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Re: How do I keep Candi from running at bootup?
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Ideally we will look at using IPrefs in future to initiated animated backdrops. CANDI will be migrated into WBPattern

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@Walkero

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Noone attacked your products


There are pages and pages from the same small group people on this forum criticising the Enhancer Software. They pretend to talk for the majority of customers. I have spoken to some of these in shows: I have had suggestions that we should donate our code to Hyperion for the cause. Much the same as the OS3.2 team who donate their time for free so Hyperion can pay their legal expenses. Then the critical comments fly in when we try and make ends meet by selling the software to fund future development which benefits the community.

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Diverting the discussion on what Hyperion did not do in the previous years


You should be asking- what will Hyperion do in the present and the future to help this community? No threads here about that I notice. It is not a diversion to point out that consumers can make a buying decision to buy the Enhancer Software or wait for Hyperion's solution (Gallium 3D, Snap 2D video drivers etc).

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we are a free forum for everyone to say his/her opinion about what he thinks, as long as he/she follows the site rules. I hope you agree that that's how the forums should work.


Indeed, I agree, hence my replies.


@DDNI

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Yes, fair comment. There will always be disagreement about how things are packaged up.


Development is always a moving target. Components that are pencilled in for later released are sometimes brought forward to meet consumer demand. Other components are larger developments times than expected and push releases back. So best laid plans have to be changed.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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Because there is an elephant in the room, this doesn't mean we should not talk about the crocodile in the room as well.

But anyway, thanks for reminding us once more about the elephant. Is that because you want to distract the discussion from the crocodile?


No crocodiles here.

The Hyperion purists will never talk about the lack of "official" development news but instead are critical of the Enhancer Software. Gallium3D has been adopted as the "official/pure" 3D API in OS4 over the years. It is reportedly part of OS4.2 so anyone that doesn't like the idea of installing a third party graphics sub system from the Enhancer Software has the option to wait for the "real" solution to run their 2D/3D games and applications.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@Spectre660

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If you were to come up with a theoretical price for two
packages of just the drivers each bundled along RadeonSI
and RadeonRX lines I wonder if each package would cost more
than the combination of Enhancer 2.x, Radeon HD 5.x and Novbridge ?


It would at least equal the price. Plus just the drivers would be insufficient for use, customers will be asking to buy the Warp3D Nova Libraries, Video Acceleration, Power Management, Power Prefs, OpenGL ES 2 Library and other items. So they will need to buy the Enhancer Software anyway. Its a waste of time carving the package up. The Enhancer Software is moving to further migration of the components in V54 and becoming more cohesive as development progresses.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@DJBase

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I had to add, as X1000 user there are more important stuff I wish to have than MultEdit, MultiViewer, another dock, another video player, another audio player and so on.


Of course I understand, but we are building our own software base at the same time as enhancing our customers user experience. Remember we do not have access to the Editpad source code- so we created MultiEdit. Likewise no access to AmiDock, so replaced it with X-Dock. No access to Multiview so MultiViewer was developed as a very advanced alternative. The benefit of having control over your source code is that we are able to respond quickly to customer bug or feature requests. We can release when we want through Updater. Our customers like this because don't want to repeat the multiple year delays that OS4.1 has between bug fix updates.

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pushing development of a recent Webkit port...

WebKit would require a dedicated development team and continuous development cycle. Looking at the sales of RadeonHD drivers over the years, there are not enough users here willing to fund such a development.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@DJBase

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No, I don't need these ones, sorry.

Oh, hold on, I use AmiDVD as the original one doesn't work anymore. And Updater with its dependencies of course. Without I am unable to get updates. That's it. No calendar, no clock, no XDock, no Sensors API, no Power Management, no Power Prefs or whatever.


I can assure you Power Management and Prefs are absolutely needed- if you are not using these from the Enhancer Software your graphics card performance will be severely crippled. It is not just about graphics drivers, GPUs are far more advanced these days and stretch across the system in areas not known in the 1990's, early 2000's.

There are other very useful items included in the Enhancer Software which are critical to our customers: AmiDVD, DiskCache, Smart File System, X5000 Network driver, A1222 Network Driver, A1222 AHI Driver for example.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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And as I wrote elsewhere, wait because NovaBridge is coming. How is this going to be sold? It was announced a year ago that it is ready. What are their plans? My assumption is that it will come with V54 only, which was also announced last year. So people who want it will need to buy V54, whenever this is going to be completed and released. Is their plan to release V54 in 2022/2023/2024/2025? No one knows. So, if this takes a long time and AmigaKit runs out of money, I assume we will see NovaBridge coming into a separate package on its own.


NovaBridge, like Warp3D Nova V54 are parts of V54 and we developed them as such. Nova V54 was recently released as a free upgrade in the Enhancer Software 2.2- even though thousands of pounds were ploughed into it's development over the last year.

I have had several requests from users who want to use NovaBridge in advance of V54 being released. So accordingly we will publish Novabridge as a paid product- the money gained from it will be put back into development. There will be no discounts off future products- you can make the decision if you want to pay for early access or not.

The alternative for users is either wait for Hyperion to develop Snap 2D drivers, Gallium 3D and the other speculated items that formed OS4.2. I never see any threads here asking for progress updates about Hyperion's Gallium3D or Snap 2D drivers. Instead there is continued criticism from a small amount of vocal people directed towards our efforts. It is almost as if they are trying to distract from the obvious elephant in the room.

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Enhancer and the Radeon drivers are bought from A-Eon and AmigaKit


Thats true but the Enhancer Software is produced by a team effort of the Amiga Developer Team which Hans is an active core member. The products he develops are exclusive to this team and when he talks about them he is representing our team.

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Re: RadeonHD V.5 driver
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@Trixie

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so how come the driver developer himself needs to step in to explain things


He does not "step in": he is not an external disparate external developer. Hans is a long standing, core member of the same team that I am a part of: Amiga Developer Team. We are all representing the team we work hard for. The Enhancer Software is a project borne exclusively from this one team.


@DJBase
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Put RadeonHD, RadeonRX, VA and W3DNova in one RTG package.


What about Sensors API, Power Management, Power Prefs, Gadgets for the GUI etc? These are all needed to support the 2D/3D Graphics Sub System that is at the core of the Enhancer Software. Basically thats 85% of the Enhancer Software there.


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There are a lot of people who just bought it to get the needed libraries and don't use the rest anyway.


Well that maybe your point of view but it is not the consensus of opinion. The other 15% of the Enhancer Software comprises of very useful utilities which majority of users appreciate:

- Archiver
- MultiViewer
- MultiEdit
- X-Dock

Maybe you should give them a try and assess their worth?

One final thing... every time you see a Workbench screenshot posted on a forum by users, take a close look. I would be very suprised if you did not see X-Dock, Clock and Calendar running on their system from the Enhancer Software. If these utilities had no merit in the package and people exclusively bought it for the graphics sub system files, then they would not run remaining 15% of content included in the Enhancer Software.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@ktadd

I am very pleased you are enjoying the benefits of the Enhancer Software. The team works hard to produce the best software we can within our resources.

With respect to the crashes, please backup and delete the file Libs:VA/RadeonHD_drv_video.library

Try again and let me know if this solves the problem.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@khayoz

We indicated it would be coming soon as a download.

However there are a few tweaks which have been made in the last week to prepare it for digital download.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@imagodespira

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And we have these problems since the first Enhancer (if i remember right, the sound "enhancement" was the problem and Spencer did not run anymore).

Spencer works perfectly on my machine with all Enhancer Software components. We have not had any bug reports filed to indicate otherwise. Feel free to file report and we will look into it:

www.amiga.org/developer/bugreports

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For me, the Enhancer should only have Software and not GFX drivers. I would be happy to pay a GFX Suite like "Radiance" every year with some updates or a subscription to pay the development.


In your proposal where does the OpenGL ES 2.0 lib, Power Prefs, Power libraries, Sensor API, VA libraries, Warp3D Nova go- in the Enhancer Software or your proposed "Radiance" package? Many components in the Enhancer Software package would have to be reproduced in the proposed "Radiance" package and then you would have lots of customers complaining they are paying twice for components because they need to buy Enhancer Software too. This is why all these developments are converging towards a single future distribution. The components require each other as dependencies.

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I am happy with the drivers


This is a misunderstanding and simplification of the work that has been done in the Enhancer Software over the last six years. It contains some drivers but the array of libraries and components form a complete graphics sub system. Warp3D Nova, VA Library, Power Management, OpenGL ES Library are huge bodies of work- collectively much larger projects than the video driver work.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@eliyahu


A reminder that you can install as much or restrict what you install in the Enhancer Software 2.2- it is up to the user and down to personal preference. I have had correspondence with dozens of users who have installed everything and are very happy. Just take a look at users Workbench screenshots on here and other websites. You will most often see X-Dock, Clock and Calendar installed and running.

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Absolutely. I have yet to meet a single X5000 customer that really wants command replacements, replacements for DefIcons, replacements for Exchange, replacements for ..., etc.


Just some clarification before I explain yet again what I have written here several times before.

The commands are wholly paid for by AmigaKit Ltd and are written by an author that just loves creating commands. It is a good match for us. No resources (money or man power) are diverted from the Enhancer Software team to create or update the commands. Furthermore, the commands are a contribution from AmigaKit Ltd and they do not add any cost to the Enhancer Software retail price. It would be exactly the same cost as if they were not included. So consider them a bonus if you wish to install and use them.

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DefIcons, replacements for Exchange,

Deficons is not included in the Enhancer Software 2.2 or any other public release.

Exhanger was written 5 years ago and offers several enhancements over the basic Exchange utility. No notable investments in development time have been made since so I am not sure why this is being used as an example.

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We like what AOS4 already provides. What we want aren't replacements with barely any enhancements. We want the graphics stack.


Well, if you like what OS4.1 already provides, then this is more a request for Hyperion then, not A-EON, and shouldn't be directed to me. Wasn't the Snap 2D drivers and Gallium 3D on the Hyperion development roadmap? If so consider our work an interim solution whilst you wait for the official solution from their developers.

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barely any enhancements

Archiver, MultiViewer, MultiEdit, InfoWB, X-Dock, AK-Datatypes, Ringhio Notifications - please try these Enhancer Software components and let me know if there are marginal enhancements. I would suggest they are notable improvements on their counterparts.

Compare and contrast Toolbar Gadget vs Speedbar, Shared Image vs Bitmap IC, Tabbed Gadget vs ClickTab, ListViewer vs ListBrowser, Select vs Chooser GC etc. You will find there are large improvements in functionality. Yes, they are not as mature as the older classes, but we respond quickly to bug reports, update and release frequently.

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Replacements just so ownership is different, not so much.


The benefits of reimplmentation from scratch are:

- clean room implementation free from royalties, legal problems etc
- ability to update and release when we want at the pace we want. This enables us to be agile in response to customer bug reports and feature requests.
- define our own development roadmap in response to customer needs
- use in self-booting future projects

Please take into consideration that the next tranche of development work involves the complexity being raised and a greater diversion from the "pure" OS4.1 ISO. This is the price to pay for more features- you cannot have it both ways. In fact a self-booting Enhancer Software will be a necessity to gain these new features.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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Ahhh... we are all customers of these products. Are you missing something?


I was replying to Imagodespira's post, who is a commercial publisher and developer of software (not a general customer).

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Sometimes less is more. Those are two totally different apps, in my opinion. And if you compare them by size, memory consumption and speed, I am sure Multiview beats Multiviewer.


Maybe this viewpoint is relevant when using an older machine with limited resources such as Classics. However we are talking about the Enhancer Software being bundled with the X5000. A powerful machine with many resources. Customers expect to utilise some of that power at least. Otherwise what it the benefit of getting more powerful hardware?

Incidentally, MultiViewer uses GPU Shaders to render graphics through Warp3D Nova. That is going to be much faster than MultiView displaying the same graphics.

Archiver, MultiEdit, X-Dock, InfoWB are all examples of Enhancer Software components that give more than the stock OS4.1 install.


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Multiviewer is awesome and I was one of those who bought it separately the first days it came out before it was included in Enhancer 2.

The Multiviewer Version 1.x was sold separately. We are now a further five years on with development. MultiViewer Version 3.x is part of the Enhancer Software now. This latest version is now reliant on other important components of the Enhancer Software: Warp3D Nova, AK-Datatypes and the many advanced classes included in the Enhancer Software.


@DDNI

The AmigaDeveloper Team do not have the CFE source code. If it is returned, we can take a look at updating it.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@imagodespira

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.... in my world we would have ONE Radeon Driver Suite with all components for all graphic cards which gets a major paid update every year including drivers, va.library, Warp3D Nova etc.. all stuff around graphics + card.

And Extra Enhancer for Software suff...


Unfortunately end-users buying a brand new A-EON machine such as the X5000 want more than a basic OS. It is a larger need than just the graphics sub-system.

The Enhancer Software is bundled with the X5000 to give them much more modern and satisfying experience than the basic OS4.1 ISO can provide.

Put yourselves in a customers shoes. Imagine you had just bought a brand new X5000 and switched it on for the first time. Would you prefer to use MultiView or MultiViewer, Notepad or MultiEdit, Unarc or Archiver, AmiDock or X-Dock, RAWBInfo or InfoWB ? Would you be satisfied with a very old Ringhio or would you want the latest Ringhio included in the Enhancer Software?

In the absence of real OS4.1 progression (not just bug fixes), the Enhancer Software is giving new users the chance to have better system software bundled with their shiny new X5000.

The Enhancer Software's raison d'etre is to offer the best software experience we can to users with the resources available. We work with the cards we have been dealt.

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Re: Enhancer 2.2 Video Playback Problem
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@imagodespira

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I don´t understand this because we get va.library which software tries to use, but we can not use it because missing of the newest driver ;)


The concept and primary use of the Enhancer Software 2 is to be bundled with current A-EON hardware such as a the X5000 and future models. The Enhancer Software fills in the missing gaps with OS4.1 for customers who buy the X5000.

The RadeonHD is not a current graphics card sold in shops- it has been superceeded by the RadeonRX which is still available from shops. Therefore the latest RadeonRX driver is included on the Enhancer Software 2.2 to benefit the new X5000 users who receive it bundled with their machine. It is a necessity to have the RadeonRX driver in the Enhancer Software when a reseller is building a brand new X5000 with new RadeonRX card installed in the system.

Therefore RadeonHD is now considered a legacy graphics chipset. RadeonHD V5 driver costs many tens of thousands of Euros to develop so to recuperate some of these costs it needs to be sold separately. The money from sales gets reinvested into future software development.

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Re: Updater tool: latest releases and updates
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VA Library (Video Acceleration) is built on top of Warp3D Nova so will not work without Nova being installed

So the Enhancer Software V2 is a prerequisite

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Re: Updater tool: latest releases and updates
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@walkero

No discounts are possible, sorry - the reality of having a very small user base.

The costs of development have far exceeded the return from sales. That is with many of us working for free for literally thousands of man hours in the last year.

Enhancer Software 2.2 was a substantial development cost and that was given as a free upgrade to existing V2 users.

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Re: Updater tool: latest releases and updates
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@ktadd

RadeonHD v3 doesnt support Video Acceleration.

Originally, we had an internal version of RadeonHD v4 which worked with the VA Lib.

A lot more development was done then adding GART and many other fixes and the result is the RadeonHD V5 driver. This is on sale now as a retail box item and a digital download in the coming week:

https://amigakit.amiga.store/radeonhd-driver-version-p-1107.html

Note that RadeonHD V5 driver is now machine specific. It does not support soft resets on the majority of RadeonHD graphics cards.

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Re: Updater tool: latest releases and updates
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Today the following public releases have been made available to download on Updater utility:


AddDatatypes v54.10
AddBuffers v54.6
Assign v54.7
Copy v54.11
Dir v54.5
DT2ICO v54.2
Exchanger v54.4
InfoWB v54.11
List v54.15
MakeDir v54.11
SystemReboot v54.1
Version v54.15
ListViewer Gadget v54.25
Tabbed Gadget v54.455
RadeonRX Driver v2.11
RadeonHD_drv_video Library v1.11
RadeonRX_drv_video Library v1.11
VA Library v1.11

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Re: Enhancer Pack 2 is all you need!!
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@nubechecorre

A fresh OS4.1 install - it doesnt need the updates necessarily.

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