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Re: OWB or my machine?
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@samo79

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Same here, if you want that this bug will be fixed send a bug report + log here: http://bugs.os4depot.net/?function=viewissues&softwareid=1

I've gone to that site before, and I still can't figure out a way to report a bug there.

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OWB or my machine?
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Three times this morning I have gone to

http://www.mapmyrun.com/create_new

and in the Info & Tools window tried to switch from "mi." to "km." Each time I get a DSI error, which OWB refuses to "ignore," necessitating a reboot. Can anyone else make the switch from miles to kilometers?

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Re: USB devices that work with OS4.1 Update 1-**Problems with Update 2 **
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@328gts
Whether it was a 2600n or a 3600n, I wouldn't know whether it would work for sure without looking at the box it comes in, or finding info on line.

I googled "HP Color LaserJet 2600n" and checked this site: http://www.google.com/products/catalo ... &resnum=4&ved=0CDQQ8wIwAw
I don't know whether you can make that URL work, but you could get there the same way I did.

What I found out there by looking at "technical specifications" is that there is no reason to believe it would work. Nothing about it doing PostScript, which is the key thing for me. Worse yet, maybe, is the line

Printer Features Host-based

I take that to mean that everything is done from an .exe program installed on a PC, although I could most certainly be wrong.

It sounds very risky to me.

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Re: USB devices that work with OS4.1 Update 1-**Problems with Update 2 **
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@328gts

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@kilaueabart

oh please please tell me your HP Laserjet Colour is the 2600n !...if it is it will solve my USB printing problems with OS4.1...fingers crossed
oh & what driver are you using and what settings too


I remember looking at a ?600n, but I don't remember whether it was 2600 or 3600. Whichever, I suspect it wasn't PostScript enabled, which was my primary concern. Or else it was just black and white.

I remember having to find an appropriate PPD file to use it with PageStream (HP_Color_LaserJet_2605.ppd 69019bytes) but I don't remember exactly why. Everything else seems to be able to access it by virtue of Printer preferences, Printer device unit: Unit 0 (no name), Printer driver: PostScript, Port device: usbprinter.device, Port unit: 0.

I hope this is all you need.

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Re: USB devices that work with OS4.1 Update 1-**Problems with Update 2 **
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@328gts
Probably too much like everything else to be of much interest, but just in case, these so-far-unmentioned items work on my AmigaOne G4-XE with a powered Radio Shack hub.

Bushnell Onix 350 GPS

Digital Concepts SD/MMC Reader/Writer

(Grace USB recordable turntable is recognized by USB Inspector, but so far as I know, there is no OS4 driver for it.)

Hewlett Packard ScanJet 4300C (Workbench recognizes it, but the only software to run it that I know of is in AmiCygnix)

HP Color LaserJet (has worked through all the updates)

Iomega Zip 100

Magellan Explorist 500 GPS

Olympus Stylus 7010 camera

Panasonic DMC-LZ7 camera

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Re: Python forum and script area?
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I've messed with Python a wee bit. I use my biggest script so far (125 lines) regularly to add photo albums to my hike albums pages, and a small one to change "?," "`," etc. to the unicode for the proper symbols in Hawaiian place names in those albums.

But I really don't know how to use it--it's pulling teeth every time I start a project, and spending a lot of time in Python-Docs-2.5. If I don't want to hurt my brain, I use ARexx.

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Re: OWB 3.29
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@nbache

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@Raziel

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@kilaueabart

- Install them in fonts

- using System/TypeManager of course.

BTW, it's probably not necessary to install all three. CyberCJK contains only CJK characters, and CyberBase only non-CJK, while CyberBit is the combination of the two, AFAIU.


Thanks for two very valuable hints. Fonts: is pretty crowded without duplicating (I already have another CJ font file and one CJK font file in there).

And I bet I wouldn't have thought to use TypeManager. I'm pretty dumb for someone who's been computing since 1968...

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Re: OWB 3.29
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@Raziel

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@kilaueabart

- Put this "UNICODEFONT=Bitstream Cyberbit" (without the ") in OWB's tooltypes


Well, sure enough!

Previously I had

UNICODEFONT="fonts:Kochi Gothic.font"

in OWB Tooltypes, but obviously it didn't work. I wonder if I should have just had

UNICODEFONT="Kochi Gothic"?

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Re: OWB 3.29
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@joerg
I saw your reply about CJK scripts to Elwood belatedly today, but don't quite understand.

I went to http://www.mojikyo.org/ for an experiment and except for the hand-drawn characters, everything is "?" in little diamonds.

I just happened to have an older icudata.owb (8913240 bytes), so I replaced the new one, rebooted OS4.1, and mojikyo.org still comes out "?????"

The coding seems in fact to be UTF8; wasn't that supposed to work with either version of icudata.owb?

I've been using AmiCygnix (Sylpheed, NetSurf) when necessary to read CJK, but it would be great to be able to do some from OWB on Workbench proper!

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Re: Font questions
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@varmfskii

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@kilaueabart

If you look around enough it should have the Korean. As for entering Chinese you need some sort for IME (Input Method Editor) for any computer system. Every one I have ever dealt with is to some extent menu driven.


I installed my Korean faults in .../.fonts/ right after posting the above. A huge file during which I had to "Retry" Read/Write block errors three times!

I am unaware of an IME for the Amiga side (including AmiCygnix). Whenever I need to do much Japanese, I boot up Lenny. That used to be every day, but it's probably down to less than once a week now, thanks to AmiCygnix's programs at least allowing me to read CJK.

But I can write Chinese characters in Sylpheed by first writing them with AbiWord (easier than with Character Map, for some reason) and then copying and pasting.

Not much fun poking through several thousand characters--fortunately they are in order--, but about 12 years ago I wrote a sort of "pseudo-IME" on my A2K which allowed me to type in Japanese words and convert them to JIS code. I'm now thinking of rewriting that for Unicode.

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Re: Font questions
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@cygnusEd

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@kilaueabart

By default fonts in AmiCygnix are stored in:

Cygnix:CygnixPPC/share/fonts
Cygnix:CygnixPPC/local/share/fonts
Cygnix:Home/root/.fonts

Those are the "fonts" folders I had found.

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While installation the truetype fonts from "Sys:Fonts/_TrueType" are copied to "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/share/fonts", so these fonts (DejaVu and Vera) are also available. The "Mono" versions of these fonts have fixed width!

So that's what "Mono" means! I think I used to know that.

I could have used AbiWord after all.

But I consider this strange, in light of what you say about installation. Cygnix:CygnixPPC/share/fonts/truetype contains 40 files, including fonts.cache-1; 21 flavors of DejaVu, ten of Vera , and eight of Free. Meanwhile Sys:Fonts/_TrueType contains 109 files, no Free included. I must have messed up installation somehow. But I can call up a number of TrueType font files with either Character Map or AbiWord that aren't in CygnixPPC/Share/fonts, but are in Sys:fonts/_TrueType...

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If you want to install own fonts, please copy them to "Cygnix:Home/root/.fonts" and call the script "Cygnix:S/Utilities/Refresh-Font-Caches.bat" - that's all. They should also be visible in "Character Map".

The languages you see there, are the character sets included in the selected font (Selected in the top left chooser).


I think I now remember you telling me how to add fonts before. It's probably still within reach on this list, and that's presumably why I can write Chinese characters with AbiWord.

But your final paragraph above seems to imply that BitStream Vera Sans contains Gurmukhi (whatever that is) because I can set the font to the former and view the latter. Why would BitStream Vera have such a quaint font?

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Font questions
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I'm curious about fonts in AmiCygnix.

There's a Character Map in Accessories, with strange fonts for languages I've never heard of, like Gujarati and Gurmukhi. It has thousands of Chinese characters (how does one find the one he wants, I wonder) and both Japanese kanas. But there's no Korean.

I've poked around a bit in AmiCygnix, and have found at least two drawers called "fonts/," but nothing with the kind of files I imagine would be necessary for all Character Map can do.

A couple days ago, I wanted to make a document with AbiWord. It was an invoice, so I wanted to have numbers lined up vertically. I looked for a non-proportional font but found none in the rather short list of available fonts, so I ended up using FinalWriter (and Courier) after all.

But surely there is a way to add fonts to AbiWord? And possibly to "Character Map?

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Re: NetSurf 2.5
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@Chris

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I'm running both Cairo and plain simultaneously at the moment. I can't see any difference.


You can't do that If you try to run NetSurf twice it just signals the first instance to open up a new window.

There may be more to it in my case. Isn't this weird:

Directory "testpartition:NetSurf" on Sunday 25-Apr-10
fitr 69385 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04
COPYING 20308 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:04
ChangeLog 13137 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:04
SObjs Dir ----rwed Yesterday 14:17:07
NetSurf 1480877 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04
Install.info 8892 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:32
Install 11859 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04
Resources Dir ----rwed Today 15:57:32
Rexx.info 6206 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:32
Rexx Dir ----rwed Yesterday 14:17:03
NetSurf_Cairo 1480877 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04
netsurf.readme.info 6238 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:32
netsurf.readme 1007 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04
NetSurf.guide.info 6741 ----rw-d Friday 19:54:32
NetSurf.guide 7915 ----rwed Friday 19:54:04

Netsurf plain(??) is supposed to be 6975508 bytes! How do you suppose that happened? I'm going to change to the bigger one, but I had the idea that maybe the Cairo version should be bigger and better.

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Re: NetSurf 2.5
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@Mikey_C

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er its quote all lower case you have it as Quote


But you knew what I meant, I bet. Doesn't much matter how one types it.

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Re: NetSurf 2.5
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@redfox
[Quote]In any case the graphics.library version of NetSurf 2.5 works fine so far on my MicroA1. [/Quote]

I'm running both Cairo and plain simultaneously at the moment. I can't see any difference. Well, I take that back--I clicked on the "plain" version, but "Project > About..." says both of them are "Part-Cairo (OS4.1+) SObjs build"! Was in Himmel?

I couldn't get "Quote" to work while writing this reply. Maybe "Preview" and "Submit" won't work either? We shall see...

"Preview" didn't, but "Submit" did.

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Re: NetSurf 2.5
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@redfox
[Quote]In any case the graphics.library version of NetSurf 2.5 works fine so far on my MicroA1. [/Quote]

I'm running both Cairo and plain simultaneously at the moment. I can't see any difference. Well, I take that back--I clicked on the "plain" version, but "Project > About..." says both of them are "Part-Cairo (OS4.1+) SObjs build"! Was in Himmel?

I couldn't get "Quote" to work while writing this reply. Maybe "Preview" and "Submit" won't work either? We shall see...

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Menu access in Sylpheed?
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Is there a way to access the menus in Sylpheed?

With most programs, if the menu bar has underlined letters, typing the letter while pressing Alt will open the menu, but that doesn't work with Sylpheed on my machine.

Do I need to set something? Perhaps key bindings to something other than default?

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Re: Odd font problem
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@cygnusEd

Being fairly demented with age, it took me several attempts before I found and selected all the right options, but the FontForge treatment finally worked!

Thank you.

Now I'll have to make a point of actually using CINEMA some day!

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Re: Odd font problem
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@cygnusEd

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@kilaueabart

Can you post a screenshot, which shows the problem?


Well, no, I can't. I probably wasn't clear. Cinema displays perfectly in AbiWord (and in PageStream), but if I try to print it directly to the printer (the closest thing I can figure out to do that is print to file: "prt:output.ps"), the printer light blinks once, then comes back on steady.

Ditto if I print the file to ram: and copy to prt:.

If I print to ram: and try to open the file with AmiGS, I get an alert window named "Error" reading "Ghostscript interpreter exited: unknown error." Another window opens all the way across the screen, named "Ghostscript interpreter output," and it says, "GPL Ghostscript 8.54: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1."

I don't think it would make sense to send a screenshot of that. What I could send is the resultant postscript file. In fact, I think I will meanwhile do an identical document in PageStream and compare the output PostScript files.

Added later: I did that experiment, comparing only so far as to note that the PageStream file for one page containing the word "cinema" was 55013 bytes long, while the AbiWord file with "CINEMA" (only upper case available) was only 4237 bytes.

So I AbiWorded another file with "cinema" in TimesNewRoman and it came out at 9566 bytes. So I compared the two AbiWord files, and found no real differences that I could see. The TimesNewRoman was longer presumably only because the font bitmap contains more characters. However, the PageStream bitmap is 16067 bytes while the AbiWord one is only 1846 bytes.)

Aside from bitmaps, these are the only lines that differed:

This is from the one that does not print:

%%+ font (GnomeUni-Cinema Regular) cvn
%!PS-TrueTypeFont-1.0-1.0
%- Font subset generated from a source font file: '/Cygnix/CygnixPPC/share/imlib2/data/fonts/cinema.ttf'
%- Original font name: Cinema Regular
%- Original font family: Cinema
%- Original font sub-family: Regular
/FontName /GnomeUni-Cinema Regular def
/FontBBox [-73 -100 1202 900] def
Encoding 32 /glyph1 put
Encoding 38 /glyph2 put
Encoding 57 /glyph3 put
Encoding 61 /glyph5 put
Encoding 69 /glyph7 put
Encoding 70 /glyph9 put
/XUID [103 0 1 16#40790016 7 16#AAABA097 16#67609EE1] def
/glyph7 7 def
/glyph8 8 def
/glyph9 9 def
/glyph10 10 def
end readonly def
(\40\46\106\75\105\71)show
%%+ font (GnomeUni-Cinema Regular) cvn
=================================================
This is from the one that does print:

%%+ font (GnomeUni-BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman) cvn
%!PS-TrueTypeFont-1.0-2.0
%- Font subset generated from a source font file: '/Cygnix/CygnixPPC/share/fonts/truetype/VeraSe.ttf'
%- Original font name: BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman
%- Original font family: Bitstream Vera Serif
%- Original font sub-family: Roman
/FontName /GnomeUni-BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman def
/FontBBox [-183 -235 1287 928] def
Encoding 69 /glyph1 put
Encoding 71 /glyph2 put
Encoding 73 /glyph3 put
Encoding 77 /glyph4 put
Encoding 81 /glyph5 put
Encoding 82 /glyph6 put
/XUID [103 0 1 16#FF4760A7 7 16#8095A8A3 16#90B19511] def
(\107\115\122\111\121\105)show
%%+ font (GnomeUni-BitstreamVeraSerif-Roman) cvn


Edited by kilaueabart on 2009/12/25 0:39:24
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Odd font problem
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I was playing with AbiWord today, newly installed.

It has a few fonts I've never seen or heard of before; I thought it would make sense to print out samples, typing the font name in the given font.

Went well enough through all the more or less standard fonts, then Kochi Gothic, Notepad, Morpheus, and Grunge. But when I added Cinema to the list, neither my printer nor AmiGS would have anything to do with it: "Unknown error."

It displays fine in AbiWord, and also in System/TypeManager. I wonder why it won't print? Not that I see myself wanting to really use Cinema any time soon.

Incidentally, PageStream5 handles Cinema just fine, from edit screen to paper.

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