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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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@trixie

Yes, it would have helped.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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Chris wrote:

It's the single best new feature I've seen in AmigaOS since env-handler was integrated. This is exactly the innovative types of features we need to keep AmigaOS ahead of other OS in certain areas.


I dont see innovation here, it's more or less the same type of application history as found in numerous OSes (typicalled used for generating "recently launched apps" etc), and there's nothing Amiga about it.

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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This is not true. With the introduction of application.library some five years ago, apps registered with the REGAPP_SavePrefs tag can have their settings stored in ENV(ARC): automatically at exit time, ie. without the user hitting a Save Prefs button.


I see :(

I only have 4.0 that I rarely boot, all these "improvements" are for the worse in my view, obviously OS4.x is not for me. :(

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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@xenic

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xenic wrote:

I keep my system partition write-protected


How do programs store their settings when they need to write to ENVARC: and your system partition cannot be written to?


This is only supposed to happen when you hit the "save" button, what has changed?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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Nevertheless, I understand it's your machine and you
can cripple it anyway you see fit.


He did install the update, didn't he?

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 update 2 usability requests
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@xenic

Why not let envarc:appdir be a softlink to t: or whatever... NIL: would be fine with me, I find the entire concept is totally retarted, something I'd expect to find on aminet as the result of some whack idea someone wanted to test out, not something that suddenly is mandatory in an update to a minor release of the OS.

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Re: ASL requester improvement
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@trixie

The ASL requester is very efficient, I dont see the point in any more buttons, and I dont see the point in moving any of them elsewhere - it serves no purpose.

MorphOS has something that probably is supposedly "modern", but I find it messy, inefficient to use and annoying over time.

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I much more prefer the simpler, faster, less cluttered filerequester of ASL, with big easy to hit "Volumes" and "Parent" instead of these, especially from a noob's POV, meaningless tiny buttons (or whatever they are) at the top of the window.

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Re: ASL requester improvement
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@trixie

Ideaology is the argument, consistancy matters.

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Re: ASL requester improvement
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@trixie

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In other words, the fact that we Amigans do certain things a certain way does not necessarily mean that we do it the right (= intuitive) way. As the developments in other OSes show, users' approach to computer interfaces has changed, while AmigaOS has not. Certain UI techniques and metaphors simply show their age.


Nonsense - the "Amiga way" is what keeps this platform alive, change it and the only reasons left to stick with Amiga are gone.

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As for Daedalus' comment: there is really no need for clutter if the requester is designed properly. By the way, have you noticed that in the current ASL filerequester, the buttons "Volumes" and "Parent" are in line with "OK" and "Cancel" buttons, contrary to the logic of proper GUI design? The buttons refer to different types of function so they should be neither grouped together nor put in the same place.


Again - utter nonsense - it is perfectly in line with how *amiga* requesters work.

Geh, it really ticks me off when I see comments like the above.

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Re: Amiga T-Shirts?
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@Daedalus

I always wanted this shirt

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Re: OWB better than FireFox!
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@Murakami

Still some bits left till rendering is perfect, but wow - it's come a long way!

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Re: Ken's Icons 2009!
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the future might be 64x64 and up


The future is vector defined icons (typically SVG), as Dave Haynie foresaw it about a decade ago. Many systems already have this. Oh and they will also truly be animated, not just two frames

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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I really dont grasp this discussion.

ENV: is for _system wide_ global variables.

You dont _have_ to use global variables, local variables also work fine.

Multiuser... I dont know what Hans means with multiuser. Remote shell logins? Graphical logins akin to rdp or xdmcp? Segmentation of security levels for different programs? What? In any case, the good old ENV: as system wide holder of system variables is needed, you cant have ENV: handled on a per user basis, as then there would be no place for system wide variables to go.

The multiuser question brings up so many new problems that would have to be taken care of anyways, it's kind of pointless to even bring it up in this discussion. These days it makes more sense to have OS4 run on virtualized machines anyways, so that each user can get his/her own system to play with. Funny bit is that I can in principle already do this with OS3.9 using Amithlon, UAE, Amiga Forever, and AROS. MorphOS and OS4 are still left out of virtualization party (along with OSX, allthough I do wonder how long Apple will sit on the fence and pretend they can commercially afford to not offer OSX for virtualized environments)

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Re: Graphics Corruption & Crashes - Sam440ep-flex, 1024 MB RAM
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What do the glitches look like? Screenshots?

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Re: Doesn't Seem to be Any Programing Languages for AOS4 for the Average Person
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@thread

Wow - 8 pages and no mention of Rebol?
(nor CanDo... hehehe)

As for the original problem, I can somewhat relate to it - back in the days I could easily animate funny stuff with DPaint, add sound and present them with SCALA or whatever. These days I barely manage to draw a simple sqaure in most painting programs, since they've all evolved into monstrous ?berfeatured beasts that only people who've been "growing up" with them can use. Never mind animation, then there's either Flash (yikes!) or full semiprofessional 3D modelling - and very little in between. One of the reasons lots of people like Apple's machines is that they come with a set of simple to use programs (iLife etc.) that almost any idiot can use to be creative.

This thread is really not about programming, it's about lack of creativity programs, allthough I'm quite sure Hollywood is what Atheist wants.

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Re: Unicode support in future os4 updates?
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@TetiSoft

Yes, norwegian ??? and russian абвг at once.

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Re: Unicode support in future os4 updates?
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@TetiSoft

My IRC client defaults to latin0 (or whatever I set as default charset), but recognises utf8 as well when it sees it. Ofcourse it can be tricked, but I've never seen that happen unintentionally.

And yes, the need for mixing old charsets is there, I frequently mix latin0 and cyrillic for example, writing both russian and norwegian at once. "8bit-apps" and codeset translation is not very usefull since you're not able to, for example, transcode utf8 to both latin0 and koi8-r at once.

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Re: Diropus Magellan OS4
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@klesterjr

What, you never missed support for big drives, partitions and files?

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