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Re: Ibrowse status?
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@Deniil

As Vader eludes to, there is no startup bug - not in IBrowse at least. I believe it has something to do with cache flushing in the 68k emulator(s). IB 2.3 always did full cache flushes, whereas 2.4 does partial address specific flushes (mainly because this is much more efficient, especially on OS4), which may explain why the 2.3 did not suffer startup crashes.

One way or another IBrowse 2.5 will be released, and hopefully sometime soon.

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Re: cardpatch and cardreset neededd in OS4.0 classic?
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@satiropan

Yes, CardReset certainly isn't required on OS4 and the workaround in card.resource has a wider scope than CardReset - i.e. everytime a card reset is necessary, the workaround is employed so that the reset always happens.

CardPatch on the other hand might still have a use on OS4, depending on the card, I guess. The bits that cover card reset problems are already covered by the above workaround, so are unnecessary on OS4. The ReleaseCard() patch is unnecessary also, since the card.resource code was fixed. It's just the "Slow bug" and interrupt server changes in CardPatch that were never directly put into card.resource. Mainly because while I was fixing card.resource so that it actually worked at all with OS4, I could not reproduce any of the problems mentioned (partly because getting access the PCMCIA slot in my A1200T is a major problem ), and neither could any of the beta testers - so I didn't change anything that I could not understand, test or verify.

So, definitely do not use CardReset on OS4, and don't try CardPatch unless you encounter problems.

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@Monoxyde

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Monoxyde wrote:

It can't be that hard to find a company to distribute IBrowse if the will is there. Both AmigaKit and apc-tcp have offered to do so.

Indeed. That's not the problem - the problem is trying to get Stefan to do something about it. IBrowse is Stefan's property after all, and right now he is ultimately the only one who can take such decisions and sign contracts, etc.

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@Hans

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Hans wrote:
@Futaura

It's been noted before, and no doubt the NPAPI on OWB will be made compatible; it doesn't make sense to have conflicting versions of the same API on one system. However, this post in another thread says that Ibrowse 2.4's implementation isn't 100% compatible with NPAPI.

Is there any chance that we'll see this fixed in a 2.5 release? And what about 3.0? I'm sure that many are wondering if there's been any progress on that front.

Depends what you mean by 100% compatible - I doubt any browser is 100% compliant with the full NPAPI spec. Certainly there are some bugs and omissions, but everything that is needed to get stuff like flash plugins up and running is there already in 2.4. Remember that we only had a flash plugin to test the API with, and we work with developers to address any NPAPI issues in IBrowse. A number of NPAPI issues have already been fixed for 2.5.

As for 3.0, at this moment in time it's not looking like it's going to happen, but never say never . And indeed with OWB, why bother? It's frustrating for me personally that 2.5 was not released on schedule (could have been released 12-18 months ago), with IBrowse running natively on OS4 since July 2007. The reasons for the delay are that our testers (and me too) had lots of stability issues with IBrowse on OS4, and it now seems that the majority of those problems were down to OS4 itself (recent OS4 beta updates have fixed remaining issues with IBrowse). Another major deciding factor is that we still need to sort out the distribution mess which has not changed at all since IOSPIRIT closed - this has to be sorted out with Stefan if we are ever to move forward .

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Re: NPAPI general support ?
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@LiveForIt

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@Swoop

IB2.4 supports NPAPI.

Indeed - has everybody forgotten about IBrowse already? The NPAPI compatible API was after all one of the main reasons IBrowse 2.4 was delayed so long. Stefan initially added NPAPI support to IBrowse many years ago - believe it or not, Christmas 2002 was the first time I saw flash up and running in IBrowse, but obviously it was a while before this was integrated into the IB2.x source tree.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Elwood

I've tried Folding@Home on my PS3, but I found the work units way too large. I think I even registered with the Amiga team on that, but I've yet to submit any work. The fact that it doesn't run in the background makes it kinda useless to me - I'd rather save on electricty than leave the PS3 on all day and risk overheating (although it is quite useful and cost effective as a heater in the winter ). I prefer to run dnetc on my PS3 - I don't switch it on just for that, but when I've got Linux booted I'm happy to leave dnetc churning away in the background while I'm using it for other stuff.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Swisso

Probably a few more than that, but probably most of those users don't have their machines on anywhere near 24/7 so are not submitting many blocks.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@abalaban

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PS: how would one know for which team he's crunching ? i.e. that's so long I registered DNetc that I don't remember if I finally had teamed with Team Amiga or not...

http://stats.distributed.net/participant/pedit.php?project_id=27

If you don't remember your password, display your own stats by searching for your email address on the stats pages and there will be a button at the bottom of the page which will send your password.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Swisso

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Swisso wrote:
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Have found client and am running OGR27 quite happily. Have questions which need concise answers.
How many A1 XEs and A1 micros and Sams are in the Amiga team?
Why is our cpu/os rating so low when I have clocked over 11,000 Gu alone with my machine? in just this 11 days?
Yes I understand there are other machines in the group but there cannot be only 4 max surely?
Why are we so behind Morphos?

Yeah, sounds about right to me, unfortunately. Simply put, not many PPC Amigas are running dnetc these days . The downtrend was visible in OGR-26 also. It's true that there is nowhere near as much advertising of Distributed Amiga as there used to be - there always used to be news items on all the Amiga news sites, but it's quite rare to see such a thing now .

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Paul

OGR-27 will take forever by comparison, also . That said, still quicker than OGR-25.

In case it went by unnoticed, the Amiga team finished 6th place overall in OGR-26.

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

The sluggishness is probably the pager kicking in, presuming you have a swap partition which is unavoidable (of course, none of IBrowse 2.4's memory is swapable). There is an "issue" with OS4.1 in that it will lock up when running low on ram. A smaller image cache may be advisable in order to help avoid the problem. This is not an IBrowse bug (I get the problem with AWeb and OWB, and practically anything else that starts to exhaust available ram).

BTW, note that "avail flush" is a no-op on OS4.1.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Monoxyde

You need to disable "Additional buffer-level checking" if you want to rotate between OGR-NG and RC5-72, unless you are offline at the time your OGR-NG in buffer becomes empty, in which case the client will automatically switch to RC5-72 until it is able to grab new work for OGR-NG.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@K-L

For sure the stats are not looking very impressive for AmigaOS PPC - given about 3000 of those 11000 Gnodes completed were from my A1 alone, there can't be many people running the AmigaOS PPC clients at the moment .

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@sundown

OGR packet size is variable, so it's hard to say - unless you happen to have some small packets, it's probably hours rather than minutes. The client will only normally flush packets once it has run out of packets to work on. However, via the GUI you can force it to flush any completed packets.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@sundown

Well, you have to submit some packets first, and wait for the stats database to update (which as at midnight GMT every day), assuming you have configured your client correctly (i.e. put your e-mail in as the id). Once you show up, you can login there and assign your work to the Amiga team effort.

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@Atheist

It seems some teams diverted their RC5-72 work effort to OGR-25 during the latter stages, hence why the Amiga team was overtaken. Currently we have just moved up to 7th place in OGR-26.

Of course, there are no rules against using linux/PS3 and quad core PCs in the Amiga team effort . That said, there is no PS3 OGR-NG client yet - apparently due to technicial limitations, it might be some time off yet. Altivec equipped AmigaOne's are still pretty fast at OGR-26 in comparison to most PCs.

This isn't an IBrowse thread - maybe I should change my avatar?

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Re: Update on OGR-25 Emergency
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@K-L

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I must be "the one person"

Yep . Glad it's working for you now. Still can't believe I missed that bug in the first place, but then again, it's been over 3 years since I've needed to build a new distributed.net client, so I think I can be excused for being a bit rusty - in a way, it's a miracle I even remembered how the whole process worked

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@abalaban

Hadn't thought of that - yeah, maybe AmiUpdate support is worth looking at. Certainly, the clients should not be uploaded to Aminet or OS4Depot, and indeed anywhere else other than distributed.net - that's a general distributed.net rule (not AmigaOS specific ).

Hopefully only the one person noticed that the new OS4 client crashed on anything other than an A1 with G4/Altivec - there's now an updated v2.9101.507b build available that fixes that bug (I took the opportunity to update the icons too, while I was at it).

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Polls
Running AmigaOS 4 on?
AmigaOne SE/XE or microA1 12% (26)
Pegasos2 3% (8)
X5000 22% (48)
X1000 14% (30)
A1222 8% (19)
Sam 440/460 18% (40)
Classic PowerPC Amiga 2% (6)
WinUAE emulation 7% (16)
Qemu emulation 9% (21)
Total Votes: 214
The poll closed at 2025/12/1 12:00
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