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Re: IPetition - Amiga inc vs Hyperion Entertainment - Status Update.
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@Mikey_C

I would suggest not to send anything to the court.

If I were the judge, I'd see it as at best an unprofessional move, at worst a sneaky attempt to influence the court decision by means which are not supposed to do so.

A judge is supposed to rule based on the impression of the case resulting from its presentation by the lawyers of the two parties, who in turn use witnesses and evidence to aid their presentation.

The only reasonable way such a petition could be presented to the court/judge would be if one or both of the lawyers would incorporate it as evidence.

AFAIK -- and IANAL (nor a judge)

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Re: Radeon cards - please list your config here
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AmigaOne XE/G4@800, 512 MB RAM

15 0x1002 0x5159 ATI Technologies RV100 Radeon 7000 / Radeon VE

Interrupt=No

It's a Radeon 7000 made by Club8

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Re: Argh, I'm not using my uA1, going to lend it out.
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@Snuffy

Quote:

Snuffy wrote:
Hi @aldur

umm, Troels said--
Please remember that Marcin doesn't have an A1 yet and that Sputnik on MorphOS will have to be a bit more mature before he will begin work on the A1 port.

That would be the greatest person to help!

We'll love ya forever!


Well, I believe Troels already has secured the machine that is going to Marcin. See http://amigabounty.net/sputnik/sputnik.html - it says among other things:

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Requirements.

Ready to run AmigaOS4 capable machine (already donated by a helpful Amigaworld.net user

The machine just hasn't been delivered to Marcin yet (and I assume it won't be until he announces that he's ready to start the porting work).

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Re: Amiga OS4 on PS3?? Not as cheap as some thought.
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@Troels
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Troels wrote:
@nbache

I have seen the IBM terrain demo on the net, here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV_95-rmYNo Is that the same demonstration?
Well, maybe what that video shows was the basis for what I saw, but they had it running in several windows simultaneously. The screen was more or less evenly divided in quarters, and the top right had the slow PPC version running all the time for comparison. Bottom right was a schematic drawing of the CELL's various units where (at least it looked like) she could ad hoc switch them on and off (changing their colour in the schematic) with consequential effect on the bottom left window, which with everything switched on ran at the full 30 fps, but basically the same render. It might very well have been the Mt. St. Helens one also show in the YouTube video, but I'm not sure.

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IBM must have had Linux on the PS3 without the Hypervisor or could the PS3 do a demo like that with all the Sony limitations? If the latter is the case I think the PS3 would be more than good enough for OS4.
Sorry, don't have a clue there :-} Hypervisor? It did run Linux, but apart from that I don't know about the details.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on PS3?? Not as cheap as some thought.
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By the way, this morning I came in just in time to catch the last part of another interesting talk:

http://linuxforum.dk/2007/program/saturday/Katalin_Walcott.shtml

I didn't hear all of it, but part of it was a walkthrough of the history of the POWER architechture and how it led up to the CELL. In some ways similar to the talks Mikael Haglund has been giving at the last couple of AmiGBGs. I couldn't help thinking that he should be persuaded to invite her over for the next one to assist/replace him.

A couple of (lousy) shots here:

http://home5.inet.tele.dk/nbache/stuff/LF2k7/IMG_0126.JPG

and:

http://home5.inet.tele.dk/nbache/stuff/LF2k7/IMG_0127.JPG

At one point during the talk, she said something like: "You know, I'm really not happy doing the presentation on this Windows laptop. Why don't we switch to some decent hard- and software?" and pointed to a PS3 down in the middle of the hall running Linux, which then took over for the rest of the slides and some live demos. There was a cheer from the crowd not unlike what could have been imagined if Amigans had been present at that famous occasion way back when IBM(?) used Scala on an Amiga for an important business presentation (I forget the exact occasion).

She did also show a couple of neat demos, one where a terrain was rendered in real time (Vista-like) into several windows, one was only using the PPE doing app. 1 fps, another had Altivec switched on to give 3 or 4, I think, and finally it got all the various units and pipelines working together to boost it to a smooth 30 fps. I'm not sure if it was pre-recorded, or they actually ran them all at the same time (or it could of course have been a total fake, but ...). Anyway, quite impressive.

Another one was a Julia Set calculation where the result was shown as a reflective, ever-changing "blob" sort of thing, floating in mid-air in a stylish room with doors, windows, columns, furniture etc., which was all reflected in real time onto the "blob". Could probably have dropped some jaws at a demo party ...

Edit: But of course I couldn't help sitting there wondering what might have happened if the OS4 project had been a couple of years quicker and funding had been abundant and so on ... could it have been OS4.x running those demos? (Sorry for the fantasy warp; we shall now promptly return your to your own reality.)

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Niels

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Re: Amiga OS4 on PS3?? Not as cheap as some thought.
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@Elwood

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Elwood wrote:
@nbache

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There is no helpful features such as prefetching, branch prediction etc. as has been the norm on previous generations of modern CPUs. Everything has to be done by the programmer.

or by the compiler (?).

Yeah, that's what I would have expected too. But I'm only going by what I heard yesterday, and it was quite clear that they were using C, but still had to plan out by themselves how to distribute and schedule the various work units optimally between the various threads.

Maybe more help will become available with later generations of compilers? But more waiting time for tools before being able to start such a project is not exactly helpful either.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on PS3?? Not as cheap as some thought.
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@Helge

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Helge wrote:
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Does IBM plan to make a desktop board with CELL?

Not according to Mikael Haglund at the last AmiGBG, at least. This may of course have changed since then.

I attended a talk today at the Copenhagen Linux-Forum, where a professor from the Copenhagen University specialising in supercomputing told about how they (the supercomputing "nerds") had convinced IBM that the CELL was useful not only for games consoles, but at least as much in the supercomputing field. They had taken delivery of some of the first blade servers with CELLs and had done a number of experiments and benchmarks etc. with them.

The two main points I walked away with were:

a) Yes, the CELL can (CAN) deliver pretty good improvements in performance (also for a lower cost/wattage/cooling) over a similarly clocked Intel thingy (don't remember the model they compared with).

b) This requires utilising the chip to its full. And that's not something any programmer will be able to do. There is no helpful features such as prefetching, branch prediction etc. as has been the norm on previous generations of modern CPUs. Everything has to be done by the programmer. A good utilisation of the chip's power involves dividing tasks into many independent threads (he gave an example with 18, I think, just for a simple task, and that was without having something else to take over when waiting for resources outside the processor, e.g. main memory, disk).
He estimated that only about 10% of current programmers would be able to pull this off in a reasonable way.

And we were not (as I thought at first) talking machine code here; their experiments had all been done in C, as that was the only language available to them so far. They were expecting to get Fortran at their disposal (apparently the supercomputing people's language of choice ) soonish.

If this is a realistic picture, I can understand why we haven't heard more from Hyperion about porting OS4 to the CELL; personally, I wouldn't want to touch such a project with a bargepole :-/

Of course, you could always port it to "just" the PPE (I think that's what the PPC compatible part of the CELL is called), but that would be a real waste, wouldn't it? Sort of like driving your 4.2 litre SUV half a kilometer down the road to the baker's and back Sunday afternoon? (Oh wait, people actually do that nowadays ...)

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Niels

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Re: Forum and Norwegian characters
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@Antique
As one of the posters there says, the problem is probably created by Opera.

And you can tell that Lars-Inge fella, that he's out on a limb claiming that AmigaOS has always had problems with Norwegian characters. Classic AmigaOS has always used ISO-8859-1 and only that; only with OS4 has it become possible to change the system charset at all. Well, unless you were using third-party "solutions" (hacks), that is.

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Re: Convert CD to FLAC music format
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@Antique

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Antique wrote:
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What's flac? and just not cd ->mp3?


FLAC is Free Lossless Audio Codec.

See e.g. http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLAC

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Re: Feature Requests for TuneNet
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@pjs

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There is one thing I noticed recently: TuneNet could really use the ability to sort the playlist by DATE. The need arises if one is trying to play a CD's worth of MP3's. Without such a search, entries are not loaded in the order of the CD but Alphabetical.
That's the reason I always prepend the track number and an underscore when I construct the file names of my MP3s.

But yeah, it's always nice to be able to sort files by miscellaneous criteria. And when sorting by date, it's also nice to be able to do it either ascending or descending (aka by age).

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Re: HELP - No UBOOT
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@Mlehto
Quote:
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@acefnq

For you or anyone who need to go inside of computer case.

It is good practice to leave power cord connected and shut down power supply from button (back of psu). If you don't have button, then you need to disconnect power cord.

That way case stay connected to ground and you can be grounded via case before handling electronics.

[...]
Of course, this only works as intended if you actually have a ground wire in your power cable and plug, <b>and</b> the power installation in your house does have ground connected all the way through. For instance here in Denmark, that is not very common, as we have had a requirement for HPFI(?) protection on all installations for many years.

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Re: context menu settings
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@MichaelMerkel
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... and to force the developers to do a prefs gui

I doubt I would be able to do that.

But such a program is something "anybody" could make. You know the file format, you know the GUI requirements, there is a whole drawer full of other Prefs programs to get hints from ... what's stopping you?

Or we could make a contest: Who will be the first to make a nice and conformant ContextMenus prefs program and donate it to AmigaOS as a small gift in appreciation for OS4 final?

I'm sure it would be appreciated; it would leave a core developer free for more demanding tasks.

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Re: context menu settings
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@MichaelMerkel
Ah, well spotted!

PowerMenus was a very early name for the thing. Apparently it has not been sufficiently eradicated.

There's also the PM part of some other keywords, they are also traces of ancient history.

I'll file an enhancement report about it, to make it recognize both, and to revise the documentation.

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Re: context menu settings
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MichaelMerkel wrote:
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the config file is ok. this is what the documentation is abount. have a look in the contrib drawer of the os4 cd: documentation/commodities/contextmenus.doc
Yep, you are right. I had forgotten about that feature and misunderstood your post. Sorry.

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there the format is described and also the part with the tooltypes mentioned to be able to do program specific context menus.
Unfortunately the icon for that doc file, which is referred to in the doc as having an example tooltype in it, has not been included on the final CD for some reason. I found an earlier version, and this is the tooltype it had in it:

POWERMENU=TT menu,CLI,requestchoice >nil: "ContextMenus specific menu" "Hey you clicked my tooltype menu !?" "That's right"

And that works as expected here.

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Re: context menu settings
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reading the contextmenus commodity documentation it says that you can define special context menus inside a tooltype of a program.
unfortunately this does not seem to work. anyone tried? missing feature or a bug?
That's probably an outdated piece of information you found there. The way (that I know of, at least) to customize the ContextMenus menus is to edit ENVARC:ContextMenus.cfg -- the format should be more or less be obvious by studying the existing entries. But do save a backup, just in case.

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also what about the prefs program for it? the docs tell:
"The Prefs program is being worked on."
is this still true?
Well, at least it is true that such a program has not been finished and/or released. Whether one is being worked on presently, I don't know.

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Re: IBrowse 2.4 OEM - search engine
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Pity I couldn't just slap Orgin until he parted with the info it would have been far easier than trawling through loads of debug info the find what was sent to the server...
Please refrain from slapping sysadmins. For thou art crunchy and tasteth great with mustard.

Debug info? I just viewed the source of a search result page and guessed the rest from that.

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Re: IBrowse 2.4 OEM - search engine
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and compare to the freely 2.4 version, there is os4depot added to the amigaos4.0 final version !
I just added that to my registered 2.4. For anybody that haven't found out how:

Open the settings, go to the User Interface part and select the URL Toolbar page. Add a new entry named OS4Depot and set the URL field to (without the quotes):

"http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... =simple&f_fields=%s"

And Orgin's your uncle ...

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Re: Beautiful blankers from RWO
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I want to modify the Flying Toasters so that other "objects" (ahem) appear from time to time.
Good man! I knew someone wouldn't be able to leave that stone unturned!

<whistling ...>

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Re: Status of PageStream?
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Does anyone know what's up with PageStream?
See Chris' link above.

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Before you ask, I don't do the PageStream mailing lists because of the way I've been treated on them.
You know, it is possible to read the mailing lists e.g. through the Yahoo groups web interface without being "treated" in any particular way whatsoever. There's even a search box if you are looking for specific information.

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Re: blank CLI window during OS4 Final boot
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You should add run <>nil: in front of addinterface in startup-sequence

Or else you get consol window, when can find network,

Actually, that may not be enough. The standard error stream is now redirected separately, so you might want to add "*>NIL:" as well. A better approach could be to add "*>T:NetStart.err" instead, that way you can get a chance to read any error messages and remedy their causes.

You could do the same thing with the User-Startup, I guess.

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