEditor, something like WildFire, with sound support, divx etc.
- Modplayer with AHI support (I use EaglePlayer on my A4k)