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Re: is born... (aka AbiWord 2.6.4..)

Posted on: 2007/3/19 17:11 #1641

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@COBRA

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Is it not possible to map accesses to bin, usr, etc. to a seperate directory, instead of using an assign? So that programs would reference them as Cygwin:bin/ Cygwin:usr/ , etc.?

For that you don't even have to change any code (or only very few which has builtin hardcoded paths instead of using the ones from configure), simply (re)configure und (re)build everything with --prefix=/cygnix, just like it was done in GeekGadgets (there it was --prefix=/gg or --prefix=/ade instead).

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joerg

Re: HDD Corrupted ! Please help...

Posted on: 2007/3/19 17:02 #1642

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@AmiGame

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Do you also know the "manual" command ? Is it something like "setenv boota SII680" then "saveenv" and "reset"?

setenv boot1 psiicdrom

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/15 17:04 #1643

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@Hans

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Just tried out your docky. Quite nice. I have a question about the WARNTEMP option though. I deliberately set it too low in order to test it out. Are you lowering the CPU's internal clock frequency or using some other technique?

Instruction cache throttling. Instead of forwarding one (for example on 750 CPUs, more on some other PowerPC CPUs, for example 3 on e600 cores, don't know if it's 1 or more on the 7451/7455 CPUs) instruction each clock cycle from the intruction cache it's only done every x? cycles.

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And what are you throttling it back to? My machine really crawls when that happens, I can see the windows and icons being redrawn!

I'm using the maximum possible slowdown, 255, i.e. you have something like a 3.1 MHz CPU when it's active

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/14 18:42 #1644

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@abalaban

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abalaban wrote:

I second COBRA's request, if thoses dockies wouldn't always show me 100% usage, I would use them.
For this to be done, docky should be able to filter out some task(s) (now it's dnetc for COBRA and me, but this could be anything else that works in the bg for someone else).
Even if I understand that the true CPU usage is really 100% everytime, it's the purpose of such utilies that installs during idle time, so I'm aware of this fact, instead I would be interested in knowing what CPU usage anything else is taking. If such option would be added I would find an interest in thoses dockies, without they are of no use for me : I have dnetc launched all the time on my A1....

I wont add an option to completely ignore such tasks, but in CPUTemp.docky 52.10 you can add the names of some special tasks like dnetc (since I've never used it I don't know it's task name, you have to add it to the tooltypes) and their CPU usage will be displayed differently to "normal" tasks.

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/14 0:30 #1645

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@COBRA

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COBRA wrote:
@MichaelMerkel

dnetc runs in the idle time, when nothing else runs. Without dnetc running the idle time is spent in exec's idle task.

Not if CPUTemp.docky is running, if there is nothing to do the CPU is stopped.
(Currently only on 750 CPUs.)

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/11 18:26 #1646

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@Snuffy

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Snuffy wrote:
Hi @joerg

... the AmigaOS4 idle.task never gets the CPU as long as CPUClock.docky is running, CPUTemp.docky can't switch off (parts of) the CPU when the system is idle and the CPU gets warmer.

Thanks for info! I'll checkout the new CPUTemp file.

I've uploaded a new version (52.9) of CPUTemp.docky which includes the features of CPUClock.docky/CPUInfo.docky as well.

But maybe someone should draw some nicer graphics for it

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/10 7:51 #1647

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@tonyw

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tonyw wrote:
@joerg

Question re measuring CPU activity: currently the method used is to run a lowest-priority task that estimates how much of the time it has control of the CPU, right?

Yes, and that has 2 major flaws:
- It doesn't use the time but an estimation based on a counter which fails completely if I change the CPU speed after it was started and calibrated itsef.
- It does something in the idle.task replacement (even "just" updating a counter needs at least an integer unit and load/store unit), which kills DPM and other methods of shutting down unused parts of the CPU.

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Surely this calculation would be easier to implement, less invasive and more accurate if built into the idle task itself?

Or even better in execsg, which does that already for all tasks

CPU usage in percent = (elapsed time - time idle.task was running) * 100 / elapsed time
There is just a "little" problem, the code which updates the accumulated running time of the tasks was broken and I only fixed it 2 days ago

But it's no problem to add a workaround for idle.task in such a cpu.library.

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/9 18:30 #1648

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@Raziel

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Raziel wrote:
@joerg

Is there a code example somewhere on how to grab the TAU information with C++?

It's impossibe without using (inline) assembler.

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I looked but didn't find something suitable on the net.

The THRM1-THRM3 (-THRM4 on 750GX/GL) registers are documented in the user manuals of PPC CPUs which officially have a TAU, for example 750FX/FL and 750GX/GL, and on the other CPUs which have a TAU it works the same way, with the same SPR numbers. Of course it crashes if you try to access them on a CPUs without a TAU (for example 604e).
But there is no register you can simply read to get the temperature, and if several programs would try to get it at the same time all would fail ...

If someone wants to write another program to display it as well I could write a cpu.library which returns the current temperature (or -1 for CPUs which don't support it), as well as the current CPU usage since the method used by most programs (CPUCLock.docky, etc.) isn't accurate and breaks everything else trying to do the same as well, and it breaks CPUTemp.docky too. But that would only help if everything displaying the CPU temperature and/or CPU usage would use this new library.

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joerg

Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?

Posted on: 2007/3/9 7:54 #1649

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@Snuffy

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I installed it my one docky that had "CPUTemp". My temp is 43C at idle. The temp immediately started climbing to 53C.
Holy crap! I looked at the tower guage and there was no change. Sheeesh! Can't use the docky with "CPUTemp"
docky.

I didn't test CPUInfo.docky yet, but it should be the same as with CPUClock.docky:

If you have a 750 CPU CPUTemp.docky disables (parts of) the CPU when the system is idle (idle.task is running), with only minimal parts of the CPU enabled it gets cooler. But CPUClock.docky installs it's own, higher priorty, idle task replacement, the AmigaOS4 idle.task never gets the CPU as long as CPUClock.docky is running, CPUTemp.docky can't switch off (parts of) the CPU when the system is idle and the CPU gets warmer.

CPUTemp.docky doesn't switch off (parts of) the CPU on 74xx CPUs (yet), but if the CPUClock.docky idle task replacement does anything more than the AmigaOS4 idle.task does you may still get nearly the same effect: With AmigaOS4's own idle.task the CPU itself switches off the units which aren't used using DPM (dynamic power management), with anything more complex running (the CPUClock.docky idle task replacement) that doesn't happen, or at least less parts can be disabled by DPM, and the CPU gets warmer.

BTW: I've uploaded a new version of CPUTemp.docky yesterday.

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joerg

Re: New CPU module for A1/uA1 from ACube System tested..

Posted on: 2007/3/4 10:52 #1650

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@Atheist

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Atheist wrote:
This is not A-Cube's fault, BUT the 1.267 GHz G4 is $632.97 Canadian.

This can buy a 32 inch HDTV in Canada (okay, during boxing day sale). BUT, it could buy a name brand 32 inch CRT TV and leave $150 in your pocket at normal times.

This could buy a DVD recorder, WITH a 160 to 250 GB hard drive in it, and leave $150 in your pocket.

I guess that freescale and ibm have left the building.

IBM CPUs are cheaper, even G5 CPUs are cheaper than fast G4 ones ...
The new AmigaOne CPU modules incl. 750GL CPU from ACK would have been cheaper than the repair of a broken G4 module with a new 1 GHz G4 CPU.
But both doesn't help, repairing broken G4 modules, for which you need to buy a new, pin compatible G4 CPU (other G4 CPUs may be cheaper and/or faster, but can't be used) and have to pay whatever Freescale wants for them, is all what's actually available for AmigaOne owners with a broken G4 CPU module.

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joerg

Re: New CPU module for A1/uA1 from ACube System tested..

Posted on: 2007/3/3 11:06 #1651

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@PEB

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PEB wrote:
@Raziel

That's kinda what I had thought, but looking at that chart on their webpage was giving me some hope. (There is a column titled "rework," which I thought might be the cost just for a fix; and there is another column titled "CPU cost," which I was hoping might be the cost for a brand new one.).

To get a G4 CPU module with broken CPU repaired you have to pay for the work (95 Euro + taxes) and for the replacement CPU (162.50 or 312.50 Euro + taxes).
For a 1 GHz 7457 it's about 310 Euro incl. VAT without shipping costs, for the 1.267 GHz one about 490 Euro. For people outside of the European Union it might be cheaper (no 20% italian VAT, but local taxes/duties and higher shipping costs instead).

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joerg

Re: Bounty (not coconut)

Posted on: 2007/2/19 20:40 #1652

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@bobsonsirjonny

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A mechanism for how the money is collected would also have to be set up. Paypal fees are crazy - but I cant see any way around them.

There are several alternatives to paypal, just not as easy to use. For example the moneybookers.com transaction fee is 1% but max. 0.50 Euro, i.e. the maximum fee of MoneyBookers, for transferring 50 Euro or more, isn't much more than the minimum fee of Paypal (receiving 3.85 Euro, or even just 2.35 Euro with currency conversion, costs 0.50 Euro with Paypal).

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joerg

Re: os4 japanese support

Posted on: 2007/2/10 0:45 #1653

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@keisangi

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with same settings file created with Editpad result is not ok.

You have to change the "Text type" in TypeManager to "Unicode in UTF-8".

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joerg

Re: USB Printer on OS4?

Posted on: 2007/2/9 15:24 #1654

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@Hans

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So I'm bypassing the printer device altogether. The printer driver is obviously swallowing up the control codes my little program sends and spitting somthing out.

printer.device uses the drivers to convert the generic printer.device sequences (check the printer.doc autodoc, CMD_WRITE) to printer specific ones, change it back to printer.device and use the aRAW sequence (\e[Pn"r with n = number of raw chars following) in front of your command.

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joerg

Re: Prokom SA buys some of Amiga Inc. shares

Posted on: 2007/2/8 18:02 #1655

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@Helge

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The operation system itself is in the hands of Amiga Inc.

How should that be possible? Do you have any insider information that they stole the sources?
Or do you only mean AmigaOS <= 3.9 (3.5 and 3.9 only partially)?

Even if the buyback clause would have been activated, which isn't the case according to Hyperion, the updated parts they'll get back are quite useless without the other parts of AmigaOS4.
Oh, sorry, I forgot that they don't need any of that since they have the much better "OS5" already (even if it doesn't have a kernel

), just like they had AmigaOS 4.0 completed already in 2001, before any work on it was even started, On Schedule and Rockin', ROTFL.

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joerg

Re: help! can't mount SFS2 CDRW...

Posted on: 2007/2/8 16:33 #1656

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@agafaster

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agafaster wrote:
@Jurassicc

Oo! no. where do I do that ? (I'm at wek right now, nowhere near my A1)

In the tooltypes of the CDRW/CDMRW icon.

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joerg

Re: main interface of bullet.library?

Posted on: 2007/2/8 1:28 #1657

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@LiveForIt

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LiveForIt wrote:
@rachy

No autodocs for ft2.library

bullet.doc, all outline font engines of course have exactely the same functions.

And diskfont.doc, using the font engines trough diskfont.library is much easier since with OpenOutlineFont() and the diskfont E#? functions all you need to know is the font name, not the name of the engine, if it's PPC native or m68k, etc.

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joerg

Re: main interface of bullet.library?

Posted on: 2007/2/7 17:19 #1658

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@LiveForIt

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Well maybe I have look at diskfont.library as well, its where important for me not to break forbids(), I'm writing a patch.

If you'd use bullet.library directly it would break Forbid()s as well ...

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Well I need to be able to render all glyphs, not limited subset of glyphs.

That's of course no problem, with the diskfont.library EOpenEngine(), ESetInfo(), EObtainInfo(), EReleaseInfo() and ECloseEngine() functions, which are exactely the same functions you have in the font engines, you have access to all glyphs.

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joerg

Re: Prokom SA buys some of Amiga Inc. shares

Posted on: 2007/2/7 17:11 #1659

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@Jurassicc

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Thats $2Million dollars for a 2.3% stake

Does that make amiga inc worth $87Million ???

Of course not, it just means they found a clueless investor again they could make believe it would be worth that much. This one seems to be about AmigaAnywhere, but they even managed to sell 5% based solely on AmigaOS4, which they don't even own, for 1 million US$ to another investor ...
Amiga Inc. is quite good at selling castles in the air

, but that seems to be the only thing they are able to do.

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joerg

Re: main interface of bullet.library?

Posted on: 2007/2/7 16:25 #1660

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@LiveForIt

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LiveForIt wrote:
Looks like I'm able to open the library, but I'm unable to obtain main interface of bullet.library I have tried interface version 0 to 30 any ideas?

Don't use the font engines directly but the diskfont.library E#? functions instead, that way you don't have to care if the font engine is PPC native (ft2.library) or m68k (bullet.library, etc.).

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