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Re: PTDS (formerly PED81C) - pseudo-native, no C2P chunky screens for AGA
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Posted on: Today 11:24
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Quite a regular 
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Everyone can now try the last demo on their Amigas: it's available for download at https://retream.itch.io/ptds. P.S. If you try it on a CRT, post pictures and let everybody enjoy the view, please!
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RETREAM - retro dreams for Amiga, Commodore 64 and PC
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Today 11:18
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Quite a regular
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@tao
M.2 to PCI not exists, because PCIe inside M.2 not compatible with PCI bus.
M.2 to PCIe should be free used with Mirari, becouse M.2 NVME here has PCIe x1 lane. I.e. such adapter is only change of connector type, no latency, no driver needed.
PCIe - 2x PCI adapter you mentioned has PCI-PCIe bridge onboard, i.e. there is always latency. You also need no driver for this.
But it should or should't work, you need to test it. It depends, if firmware recognize PCI cards behind the bridge.
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AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Today 10:27
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Just popping in 
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@sailorQuote:
Better idea is to ask AmigaOS developers about SiI 3132 support.
That would work, too. Do you know if its ATAPI functionality is stable? As I said above, I have the impression that most (?) PCIe SATA cards have poor ATAPI support. Most of the OS4 drivers are 10+ years old, aren't they? So the driver selection is overdue for a refresh. Quote: If you want to have traditional PCIe slot instead M.2 slot, you can use M.2 NVME to PCIe passive adapter, something like this. I have never seen anything like that! I don't suppose there's an M.2 to PCI adapter, too? When the time comes, if I can't find a usable PCIe card, something like this would also work https://www.amfeltec.com/products/pci-express-to-pci-adapter/so I could just use an old PCI card instead. (And then I'd add a SCSI card, too.) But as before, I am concerned about "driver" support.
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Re: Next Project: Serious Engine/Serious Sam
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Posted on: Today 10:22
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Not too shy to talk 
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What Are your configs? On x1000 it runs absolutely smooth.
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Re: Next Project: Serious Engine/Serious Sam
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Just popping in
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@TheMagicSN
Cool. Looking forward to see how it runs on my configs :)
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Re: AmigaOne XE-G4 resurrection
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Just popping in
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@AmigaOldie
Glad to see you changing your mind and also breathing new life into your setup :)
I really hope I'll be able to manage it getting audio and all other stuff I miss currently. I wish you Happy Rediscovery :)
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Re: AmigaOne XE-G4 resurrection
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Just popping in
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Okay, I was checking it and there is no chip in the socket on my board, so will have to use a PCI card instead.
Also will add a Pioneer DVD writer I have currently in my mA1, so I think these issues will be solved. I will take the time soon and will check if there is any soldered modifications / fixes are on the board...
thanks all the help :)
Oh yes, and going to get proper SDrams too ;) 256 MB is far from enough for this config :)
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Re: "What if" you have money to develop only one feature of AmigaOS?
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Amigans Defender 
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@Elwood Quote: MP wouldn't be necessary if people (coders) would be perfect but we say that perfection does not exist. It does not, indeed. And, even if you're super careful as a developer, the OS can play against you if there's a bug and nobody ever fixes it.
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The Rear Window blog AmigaOne X5000 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon RX 560 / ESI Juli@ / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition SAM440ep-flex @ 667MHz / 1GB RAM / Radeon 9250 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Quite a regular
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@taoQuote: tao wrote:
All my drives are still mechanical, so you made me look. M.2 is the form factor (can be notched three different ways) and can support either the traditional SATA protocol or NVMe, which is a sort of DMA for storage devices and utilizes PCIe directly without occupying a slot. NVMe can saturate up to 4 PCIe lanes, but in this case I'd expect each Mirari slot to get 1.
An M.2 to SATA adapter might be okay, but per some previous comments, I'd be concerned that it's going to need a driver somewhere. M.2 on Mirari with T2081 CPU, SATA protocol is not supported, this CPU has no SATA controllers. If you want to have traditional PCIe slot instead M.2 slot, you can use M.2 NVME to PCIe passive adapter, something like this.
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AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Today 6:29
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Quite a regular
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@taoQuote: tao wrote:Musing over the Mirari board some more, the T2081 variant doesn't include SATA ports, only two NVMe slots. Additional storage would require a separate card, BUT using ACube's Hardware Compatibility List (is there anything better?), the only supported chips appear to be PCI, not PCIe, and Mirari is PCIe-only.
What I'd really like is something like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Vantec-SATA-PATA-PCI-Combo/dp/B002PXFZ2S
Internal and external SATA plus a PATA connector for full backward compatibility. BUT I've read several places that PCIe SATA cards are really designed for hard drives, with poor ATAPI support, and to use an older PCI card instead. I'd likely be using this for optical drives exclusively.
What to do? Before I ping the Mirari developers, can anybody offer words of wisdom?
BTW, the Mirari USB3 functionality I'd asked about above comes via a dedicated chip.
And if anyone is unaware, the project has a blog that's updated regularly:
https://mirari.vitasys.nl/the-first-rebirth/ Better idea is to ask AmigaOS developers about SiI 3132 support. It is PCIe 2x SATA II adapter. Is already supported by MorphOS and Sam440ep, 440ep-flex and Sam460 U-Boot. Mirari and X5000 has U-Boot too, so Sii 3112 should be easily added on all this platforms.
Edited by sailor on 2025/9/18 6:56:28
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AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Today 5:24
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Home away from home 
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(NutsAboutAmiga)
Basilisk II for AmigaOS4
AmigaInputAnywhere
Excalibur
and other tools and apps.
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Today 0:31
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Just popping in
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@LiveForIt Quote: LiveForIt wrote:
I know of m.2 to SATA adapters, have not found a NVMe to SATA, ok I’m confused on Mirari_Schema_01-1 its NVNE, but printed on the motherboard its M.2 printed.. this hard drive sticks does not have same keying. And have complicity different transferee rates.
All my drives are still mechanical, so you made me look. M.2 is the form factor (can be notched three different ways) and can support either the traditional SATA protocol or NVMe, which is a sort of DMA for storage devices and utilizes PCIe directly without occupying a slot. NVMe can saturate up to 4 PCIe lanes, but in this case I'd expect each Mirari slot to get 1. An M.2 to SATA adapter might be okay, but per some previous comments, I'd be concerned that it's going to need a driver somewhere. Quote: LiveForIt wrote:
As for PATA, you can’t find CDROM in normal stores anymore with that, in my AmigaONE-XE I have a SATA CDROM, connected to a StarTech SATA to PATA adapter it works fine. Good to know, thanks. I've been using a PC laptop as my main computer for nearly 10 years and have enough old PATA optical drives that I'd still like the option of using them in a new tower. Would love my Amiga to be a "swiss army knife". :)
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Re: "What if" you have money to develop only one feature of AmigaOS?
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Posted on: Yesterday 21:52
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Just can't stay away 
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Oh, the program stack. It would be protected as you mention, in a system with MP I guess.
@kas1e
MP wouldn't be necessary if people (coders) would be perfect but we say that perfection does not exist. We then need a solution not to waste our developers time.
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Re: How do I save text from AWNPipe texteditor gadget to a file?
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Posted on: Yesterday 20:55
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Quite a regular
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I am not a programmer by profession and I do not have whatever programming books you guys use for programming Amiga applications. I searched through whatever old OS4SDK documents that I could find and they were way beyond my level of comprehension.
In the end, I rediscovered an old friend named rexxtricks.library
which contains many functions, including some Clipboard functions.
* READCLIPBOARD() ... Read text from clipboard
This function safely removed the IFF info.
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My other choice is to use NotePad to edit and save the file.
In this case, I don't care about what is in the clipboard.
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By the way, I wrote two similar programs awhile ago.
One uses RxMUI and the other uses ProAction.
I wanted to see if I could duplicate these programs using AWNPipe.
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Cheers,
redfox
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Yesterday 20:21
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Home away from home
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@tao
As for PATA, you can’t find CDROM in normal stores anymore with that, in my AmigaONE-XE I have a SATA CDROM, connected to a StarTech SATA to PATA adapter it works fine.
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(NutsAboutAmiga)
Basilisk II for AmigaOS4
AmigaInputAnywhere
Excalibur
and other tools and apps.
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Yesterday 20:12
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Home away from home
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@tao
I know of m.2 to SATA adapters, have not found a NVMe to SATA, ok I’m confused on Mirari_Schema_01-1 its NVNE, but printed on the motherboard its M.2 printed.. this hard drive sticks does not have same keying. And have complicity different transferee rates.
I hope they are not trying to over selling it, its annoying finding out you had both the wrong hard-drive, they are not free..
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(NutsAboutAmiga)
Basilisk II for AmigaOS4
AmigaInputAnywhere
Excalibur
and other tools and apps.
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Re: qemu amigaos 4.1 sudo without no audio
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Posted on: Yesterday 19:49
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Just can't stay away
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I remembered correctly. I swapped the GPU. The login problem on both monitors is gone. ACS is only enabled on the primary GPU. In fact, the IOMMU groups are no longer separate. Now I'm compiling: linux-vfio for Arch-Linux which has the ACS patches. To see if it's convenient. Otherwise, I can always go back with the backup. Too bad the motherboard supports ACS, but not fully. Let's see if I can manage it. 
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Just as a day well spent brings a happy sleep, so a life well used brings a happy death.
Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: Upcoming Mirari PPC motherboard
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Posted on: Yesterday 19:39
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Just popping in
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Musing over the Mirari board some more, the T2081 variant doesn't include SATA ports, only two NVMe slots. Additional storage would require a separate card, BUT using ACube's Hardware Compatibility List (is there anything better?), the only supported chips appear to be PCI, not PCIe, and Mirari is PCIe-only. What I'd really like is something like this: https://www.amazon.com/Vantec-SATA-PATA-PCI-Combo/dp/B002PXFZ2SInternal and external SATA plus a PATA connector for full backward compatibility. BUT I've read several places that PCIe SATA cards are really designed for hard drives, with poor ATAPI support, and to use an older PCI card instead. I'd likely be using this for optical drives exclusively. What to do? Before I ping the Mirari developers, can anybody offer words of wisdom? BTW, the Mirari USB3 functionality I'd asked about above comes via a dedicated chip. And if anyone is unaware, the project has a blog that's updated regularly: https://mirari.vitasys.nl/the-first-rebirth/
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Re: AmigaOne XE-G4 resurrection
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Posted on: Yesterday 17:20
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Quite a regular
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@AmigaOldieQuote: AmigaOldie wrote:
I never managed to get good results using an AGP card for video. I tried several different cards but usually fell back to a Radeon 7000 in one of the lower standard PCI slots, as that also seemed to make a difference. Radeon 7000 is not ideal. AGP is card are more powerful. The best is Radeon 9000 Pro, followed by Radeon 9000 ( also LE ) Next are 9200 ( also LE, not SE ) - this one is also PCI The above cards has 128bit memory bus, it is better. Here are with 64-bit bus: Radeon 9250 ( also PCI, SE is slower ) Radeon 9200 SE ( also PCI ) And to put graphics card on lower PCI slot is not good idea. First slot ( just next to AGP ) is 66 MHz, three bottom slots are only 33 MHz. But if you have hardware DMA-fix, 66 MHz slot not works. In such case I recommend use AGP card instead.
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AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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Re: AmigaOne XE-G4 resurrection
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Posted on: Yesterday 16:01
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Quite a regular
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@pjsQuote: pjs wrote:@all
It makes me wonder: is there any way we could get the uboot
updated for the XE machines?? If you have registered AmigaOS, there are latest official U-Boot version on Hyperion webpage. And if your XE is bricked, you have to find somebody who burn it into chip. But if you lost only U-Boot vars and U-Boot is not destroyed, you should see at least U-Boot console. In such case I recommend replace coin battery and fill u-Boot values by hand. From console you can also upgrade U-Boot.
Edited by sailor on 2025/9/17 17:21:49
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AmigaOS3: Amiga 1200
AmigaOS4: Micro A1-C, AmigaOne XE, Pegasos II, Sam440ep, Sam440ep-flex, AmigaOne X1000
MorphOS: Efika 5200b, Pegasos I, Pegasos II, Powerbook, Mac Mini, iMac, Powermac Quad
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