That is really nice ! More good programms !

You the Man again Ed ...Gimp really needed that jpg plug in to be useful ...now we have Gimp & Lodepaint working great under Os4.1 u2

This really nice, I really like Gimp.

@cygnusEd

Really really big Thank You ! You're The Man ! I love you !



This is one of the best days of Amiga hobby ! Now when Frieden brothers can make Timberwolf more mature I can throw my mainstream x86 computer out of the window and go back using my Amiga completely alone again after so many many years since 1990's ! (Even more when X1000 and Sam460ex will be out !)

Bring out the Gimp!

@mbrantley
:) who's next ?:)

Hm.. Think i need to check this out. How hard is it to install amicygnix?

@Antique
Easy, but all that AmiCygnix related progs have slow screen-refreshing (the problem of amycygnix itself). I.e. it feels a bit slow visually. But from other side its pretty stable.

If compare with LodePaint which works over opengl, GIMP over AmyCygnix works faster. As far as i remember. So, it's definately worth of installing.

@Antique

It's very simple: Just download the base archive, unpack it an launch the installer script. You have to answer some questions, but you can simply choose the default value, if you don't know what to do.
After a reset it is ready to use!
Install every application, while the Desktop is not running. That's all .

@all

Stay tuned for more plug-ins

Ed
I have just played around with this release and it is a seriously fantastic piece of work. You are to be congratulated.

ace

Not much of cygnix user but i like the avaibilty of it. Nice too see plugins support for gimp :) Will try it out later. thanks

@Ed

Btw, jpg support mean classic jpeg and progressive jpg , or ony one of them ? (why i ask, because read on some french amiga forum, that someone have problems with jpg). Maybe bad installation of course, but still, maybe you know more about :)

@kas1e

The base package of Gimp contains only some simple (internal) loaders. They are based on GDKPixbuf.
If you need a full implemented loader / saver, you have to wait for the loader plugin package volume 1. This package replaces all internal loaders with the original Gimp plug-ins. The JPEG loader should support progressive JPEG.
I will upload it tomorrow.

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ya I can confirm that Gimp under AmiCygnix is a bit faster in every situation compared to LodePaint on my Samflex....also the installation of AmiCygnix is dead simple so it's 100% worth the install time and GNumeric and AbiWord are great programs that also run under AmiCygnix

@cygnusEd
Thanks for explain. But as i can read in gimp readme, jpeg already internal and should support load/save by default for now ? Or you also remove internal loaders from main archive due to big size ?

@kas1e

At the moment you're using the internal loader. He is compiled into the Gimp binary and it is only a simple implementation. It's a kind of fallback loader.

When the loader package volume 1 is out, you can install the original loader, which overrides the internal loader.
BTW: If you only need the JPEG loader, launch the installer script in "Expert" mode (when it's out).

Astonishing! So far the most important amicygnix port!

Hats off!

Awesome!

How to start it ?

I've installed the entire archive on "Software" folder, the it create to me an icon on X11 desktop but when i double click on it nothing happen ! :-/

What's wrong ?

@cygnusED
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But that internal loader should load jpgs ? Or it works only with classic jpg, but not with progressive ones ?

Very good work.

Gimp works very well on my Sam-Flex 733. It is fast and no GrimReaper so far.

Well done!

@kas1e

Oops - I was wrong. Had a look at the sources and progressive JPEG should also work with the internal loader. So progressive loading for the internal loader is broken.

Please install the loader plug-in from the loader package volume 1!

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Internal loaders do exist for these formats:
- XCF
- BMP
- GIF
- ICO (Windows-Icon)
- IFF-ILBM
- JPEG
- PCX
- PNG
- PNM
- RAS
- TGA
- TIFF
- WBMP
- XBM
- XPM

Advantage of internal loaders: Fast and always available. And it saves diskspace, because the external loaders do need about 145MB!
Advantage of external loaders: Full featured and with GUI

BTW: You cannot use both at the same time. If the external loader plug-in is installed, the internal loader is deactivated! The internal loaders were created, when the plug-in interface was still broken. Now it is only a fallback loader.

@samo79

Hope you have used the installer script?

Please check the protection flags of the file "Cygnix:Software/Gimp-2.4.7/Start_gimp.bat" - the script flag must be set. Also check the execute flags of the binaries in "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/bin/gimp-2.4" and of the plugins in "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins"

Ok solved, it seems that script checkmark was unselect by default, after select it no problem anymore

@cygnusEd

Danke!

Amazing!
Thank you very much!

@CygnixEd
Very possible that for me was problems because of dunno what, but when i re-run gimp 3-4 times, then, internal loader start to work (and all kind of jpg, and png and alt).

Nextly i trying to install loaders1. And looks like i do something very wrong, but they not just slow, they unusable. Making a preview of JPG which are 1024x768 of size (120kb only), get about 20 seconds, and loading of image i think get about 30-40 seconds. With internal ones, everything fast and works as should (i think in 1-2 seconds).

That all on peg2 / 1ghz.

Maybe i do something wrong ?

@kas1e

Do you run out of memory with external loaders ?

@TSK
Dunno, but i have 1gb of memory. Right now deleting all plugins directory in cygnix/lib/gimp/2.0/plugin-ins/ , and internal loader start to works again, and they really fast . It maybe even faster that 1 seconds, all happens imediatelly.

Btw, i also have some MemGuard hits when use plugins.

@kas1e

It is correct, that the external loaders are much slower, but on your system they are slower than on my SAM 733 Mhz:

JPeg, 800 kB, 1200 x 1740:
Preview 20 seconds
Load 34 seconds

No idea, what is wrong.

@CygnixED
Anyway, looks like it very slow all in all, so internal ones are better choice for. Sadly that PIP mode have wrong colors, because will be cool to have gimp icon on WB, which are just a script, which run amycygnix + gimp in the window (which can make feel like it "native" ).

Shh! The gimp is sleeping

@kas1e

After having Abiword et al. runnning in a WB window for some time I switched back to use the "normal" AmiCygnix screen - I use (and used) the "screens" concept on my Amigas since the beginning, so OWB and DOpus and ArtEffect run on their own screens. And it doesn't "feel wrong" to use Abiword or Gimp on it's own screen also (despite the fact, that it is a own "desktop" - but what else is a usual "public screen"? ).

@kas1e

That's the reason, why the internal loaders were published. The plug-in implementation is not very fast. But the funny thing is, that some filter plug-ins are dead slow and some others do have a good performance. No matter of their complexity.

If it is important for you to use the PIP mode in AmiCygnix, you could replace the file "Sys:Kickstart/ATIRadeon.chip" with the one from the first release of OS4.1. Since update 1 it doesn't work anymore. But I can't tell you, which disadvantages it has.

Edit: "Sys:Kickstart/ATIRadeon.chip" from update 1 does also not work. You need the original file from OS4.1!

Fantastic, shame about the slow sreen refresh in AmiCygnix, but still very usable and nice to have access to all the Gimp filters and tools on OS4. Thanks!

Will probably still use ArtEffect more in reality though because of its faster startup and image loading.

Excellent! Works well