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Re: AmiCygnix doesn't seem to do anything
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@RacerX

had a look at your logfile and now it's clear, that there is still something wrong with your path management.
LXPanel uses the "shexec" command to launch programs. Shexec itself tries to launch the abc-shell (sh) and can't find it.

Please try this:

Open an amiga shell an type "setenv SAVE SHEXEC_SHELL Cygnix:CygnixPPC/bin/sh" + return.
After this, shexec uses the absolute path to the sh command.

But: Even if this works, there is something wrong. Do you launch AmiCygnix by doubleclick on "Start_AmiCygnix.bat"?

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Re: AmiCygnix doesn't seem to do anything
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@RacerX

The AmiCygnix paths are missing, so there is something wrong with the AmiCygnix startup.

The startup script adds these paths and they must be available:

Cygnix:CygnixPPC/local/bin
Cygnix:CygnixPPC/bin
Cygnix:CygnixPPC/X11R6.3/bin

Please check your user-startup!

BTW: Did you use the installer scripts provided by the AmiCygnix packages?

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Re: AmiCygnix doesn't seem to do anything
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@RacerX

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RacerX wrote:
@cygnusEd

I didn't see a shell in AmiCygnix, and typing "nsgtk" in an Amiga shell gives 'command not found'.


AmiCygnix has no shell (or a terminal like xterm). I meant to use the normal amiga shell. If AmiCygnix is installed correctly, the command paths of AmiCygnix should be added to the systems paths. Is "Cygnix:s/Cygnix-Startup" executed in the user-startup? Or are the paths restored afterwards? What is the result, if you type "path" into an amiga shell?

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I did enter 'nsgtk' from the 'run' command in the menu in the lower left (like the start menu in windoze). I hit enter and the run window disappeared but nothing happened.


You could try to open an amiga shell, cd into "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/bin" and then launch "nsgtk". Please check, if the "nsgtk" binary is located in "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/bin". If not, something went wrong while the installation of the base/tools package.

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I tested every app I could click on. The only one that ran from the 'dock' was Leafpad.

Leafpad and xpdf ran from the 'start menu'

ob config, xcalc, xman, gpicview and Leafpad all ran from the RMB menu.


Very strange. All commands are executed with absolute paths. What does "Snoopy" say?

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Re: AmiCygnix doesn't seem to do anything
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@RacerX

Everything you need is included in the two packages. Also the abc-shell is included.

To locate the bug, it is always a good idea to launch the application from a shell. So if you want to launch NetSurf, open a shell and type "nsgtk" + return. Now you should see a possible error message.

If this works, you should launch "Snoopy", so you can see if there's something missing, while you want to launch an application through the desktop.

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@Mrodfr

Don't expect too much. I've heard, that AmiCygnix is much slower on SAM than on an AOne. For example I was told, that gimp is very slow. But maybe you're lucky. When I get my own SAM, I will know more.

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Re: Problem with SDK and AmiCygnix
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@xenic

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It works but ENVARC:PATH creates conflicts with other programs.


Ah - so you mean, that it would be better for you NOT to set ENVARC:PATH?

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When I get the time I may try moving my 68k GG compiler to the AmiCygnix directory tree to see if I can use it from there instead of the GG environment.


I also have installed GeekGadgets here besides AmiCygnix. It is placed in "Cygnix:GeekGadgets68k" like in my first prerelease versions.
But I had to rename the "GG:include" and "GG:lib" directory to be able to compile AmiCygnix programs. So I can use the programs not available for AmiCygix so far. I know, it's not a good solution, if you want to compile 68k programs.

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Maybe it was one of the applications and not AmiCygnix itself. I'll take another look and see if I can provide you with more details.


The problem appeared here caused by "idesk", the desktop manager. Sometimes idesk seems not to be killed, when AmiCygnix is stopped. If you relaunch AmiCygnix, idesk opens the timer.device all the time. I suggest to stop idesk by sending a break signal with "Scout" (or similar program) before starting AmiCygnix again.
But most times idesk works o.k.

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Re: Problem with SDK and AmiCygnix
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@xenic

I don't understand, why it didn't work for you to set ENVARC:PATH to your needs. The AmiCygnix startup will not touch it. The only disadvantage is, that all paths in the scripts called by abc-shell must be absolute. This should be the case in the scripts included in my packages.

The problem with shexec and SHEXEC_SHELL is a bug. I will fix this. Thanks!

It is no accident, that AmiCygnix looks like GeekGadgets. Both are unix like environments and the X11 code is based on a geekgadgets port. So don't be surprized .

The timer.device problem does not appear on my system. Which OS4 version do you use?

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@Snuffy

I guess you mean the SDLBasic editor, which is based on Scite

Yes, why not. But I will publish this later (Maybe I can add your latest version of DealOrNoDeal ?).
First there are other progs in the pipeline, which are nearly finished.

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Re: Problem with SDK and AmiCygnix
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@xenic and others

Thank you for your replies. I will answer later. I have serious hardware problems and I have to stay in bed because of a bronchitis.

CU

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@Mrodfr

Here is a list of third party plugins for Pidgin:

http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ThirdPartyPlugins

There is a video plugin, but it needs FlashPlayer 9.


@all

If you someone needs a special plugin, please post your whishes here.

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Re: Problem with SDK and AmiCygnix
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@nexus

It is not possible to run the abc-shell on the AmiCygnix desktop. You have to use it as usual in an amiga shell.
There is no xterm availabale for AmiCygnix.

The abc-shell is used by AmiCygnix to run commands in an unix shell environment.

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@emeck

I have xCHM here:

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But it has still some bugs, especially caused by my wxWidgets port. If there is enough interrest, I can finish the port (Will need some time though).

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Re: Problem with SDK and AmiCygnix
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The PATH variable is only set for the abc-shell, because the abc-shell doesn't know "Cygnix/PATH". A special AmiCygnix version would sove this problem.

But I tried to use absolute paths (starting with "/Cygnix") whereever I could. So it should not be a big problem to change the content of "PATH".

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@yoodoo2

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yoodoo2 wrote:
@cygnusEd

Inkscape?

Audacity?

Scribus?

Have no idea about the feasability of any of these, but they sure would be handy to me.


Tried already Inkscape, but no success. iIt needs a library I can't compile (http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/). No chance.

But Sodipodi is on the way. Also a nice vector image processor .

Audacity - why not. Needs wxWidgets, which is available for AmiCygnix, allthough it is not bugfree yet.

Scribus needs QT, right? QT is miles away, but I will try to compile it some day.

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@Mrodfr

I don't know gnome meeting, but the chat software "Pidgin" is in development. Will have a look at what gnome meeting requires and what it is able to do.


@Swoop

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How about a screen casting, or screen recording, program.


What do you mean with screen casting in relation to AmiCygnix?

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Re: apps wishlist for AmiCygnix
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@nexus

yes, I would like to have xterm too. The problem is, that I don't know how to write an usable unix terminal device or how to solve it in an other way.

maybe somebody could help...

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Re: Forum icon is missing...
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First: I'm feeling proud about the new forum -welcome! I hope it will be accepted by the AmiCygnix users .


@Jack

Maybe the panel icon made by Mason would be a good idea:

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??

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Re: New Amicygnix released
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@orgin

I think it would be a very good idea to create a forum for AmiCygnix. There are a lot of questions out there .
Is there something I have to do?

CygnusEd

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Re: Your Amigans Featured Donations for November 2008
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@Mikey_C

I like to nominate Andrea and Henning too. They really deserve it!


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Re: What has CygnusEd Been Up to?
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@Swoop

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Swoop wrote:
@cygnusEd
I am probably being a bit dumb here, but will this enable easier porting of Linux programs?
And, if so, is there any sort of SDK available or required?

Just my,probably unnesessary, thoughts.


AmiCygnix is a unix environment for OS4. It makes it indeed easier to port Linux programs. Currently libs for the toolkits GTK2, GTK1, wxWidgets, Motif, FLTK and Xt are available.

And yes, there will be a SDK published for those, who wants to port (compile) their own programs. Most programs will compile without or only with a few changes. But functions like fork()/pipe() are not available and must be replaced by own code.


Edited by cygnusEd on 2008/10/14 15:55:29
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