Wanted : I want to buy an original AMIGA OS04 developers CD. I hold 3 PPC AMIGA (2 1200 one with Grex, one with Bvision and one A3000T with mediator), I hope someone who doesn?t want to participate any more on the OS04 classic project to give me the opportunity to run and assist this special OS.
thanks

Is Mikey_C not a good looking man then?

Is anyone running stock ( no patches or gizmos ) levels of Workbench?

I tried recently, here is what I found:

Workbench 1.3

ARRRRGGGHHH!!! God this is AWFUL. Like the busy pointer though.

Workbench 2.04

Ugly, more pro looking but really ugly and doesn't do much. No backdrop picture!

Workbench 3.0

Disgusting. How was I ever persauded to use one of these?

Workbench 3.5

Hmm, almost like a real OS ;)

Workbench 3.9

Getting better, works pretty well off the CD.

Workbench 4.0 ( AmigaOS 4.0 )

Now that is what I call a decent out of the box experience.

The thing that is going to constrain you more than anything is space.

Memory, hard disk.

Because it is almost impossible to find a memory module for the Amiga that doesn't cost as much as one with an accelerator I'd buy the following off e-bay as a bare minimum to get going:

040/060 accelerator with as much ram as you can get.
360MB hard drive ( 2.5" ) or above.
IDE cable splitter ( 2.5" ) or adapter ( 3.5" )
CD-ROM drive, external or internal doesn't really matter as you are going to mount it outside.

I'd install Workbench on the new hard disk, I'd then get hold of Miami demo, or NetConnect ( if you can get access to it ) or an old OS3.5/3.9 CD. I have one lying around if you need one.

Then if you aren't going the 3.5/9 route start downloading stuff off the web. If connected to a PC monitor or a multisync monitor use DBLNTSC mode with 16 colours at 800x600. Forget DBLPAL - it flickers too much.

Don't use anything above that in terms of colour depth for the workbench as you'll saturate the custom chips and the serial cable starts to cut out ( it does on mine anyhow ).

Connect to the net, enjoy. Download stuff.

If OS3.5/3.9, well just run the network setup and its about the same but much more usable.

I know all about the restrictive licensing issue between Amiga and Hyperion from reading some draft contract on google. I know that when they release AmigaOS4.0 control can revert out of their hands.

What I am talking about here is how we can continue putting the politics aside.

I have an AmigaONE XE and it is not very well. It faired a bit longer than my other machine ( which was bought to try out another Amiga-a-like OS on PPC ) on which the CPU set fire to itself.

I am getting a bit worried as to what I will do next. AmigaOS4.0 obviously runs on top of firmware on a PPC with a certain subset of devices but exactly what is stopping it being used on a firmware emulator ( if it is possible with U-Boot ) written for either a PPC emulator or another PPC board ( perhaps one of the up and coming hobbyist PPC boards )?

The way I figure it is I have paid to use this prerelease and it isn't really my fault the XE is out of warranty and I have treated it with care but it does seem to be freezing a lot more recently. If it goes the way of the P*****s board and ends up in a skip what do I do then?

Can I not ever run AmigaOS4.0 again?

The ideal scenario would be for me to have a PPC emulator on my Sony VAIO until new hardware becomes available. I *know* I'd have to say that it was running slower than native to onlookers ( or maybe just a backdrop saying it ) if I wanted to show it off. But do we have a contingency plan? A plan F?

Those are all good ones! Not much of a joke here, but I did have a dream that Mikey_C and I both died and went to Heaven. When we both woke up in Heaven, I noticed that I was tied with golden rope to an extremely ugly woman, and Mikey_C was tied to an absolutely beautiful woman, the likes of which I had never seen before.

After all of us stood there tied up for a while, St. Peter came strolling in and greeted us to Heaven, and asked if we had any questions. Not missing a beat, I quickly spoke up:

"St. Peter, why am I tied to this horribly ugly woman?"

"Sauron, you're being punished for your sins that you weren't able to repent before you died."

"So why is Mikey_C tied up to an extraordinarily beautiful woman then?"

"Oh, that's simple; she's being punished for her sins."

:)

One of the first Amigas that I actually got to use was an A2000. I agree, they were quite a solid machine, and made this Atari 1040ST owner quite a bit jealous. I lusted hardcore after the Amiga after getting to use my friend's (and play a game or two of Agony!), and managed to get C= to send me some propaganda on the upcoming A4000 and A1200. :)

@klesterjr
Ibrowse looks better than IE from those piks
so it should

@Severin
your just teasing us now

come on what can you tell us about 2.4 ?

@Adept
as long as he ports it he can know what ever he wants too know

@All
its great to see so many saying what a great site this is

so to all involved in its development a big well done

@ RomanceClip
check the battery also what os is on your 600 ? rom chip ?

@Mothman

congrats its working
its always good too see it still works bet you yelled out in joy

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White dog poo maybe rare, but dog poo is not

@tonyw
welcome to amigans
good too see you here now the rest of the club would be nice

@samo79
i hope that Ibrowse2.4 update is close too release am looking so forwards to using it

and Severin remember i have baseball bat if you find any more bugs

Hello Amigans this is my first post

About the browser situation, IMHO isn't too terrible now, i think that we have a good chance to see some progress in the near time.

IBrowse for example is quite finish, only 13 bugs before the officiale release (off course if all goes well)

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AWeb is incomplete and the development is too slow, this is true, but the 3.5.09 is coming ...

But 100% we does't forget the Sputnik project, Marcik it is not contrary at all to an AmigaOS 4.0 porting and i'm sure that once he have finished the MorphOS version will be able to release also for AmigaOS (maybe via bounty or what else, now we don't know)

Also Paihia could become a real dream in 2007 as Mozilla too, if we can have a decent GTK/MUI wrapper in the near time ...

So feel positive guys, the loooong waiting is quite finish

Bye

P.S.
Congratulation to the mantainers, this new forum is very nice

Hi,

i use Aweb most the time ... ;)
Only on sites with "not so old" javascript [mainly my main torrent
sites] i use IBrowse .. and yes .. IB is faster on my 060/66
system .. but i have only the Demo [dont buy an non-css browser more,
haved buyed AWeb3.x].

The main problems for Amiga is not the non available Firefox
or not OpenOffice ......

FireFox is big and have potential problems with viruses/trojaner...
OpenOffice is big too and nearly no one need the whole pakage full ..

We need a fast and small browser [IB4 or a good Aweb WITH actual
javascript/css support] for modern web sites ..

And a compatibily with M$ word !
Maybe a library that allow loading/writing from actual M$ Word
formats .. THIS is needed .

And as interim solution a smal prg that convertes with the help
from the word.lib the word documants to/from FinalWriter/WordWorth ..
So the actual amiga text-apps can used and new apps benefits from
the word.lib was is holded up-to-date ...

maybe ... only a hint ;)

R-TEAM

Wow!
It takes a '60 as well.

I think you got a bargain there.

I often hanker after the upgradability of big box Amigas - there is nothing much I can do with my A500 or A600.

I am being talked into buying an A2000 by a guy called Retrogeek I came across on Ebay - I am wavering but he makes his points well and I am now 85% convinced.

The A2000 sure is the most undervalued machine in the Amiga family. The build quality is fantastic. They were over engineered and Commodore lost money making them. By contrast all the other models (even my beloved A500) were starved of resources and were shodily built.

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Great!

It's fantastic that another Amiga has been wrestled from the claws of death and is amongst us again.

This is joyous news, indeed.

What a wonderful response from all our fellow Amigan.net anigans - three cheers!