On canon video camera the Videos are possible to be transferred only when the camera is connected to power source. Otherwise only pictures are visible on the camera flashRAM. Silly feature.

Perhaps SonyEricsson have some same kind of feature...

Nice mockup of Amiga netbook, (original photo)
Example of getting more sales channels:
"The Linkbook netbook will run on custom Ubuntu OS, LinkOS and will come at $25 with a two year contract for Vodafone subscribers in South Africa."

To my understanding wxwidgets would enable a lot of more SW to be ported to Amigas and to do more crossplatform SW on Amiga devices.

The work must continue, somehow.

I wonder how AOS4.1 is afforded to be sold for 100EUR to Peg2 or AmigaClassic but not for imagenary supportonappleHWsandboxthingy.

IMHO, it mainly would need someone other than Hyperion to do or pay for the compatibility thing (HAL etc). That someone might want some kind of payment for their work, though.

I rather see Hyperion supporting "in production" HW.

For some third party, go ahead and continue where Moana left out.
I'm sure it would mean more work than building support for any future HW, unless the HAL is done by someone who knows PPCMacs already, like the MOS team. Or perhaps it could be done via AOS4 sandbox, like ABox & QBox in MOS.
I'm pretty sure Hyperion+ACube+Amikit would not mind getting extra AOS4 SW sales, just like with the peg2 version.
(previously the R&D was stopped by AmigaInc, IIRC)


btw. just noticed that I have not booted up my MosMini for a year, lack of time is the reason.

@svenof9

There is no PPC chip with equally powerfull 3D.
But with 2D, the P1022 would be pretty ok. And when it's dualcore 1Ghz unit, it would be able to do some 3D by the CPU. And it can handle GPU connected via PCIe x4.

(P1022 should be able to deliver around 5000MIPS, on a picoITX design it might appeal to some opensorceHandheld and netbook builders, for laptop you would need to ad a mobile GPU)

btw: CommodorePi

I think it's not time for a architecture switch for AOS4.
ARM is not yet as powerfull as PPC.
x86 does not yet fit in tyny devices as well as PPC.

The imagineable $$$$$$ spent on ARM porting should rather be used to try to get similar but more powerfull PPC product for AOS4 low end.

about performance:
Rasberry Pi developers say it has the performance of P2@300Mhz.
Imagine that + the expansion limitations...
The HW sounds identical to xbox1 downclocked to 300Mhz..

Rasberry Pi HW is far too slow for AOS4 and has too little RAM + poor mass storage.

"That is, graphics capabilities are roughly equivalent to Xbox 1 level of performance. Overall real world performance is something like a 300MHz Pentium 2, only with much, much swankier graphics."

I have a SAM440ep 667Mhz and IMHO, any slower would be almost totally unusable as desktop.


There are at least two PPC chips from freescale that have GPU on the same chip.

MPC5121e ( most likely the Amiga Netbook is based on this, http://www.limefree.org/limebook.asp I saw it somewhere sold below 300EUR)
It's not far performance wise from the rasberry Pi, even though it's old chip. LimePC X1 is based on the same chip, but it does not come with display or keyboard, it has been sold at 99eur, IIRC. http://www.limefree.org/
Another is MPC6810D (IIRC), but it only has 2D onboard.

Some time ago Verisilicon demonstrated that it is able to put PPC460+GPU on the same die. But that product is not available to buy. Also there has been rumors about CC2200 chip that would be a 800Mhz PPC with 3D GPU.
So... PPC+GPU is possible, but for decent speed you need to pay someone (like Verisilicon) to do a custom chip run.

COOL!

Btw... I did not know you can stick xmos devkit to the connector at the edge of nemo!?!
AHhh, it's this one: http://www.xmos.com/products/development-kits/xtag-2-debug-adapter
It's for JTAG connection...

I assume that the test SW is not yet done on AOS4 version of xmos SDK, but it's loaded via some separate development PC & the JTAG connector.

It will be very interesting if Jens starts to develop PPC stuff one day. Superb talent!

http://www.vesalia.de/d_aca1231-42.htm

Well, it's new to me at least.

@samo79

I meant that is there a web editor in/for firefox/timberwolf.

There seems to be some web developer toolbar, as Rogue pointed out @ amiga.org.

Do we get web editor via Timberwolf?

And are there online web page builders?
ah... there is: a lot of them

It seems that there are other possibilities beside MPC5123 for a PPC netbook.
ChinaChip seems to be cooking a 800Mhz handheld gameconsole chip and Verisilicon demonstrated 2011 that it can produce netbook/pad suitable chip with PPC460 core (+integrated 3D core).

So... 800Mhz netbook is not impossible with PPC after all. But so far existing PPC netbook HW use the MPC5123 at 400Mhz. (IIRC, the AOS4 netbook was said to be a already existing HW)

On the other hand... did friedens say that they had a prototype of the netbook? It would hint that the netbook will be a new one.

UPDATE: Verisilicon PPC specs
"Power PC-based SoC for x-Pad and Media Tablet
Custom Silicon turn key service from specification.
CPU (PowerPC 460)
Android 2.3 and Flash Player 10.1.
1080P HD video playback, including WebM.
HD audio: DTS-HD Master Audio, Dolby TrueHD.
2D/3D GPU with OPENGL ES2.0 and OPEN VG1.1.
1080P HDMI output.
Wireless access: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, GPS, 3G.
Up to 1280x800 TFT panel with multi-touch."
I have no idea if it will ever be produced in volume.

double WOW!

Shame if your code is not put in good? use.
Perhaps you could open source it?

@wandered

WOW!!

What kind of FPS you have achieved?

Nice base work for some:
-scenery generator
-FPS game
-flight sim
-rally game
-3d scorced tanks / artilery duel
-3d worms
-screensaver
-etc,etc...

What's you plan with the SW?

To me it seems that people are using PCI Radeon 92xx cards on their SAm440ep miniITX amd that they work well, right?

Anyone had any success using two monitors simultamneously?
(one on the motherboard and other on the PCI card)

Anyone used Voodoo card to run the second display?

Noticed pretty high CPU load with low speed results on SAM440ep, when doing those tests in OWB. PPC440 is a telecommunication chip, so it should be able to handle TCI/IP stack without problems, so, browsers are the bottlenec?

(I get below 1Mbit test results with SAM, when the connection can handle 10-18Mbit when tested with x86 Linux system.)

On the other hand ... with the mentioned test file (amicygnix-sdk-lite.lha) I get 400k...900k bytes / second with IBrowse and 1200...1500k bytes with firefox on x86. So, with IB and real word test, the speed does not seem THAT bad, even though it could be a higher.

@olafs3

Yes, please!
AmigaOffice that comes as basic version with AOS4 extras, I would love that, so would possible future newbies.