@ShInKurO

We have aslo:

* Yet another desk
* Scalos

@abalaban

What I can deride the list in two group agree and disagree

The stuff I agree on:

OS:
- USB : USB2 support
- USB : webcams support (isochronous mode) and scanners
- Printing : improvement in the print system
- ReAction : classes improvement, higher level interface, ...
- Charsets, fonts : UTF-8 support
- Clock, PlayCD, Blanker modules : there are a bit outdated, aren't they ?
- PartionWizard : better SFS support
- NTFS

Workbench:
- A lister mode
- Possibility to iconify windows
- Icons : add 32bits and PNG support to IconEdit
- Shell : improvements a la KingCON, addition of tabs, log for each console, settings (background color, ...)

Hardware:
- USB : webcams support (isochronous mode) and scanners
- Bluetooth stack (file transfer, etc.)
- Firewire : for storage




The stuff I disagree on

- Datatypes : improvements in datatypes system (streaming, cross format saving, thumbnails, ...)

Maybe not nessery if programs supported the Netscape plugin API (IB2.4 API).

- Petunia : support of Classic Amiga custom chips

No point, classic software is to buggy and they will not work in none multitask mode anyway, you have EUAE for that kind of stuff.

- Audio : AHI recording

I think its supported.

- Network : IPv6 support in RoadShow

It not a requirement on any OS.

- Multiuser : minimal support for multi-user

Optional!

- GrimReaper : usable GDB that does not freeze the system one time of two when attaching a crashed process

Not whit out better memory protection, you can recover crash logs after warm reboot.

- fix refresh problem in WB scrollbars

I have not noticed any refresh problems!

- Find : too simplest, don't manage to search into every drawers

I use it every day and I have not notice any problem whit it.

- Multiview : add possibility to do a small diaporama, a small playlist, etc.

I think its fine as it is.

- integration of AmiUpdate into the system in order to update it, mode to install yet unstalled softwares

No thanks, me like control.

- Theme manager in the GUI preference

cool but who cares.

- Input : Handling of multimedia keys, joypads

already supported,

- File systems : FAT32

CrossDOS supports that already.
Easyer to use crossdos yes please!

- Samba, OpenSSH : It would be better to make a network handler then plugins for Samba, FTP, SFTP, NFS etc... Advantage of this is that with a good documentation and a sample plugin it's not required that OS4 devs write all plugins themselves.

We need network sharing but Samba is not the right one, SFTP based network sharing maybe.

- A system monitor : task lists and possibility to kill those that are crashed, preview CPU usage

You can't because of the current Intuition system in use, GUI gets stuck until major changes has been done, Grim does it anyway.

- PDF printer
?

* Workbench :
- Possibility to create link

links are for dummies!

- Multi-desktop handling (a la linux)

multi screen support maybe, multi desktop no thanks.

- a "thumbnailer" (a la eastern) : I will even go further and propose (maybe via a preference) to do thumbnails of every file types having an appropriate datatype (yes I know I come back to the datatypes, but that is (was) a so innovative and clever concept that I find it scandalous that it was let apart for so long)...

Yes cool but slow, maybe as view option.

- Screenshot function

Yes in the utility drawer.

- Dockies : possibility to choose which dock the dockies will be added, a true transparency mode

Not whit out a new Intuition system first, too heavy in sw rendering mode!

- Dockies : a dock with only dockies in it to monitor activites of running applications (cpu meter, equalizers for an audio player, indication of received mail for the mailer, progress bar of the burning software, etc.)

if Program supported AmiDook then they will do, look at TuneNet mini dock thing, anyway I hate it because Icons move around if I have it enabled in TuneNet.

- Iconification in the dock itself

I think it better to iconinfy to menus like old MacOS9, icons on desktop or on toolbar is hard to get too.

- AISS yes I agree totally, it must be integrated in the OS, but it would be good to have a way of caching in order to prevent applications spend ages to launch...

I think AISS is slow, takes for every to load simple AISS application, way is that!

* Hardware :
- NVidia GFX-card support

They do not provide documentation so its not possible.

- better profit of gfx-cards (tv and dvi -out, compositing, overlay, opengl etc)

dvi-out is coming,
overlay is supported already.
MiniGL2.0 is coming.

- Bluetooth stack (file transfer, etc.)

Not so important.

- TV Tuner card support

We just need an updated SDK! we just need a DVI-in support, new Digital TV broadcast does not work whit old TV tuner cards anyway.

- Firewire : for storage

USB2.0 is more important.

- functional IDE ZIP drives support (not just in read-only mode)

Out dated, use USB sticks!

@Swoop

I think the bug is some where whit in:

Tracker::SocketReady()

the zero pointer is most likely forwarded to:

Console::Warning()

and zero pointer is then forwarded to lots of sub functions and ends up in vfprintf() in newlib.

Antique will need to have a look at it find and fix the problem, it might where well be that he has never seen the warning or just ignored the problem.

I know he is currently working on newer version of CTorrent.

@Rogue

I can beta test , but don't won the game yet...

It that game based on boldergate?

@orgin

Yes finely this idiotic trial most stop some time.

@AMike

I think DOSBox is interpreted emulation.

DOSBox was designed to run at speed of old DOS games, so maybe.

I hope some one writes an x86 to PPC JIT library it can be useful lots of things.

@RuDeE

Same program code runs on Classic as AmigaOne, so logically speaking there should be ONE SDK for all OS4 compatible hardware.

@Hans

The login page does not look correct in V7.0.5730.13 build of Internet explorer.

@orgin

Oh there exists a Open source BeOS project some where, but I think its dead

Quote:

Well this few lines says it all, open sourceing it did not help.

As for AmigaOS4, I don't think open sourceing it will help, the lack of license is what's keeping it back, there exits hardware out there like PS3, Sam440, Elfika, MacMini, but it impossible because of on going legal problems.

@Mikey_C

What F... lots of error in the stream, what up whit my Internet connection?

it was not like that 1 sec a go.

EDIT:

D I G I T A L L Y - I M P O R T E D - European Trance, Techno works fine..

@Mikey_C

support my IB2.4 plugin

<EMBED SRC="http://www.amigans.net:8000" AUTOSTART="true" HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="200" type="audio/mp3">

<EMBED SRC="http://www.amigans.net:8000" AUTOSTART="true" HEIGHT="100" WIDTH="200" type="audio/mp3" >

Download this:
http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... work/browser/np_audio.lha

@Rogue

What type of game?

@Ratte

Looks really nice, where professional assembled.

If you?re able to assemble and design a computer like that you most be able to design some thing more powerful things :D
Please design me a CELL computer whit 2Gbytes RAM, PCI slots and SATA controller :D

@joerg


Quote:

NetAmi will target AGA graphics, 8 bit stuff will run extremely fast hi resolutions, UAE can not do that.

But what is the point, this days we expect 32bit graphics or ultra fast 3D graphics.

@joerg

or JIT, and I belive oxypatcher, fixed some missing instructions by patching the exe at load time.

@fryguy

What does suck, is programs that crash your computer like AmiIRC.

@Atheist

>Eeerrrr, yeah? The PS3 you say?
>Can you program that immediately _unrestricted_ out-of-the-box?

Don't know I have not been looking for SDK, I most likely need windows computer or some thing I have no idea, but really does PS3 need my Cappy games anyway?

>Is Linux adept at using those 7 SPEs?

Well I'm not going to use it for Linux, and think PS3 system provides what I need anyway.

>How much of the 256 Megs is used up when you load up Linux?

I have no idea, and I do not care, all I can say is that PS3 games have impressive texture quality.

PS3 system provides Video, MP3 and games whit out Linux installed.

@Atheist

More like 500 units

We are not talking ultrafast game console her, just a fast AGA computer (2D graphics).

I'm better of buying a PS3, the PS3 thats a killer console for music,films and games

Don't get me wrong I love to see a NetAMI demonstrated.

@Rogue

Quote:

so the rumors are true, AmigaOS4 will run Windows Vista programs

@TiredOfLife

it shuld work on 233mhz 604e so yes if you use a tiny screenmodes it shuld work. same whit WipeOut2007

runs better in smaller screenmodes, in fact WipeOut2007 runs too fast in 320x256@90