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Re: Timberwolf RC1 available
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Posted on: 2012/7/20 11:54
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ChrisH wrote:
I was finally able to import my FF bookmarks. Not sure why it wouldn't work before. Maybe it disliked me running MUI-OWB while I waited?
There is, to the best of my knowledge, and incompatibility between MUI-OWB and Timberwolf concerning fontconfig.
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Re: Timberwolf RC1 available
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Posted on: 2012/7/16 11:51
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redfox wrote:
RANDOM in Storage (not mounted and not running)
? It is supposed to be mounted.
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Re: Timberwolf RC1 available
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Posted on: 2012/7/14 17:37
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If you are having trouble, please make sure to delete the old installation, including the user profile, and retry. An old database that is not correctly initialized may interfere, especially if the back button doesn't work.
Note that there is no way this update can be more unstable than the last one. The last beta had much more fundamental changes.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 4 available
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Posted on: 2012/7/1 14:24
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doraemon wrote:
Does not run in OS4.1 classic in 4000D with 128mb of ram and Zorram.
Seems to be low memory problems.
The las version was able to boot.
I need to test in the 1200 that has 256mb of ram. Im the Peg2 runs pretty decent
I have serious doubts that this will work. Even if you get it to start up, it will be slow and it will probably not be able to do a lot before it shuts down.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/29 15:33
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Chris wrote:
@tfrieden / @rogue
Is it possible to get hold of the Spidermonkey includes you used, so I can use/link to libmozjs.so?
Sorry I overlooked this post... What kind of includes do you need? I don't think there had been any changes in those, but I'll look it up. Drop me an e-mail to remind me, or I'll likely forget :)
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/29 13:22
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ChrisH wrote:
@rogue Quote:Everything gets looked at eventually. Any issue in particular that you have in mind here? If this is about the GUI element updating, I *think* it has been fixed in the meantime.
Yes, it was GUI elements not updating, which is currently shown as NOT fixed:
http://bugs.os4depot.net/?function=viewissue&issueid=742
Right, this specific bug I think depends on the history function which for some reason doesn't work. I might take a look at it today if I get the time (unless Thom already fixed it earlier). I agree this bug should be fixed.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/29 13:19
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AmigaBlitter wrote:
@rogue
Will the latest cairo library be used?
Version 1.12 of cairo is more fast and have more function.
The new pixman library has been improved too.
Thank you
Right now it's an older version, I think 1.10.something. Performance wasn't a focus so far, so we like to change as little as possible. I'd like to see libpixman's altivec optimizations enabled as well, but so far, nothing in that direction has been done. Definitely going to have a look at Cairo 1.12, since it not only has performance improvements, it also makes some changes in the internal pipeline, which might help getting hardware acceleration back in. Stability and feature completeness are the focus right now though.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/29 13:15
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BillE wrote:
That should be a minimum requirement for any Amiga application.
But it isn't an Amiga application. It's a port. See also my other reply. EDIT: AREXX-Interface, proper workbench startup handling, and other AmigaOS-specific features are definitely planned, as is the update to later versions of the Firefox trunk, but the first version will be a port, nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/29 13:13
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samo79 wrote:
- Menu aren't inside the program like Windows/Linux but they are accessible on top (standard menu in MacOS but also on AmigaOS of course)
As I pointed out (or tried to), the first release will be a straight out port. What can be done beyond that is something that we need to decide. Windows has the orange "Firefox" button and menus hidden by default. We have thought about the same thing, hiding the menus by default and having a normal AmigaOS menu for the functions you usually get via the Firefox button. The biggest issue are inlined menu images and the nesting depth, which might or might not pose a problem. Quote: - The vertical scrollbar at the right are embedded like any other OSX "native" program, instead current Timberwolf's scrollbar (under AmigaOS4) is showed inside the window and not as a part of it ... it look like an owner Firefox widget instead ..
That's because it uses Firefox widgets. Straight port only. The widgets need to be CSS styleable, so you cannot just replace them with AmigaOS widgets. Some of them work, but right now, as I said before, stability and a straight port are the focus. Cosmetic changes are secondary, and will come after release.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/28 14:34
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samo79 wrote:
But you maybe know that the real hardest part with the Firefox port (after the port in itself of course) still the user interface adaptation and the user interaction in general, don't you ?
While the user interface stuff in Firefox was an initial hurdle, I wouldn't put it as the hardest part of the port. The hardest part is finding out what is called. The Mozilla platform is very modular, with components being used for almost everything. That means that a lot of calls are done indirectly via generated interfaces, and this generally means there is no real connection or obvious static call graph that can be used. Finding out what gets called when (or whether it is C++ code or Javascript) is the real challenge. In the end, with the transition to Cairo, user interface code boils down to "simple" hierarchical window/widget handling. All in all this comes down to about 10k lines of code for the user interface/widget stuff. But there are more subtle issues. For example, threading uses pthreads, but condition variables in pthreads used with more than one mutex yields "undefined behavior" according to the specification. Yet, the threading in NSPR assumes that it works. This is a hidden side effect that never even popped up until we started with the audio playback code.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/28 14:24
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ChrisH wrote:
djrikki wrote Quote:Also Clipboard support which is fantastic news
Clipboard support (ok and the occasional freezing) is the only thing preventing me from using Timberwolf now, so this is great news 
Clipboard support is in, but it works for Text only ATM. Which isn't really a big issue, but image clipping will be added later. Quote: It appears that stuff marked as "Minor" tends to not be fixed (which is fair enough), but unfortunately I wrongly marked one of my reports as Minor although I subsequently decided it was actually important :( so I hope "Minor" reports also get read fully.
Everything gets looked at eventually. Any issue in particular that you have in mind here? If this is about the GUI element updating, I *think* it has been fixed in the meantime. There where some refresh problems that have been tackled. I'll verify.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/28 14:16
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Quote: Never had this problem, but it seems to point at an issue with FontConfig. You may need to rebuild the font-config cache. I know there is an issue with OWB-MUI, the fontconfig clashes with Timberwolf's for some reason. Try to rebuild the cache, and see if that fixes the problem. Quote: - A more "native" GUI still essential and maybe this is the biggest part to do, a not easy job i think Not likely to happen I'm afraid. The GUI is the same on all platforms, the only thing that could be done would be to have a theme that more closely resembles AmigaOS/Reaction. Not going to be Thom or me, though :) Quote: - Program still really really slow on my Sam440 so i can't use it as i want, so when i start it i start it only for general testing.) Not likely to change until after the final release. The first thing is stability, and a straight port of the codebase. Optimizations come later. Hardware acceleration would make it necessary to implement a completely new layer manager from scratch. We'll revisit this issue after the final release; either we'll wait for OpenGL to be available in AmigaOS 4.2, or we'll reimplement the layer manager using compositing. Either way, this will not happen for the first release version. I'm aware it is a bit slow on the SAM, it's perfectly usable on the X1000 though.
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Re: Approach of HTML5 on AmigaOne
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Posted on: 2012/6/20 15:05
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yssing wrote:
Maybe you can help me and try this tiny game Ive made for html5.
http://www.yssing.org/html5/
I just want to know how many browsers that are able to run it.
Works on Timberwolf, although the current public version lacks sound.
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Re: Approach of HTML5 on AmigaOne
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Posted on: 2012/6/20 14:47
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RNS-AMiGA-Club wrote:
Thanks for reply. My another question: Why OS4 dev are porting FireFox (one of latest version) instead of speeding up the existing browser: OWB or port some older browser like Netscape Navigator? OWB is working rather slow on my loaned Sam440ep.
Latest FireFox is very big and computer resource consuming application. Why are they porting such application instead of speeding up existing or port older version, which was designed for lesser systems?
Beg your pardon, but you propose to port a closed-source program instead of an open-source modernized version? As to why go for Firefox: I invite you to try this. - Start Firefox on any computer. - Go to "Add-Ons". - Search for "AdBlock", "WOT", "Stylish", "All-in-One-Gestures" or any other set of addons that are available for Firefox (and therefore also work in Timberwolf). Or Web Developer Tools. Or whatever else you need in terms of Addons. Firefox is a modern browser, and the scope goes beyond mere web browsing.
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Re: Timberwolf beta 3 available
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Posted on: 2012/6/20 13:15
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Phantom wrote:
Too much walking dead... 
Timberwolf is very much alive, as you will soon see :)
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Re: Timberwolf!!!!
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Posted on: 2012/2/28 12:51
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ChrisH wrote:
Does Timberwolf store any files in EnvArc: ? That would be one explanation.
No, everything is stored in CurrentUser: Maybe your fontconfig config file changed? It seems it would be a generally good idea to write our own font backend for Cairo. There seem to be too many different versions of fontconfig floating around with various projects.
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Re: Tips for Timberwolf Beta
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Posted on: 2012/2/22 12:07
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If it crashes on startup, make sure you have enough stack space.
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Re: Timberwolf!!!!
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Posted on: 2012/2/17 14:36
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Joeled wrote:
@tfrieden
Can we expect hardware accelerated stuff in 2-3 months?
Can't give you any timelines really, this all depends on available time.
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Re: Timberwolf!!!!
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Posted on: 2012/2/17 14:35
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hotrod wrote:
Is the easteregg "about:timberwolf"?
Close, but no cigar. Look carefully ;)
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Re: Timberwolf!!!!
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Posted on: 2012/2/17 11:34
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Vulture wrote:
@tfrieden + rogue
Is there a chance that at some point in the future, the tenfourfox jit js engine would be implemented with some effort or isn't it as trivial as I think it is?
Maybe, but I wouldn't hold my breath really. Right now there are more pressing issues.
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