@AmiGubbe

Read this article. And the OS4 reviewed there is a very old version. OS4 is now faster (the 68k emulation for instance).

@Kreciu

In other words, so far, it?s only hearsay.

I?d like to warn people about it, but without independent confirmation...

@samwel

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Actually, it outperforms 68060/50MHz on 604/200MHz most of the time and 68040/40 every time.

So, if you have an expansion board with 68040/25MHz and any PPC processor, then the emulated software will be faster than the native 68k execution.

However, OS4 and the JIT emulation requires more memory than OS3.x, theoretically it can run with 32 MB (without JIT emulator), but I would suggest 128MB. (When swapping will be ready then less memory will be enough, but then it will be significantly slower. Oh well, you can't have everything, I guess.)

@Billsey

Independently in sense other source? No... but I called PayPal and I was talking about an hour... about that and they didn't tell me that they don't support. They were very sorry that I'm going to use PayPal only in VERY special situations or even cancel...

So, you know if someone is without fault... will tell that... they didn't tell...

I have a lot of friends which order this list (check the website carefully for this kind of info, and google it, there is sooooo many websites Christian who trust this guys...

You can always call PayPal and ask :), talk to them that you are confused about that.

Consider that Ebay, PayPal, Skype is the same... :(...

@xeron

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Read Documentation/kernel/bootloader.txt.
When it could not see it, it would be impossible to boot OS4
from an FFS2 partition...

@Kreciu

That does not answer my question. I am against abortion, too. But my question was ?Can you independently confirm what you have said about Paypal??

@jahc

Well I am new to Amiga boards..

Thanks for the advice
but i see you have chosen not to comment on either posting except to tell me nothing etc... except that you noticed my mistake

THANKS...

Joe...

@IOWASURFER

you dont have to paste the same message everywhere.

@LiveForIt

I cant see how that can happen..
That's a shame, did they have all three oscillators?

@IOWASURFER

The solution is for Amiga Inc and Hyperion to sort out the legal mess. Once that happens we will get new hardware and the OS to run on it.

(((((((((((((( Amiga's solution is an ea$Y one )))))))))
and it ain't nothing money cannot fix...

What made the Amiga great was stand alone machines boasting a different solution for users that don't do PC's or MACS Whats needed again is MONEY for a hardware system and a Software system uniquely genuine and Mostly built on the founding IDEAS...

Amiga was built on the goals that AMIGA ........
(( WAS JUST A BETTER CHOICE THAN THE OTHER 2 )))
A 3rd alternative to give folks a choice...

OS 4.0 is spiffy but seems dead locked...
The Amiga one is a great attempt but failing in production...
The emulators are just that... great attempts to hack the real thing but empty and hollow...

What the Amiga needs to do is come out kicking #### and not taking names...
That and a (((billionaire financiers)) to buy up AMIGA INC & Hyperion's and the other dawgs who are sitting on Amiga's ASS.... SETS....moving at the speed of slowwwwww.... doing nothing very fast... and then combine the 2 divisions like commodore had at one time back into one united company...

Can this pipe dream happen I ask...

AGAIN TAINT NOTHING MONEY CANT FIX :(

Can I borrow a couple billion should be enough to pay all the folks
off who are being sticks in the mud and get these doggies rolling again!!!
and build a small streamlined factory of engineers and developers to
bring PC's to their knees and those red hatters take notice..

:)

By the way where I am at now they dont allow me to use or have long cords or sharp
objects so I am dictating this all to the guards...

@AmiGubbe

Workbench on my A1 is currently using 168.2MB and that includes various third party software including web browsers, media playesrs and utilities.

@joerg


Hello,

thx for your help. The new Version works fine.

Bye...

Black Hawk

Hello All!

Since I was informed that I can ask here about linux... I'm asking :).

I tried to install Suse 10.4, Debian 4 (no lack CD after loading kernel not detected :(, LAN installation didn't work to...)

I tried Ubuntu and... I installed it :), but my Radeon was not detected... I couldn't set 1440x900 (after 3 days of fight I gave up...). I installed ATI drivers :), no lack. The Beryl newer work for me.

So as you see I'm really at the beginning of my "trip".

Any ideas? HELP!! :D.

My config:

Gigabyte GA G33M-DS2R, with e4300,
Radeon 1950xt,
Sound Blaster XFi Music
The rest is memory, and HDD and CD-RW :)

I think is to new ;).

@LiveForIt


I have a bunch of Amiga 500's
and a 2000 hd and I am looking hard for a killer 1200 system
I guess its more about what feels right to someone..

I personally feel like I am cheating Amiga by emulating it.. Like lifting/stealing software one can do it but do you feel
completely ok with the idea of it?


I know thats apples and oranges in comparison but still
Amiga is Amiga not IBM PC EMULATED AMIGA.. like riding a HONDA and calling yourself a HARLEY LOVER/BIKER...
Just not the same thing...

Joe...

@Belxjander

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Me too, but I?m having some problems testing that out.

Quote:

Me too, my Amiga kind bits and peaces right now, CPU in Italy, motherboard taken out of the cabinet.

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Sorry I?m not going to do that I simply can?t live whit out my AmigaOne.

@alanwall

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Way sell it? Way not enjoy it while it?s still working

PC?s are for Windows or Linux.

Amiga1200/Xbox/PS3 is for games, a pc does not replace the real thing, it?s just a substitute for not having new better hardware.

@AmiGubbe

OS4 on my AmigaOne uses about 150 MB. That does not include all the different languages available, so assume that total is only for a single language.

@mike

Some did just that and they replaced the Oscillator, the result was that clock frequency on RAM bus increased and computer started crashing all over the place.

@xeron

Makedir RAM:T
Assign T: RAM:T

IF $kickstart EQ 50
Execute S:OS4-STARTUP
ELSE
Execute S:OS39-STARTUP
ENDIF