Reth wrote:@smf
You mean this should have been installed too by the standard installation or it is a must from the Extras-Installation?

orgin wrote:
@Mason

And you sound like a obstinate graphics fanatic that want to keep a monopoly for his own personal reasons at all costs even if it means keeping an archaic system that at best belongs in the 1990's.

I'm sorry if that offends you, but what you just wrote read out just like that. Perhaps you'd like to rephrase?

Wanderer wrote:

From a programmers point of view, any effect that is pure post processing without manual interference should be left out. This are e.g. the guidelines for Android and iOS icons, so the OS can decide if a shine effect is added or not. On iOS, even the entire shape (the round corners) is procedural.

orgin wrote:
@Slash

There's nothing wrong with mason's work.

Holding back stuff like global settings for selected image effects and icon emblems just to satisfy his need for perfection however is as wrong as it can be.

Streamlining theming and reducing the work needed to create icon themes will benefit the platform. Holding back stuff like this will not.

djrikki wrote:
I love Mason's icons and don't find them 'Cheesy' at all.

In fact I wish it was possible to just press one button and Masonify ever single icon aka bringing about an easy way to change between 'icon sets'.

Wanderer wrote:
I do have great respect for your artwork, and I know the claim for perfection as a part of me is an artist as well.

But let me put it this way:

Take 10 random people from the street and show them 1) vs. 2).
probably 8 will not notice any difference. One will notice a difference and will find them equally beautiful. And one, maybe, will like 1) better if you explain at what detail he has to look at.

I am not saying that 2) is better than 1). Of course is 1) better, but is this

a) worth the time
b) worth 2x memory requirements and loading time
c) worth to hardcode the glow effect and loosing the posibility to configure

BTW, I like the glow effect. But 99% of the time icons are displayed in the normal state. So glow yes, but does it need to be that highly optimized?

BTW2: If you like perfection, I noticed that your glow effect does not take into account that the Shadow ist actually behind the glow. Look at the bottom of the icon, you see the shadow darkening the glow. My implementation in Imageconverter takes this into account give me the PNG with alpha channel, and I can show you what I mean.

Also, it would be nice if the glow "overglows", means goes over 100% when close to the icon outline and gets from yellow to white. The OS3.9 icons do that, IIRC.
Another nice feature in my implementation is that the glow also affects the inside of the outline a little bit. That adds a lot more lifelyness and "heat" to the glow, similar to what the what the glow on the arrow does in 1).

spotUP wrote:
Mason it would work just perfectly if the whole cheesy glow thing was dumped.

If the glow is to be kept, i'd make it less yellow and way more discrete.

As it is now it looks very unrealistic.
Why would a drawer glow anyway?

The icons looks nice apart from this imo.

Dump the glow and just change the color intensity a bit in stage two.

These are just my opinions, not meant to offend. You're doing a nice job on the icons!

orgin wrote:
@trixie

WAR WAR WAR WAR!

broadblues wrote:

@mason

I thouroughly agree with your sentiments re automated glow.

I really must put a require for images / icons together to send you for sketchblock sometime! (When you yourself have time to make some).

eliyahu wrote:
@Mason

Quote:

Creating a third party solution is one thing - the support for it is another. A new icon system is nothing without a solid baseline of icons. Just for the record: For the next release I have prepared 800 + new icons for all kind of 3rd party programs.

Many nice and interesting ideas where brought up recently, but what I really miss is at least the attempt to think them through until the end and weight the impact on other components of the system at all.

your work is a very big factor in my using AOS4. the icons are gorgeous, consistent, and well-executed. i like the current icon system and would hope any major changes would be thought through very diligently by you and others responsible for the look-and-feel of the OS.

-- eliyahu

Actually the current icons in AmigaOS 4.1 mantain their border, this is mostly visible when they are overlapped, I wondering if it will be possible to make them really transparent also when they will be overlapped in order to "hide" this not so cool effect

by Raziel on 2013/8/6 14:56:44
Thanks for the insight, i do believe though, that people will come up with a third party solution and yet another icon format to gain just that (hacks probably, but you can't just tell the people to stop, now can you?)

Why would we want to waste time and energy to polish the bells when there are so much more whistles to create?

Please share a sneak peak to your new icon set, Mason...pliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiise