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Maijestro

Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.

Posted on: 2023/4/15 20:45 #861

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@RazielQuote:

Raziel wrote:@Maijestro

Im not on my gear, once I get back I'll check if there'd be any more options.

In the meantime you could post on the scummvm forum, maybe one of the devs has an idea or maybe this is even a bug that won't revert to all software rendering if no OpenGL is found?

I think it's a general problem of ScummVM on AmigaOs4.1 it just hasn't been reported yet. I would like to get it fixed so I can use ScummVM too.

Otherwise I have no problems with applications that can use software rendering directly, so I don't think it's my system.

Who compiles the current versions for AmigaOs4.1?

I could test or debug it with help.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/15 20:12 #862

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

If I use for example "Emotion" everything works.
If I put "Emotion" in full screen everything works
But if I then switch from full screen of "Emotion" back to its window.
The Workbench appears disproportionate and is no longer scaled eg 1280x720.
Does this also happen with other applications does it happen to you too?

Is this due to SM502 or do I have to compile something for SDL,ON ?

for MAC the " -display cocoa " option what is it for ?

Do you know how to "boot" automatically without writing the command line every time to initialize the "boot" ?

I have configured Amicygnix to export the DISPLAY
to be able to do this I need the amiga's ip not to be that of the "virtual router" .
With WinUAE I use NpCAP to directly use VMWare drivers how can I configure AmigaOS "RTL 8029" to get the same thing ?
for example with "Libpcap" is it then to have an external IP for AmigOS ?

With Qemu ?

Thank you

>If I use for example "Emotion" everything works.
If I put "Emotion" in full screen everything works
But if I then switch from full screen of "Emotion" back to its window.
The Workbench appears disproportionate and is no longer scaled eg 1280x720.
Does this also happen with other applications does it happen to you too?

I have to test this myself before I can answer this question.

>Is this due to SM502 or do I have to compile something for SDL,ON ?

There are currently problems under AmigaOs4.1 with SDL and the use of -cpu 7447 it affects most SDL applications. Everything else seems to work fine. The problem is known and is already being investigated. You could try to use another CPU for Qemu, but then the emulation will be a bit slower again.

>for MAC the " -display cocoa " option what is it for ?

It is a GUI frontend specifically for MacOs, similar to SDL and GTK. First introduced with Qemu 7.2 as far as I can remember.

>Do you know how to "boot" automatically without writing the command line every
time to initialize the "boot" ?

You could create a StartScript that does this automatically for you. For Windows and MacOs there are already instructions for this on https://www.amiga-news.de/de/forum/thr ... 36423&BoardID=6&start=151

"NVRAM settings aren't saved after exiting QEMU (to make the boot automatic)".

The nvram is not emulated yet therefore firmware environment variables are not preserved so the boot command has to be typed at each boot. As far as I know, they are already working on it.

>I have configured Amicygnix to export the DISPLAY
to be able to do this I need the amiga's ip not to be that of the "virtual router" .
With WinUAE I use NpCAP to directly use VMWare drivers how can I configure AmigaOS "RTL 8029" to get the same thing ?
for example with "Libpcap" is it then to have an external IP for AmigOS ?

I cannot answer this question, I have not tested it.

I like to write with you, but please don't ask so many questions, I'm the wrong person for that

One more thing, after installing AmigaOs4.1 FE you only need FE update 1 and FE update 2. HotFixUpdate 2 was added later in FE update 2, it is unnecessary to install
this HotFix if you have update 1 and 2 installed.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/15 19:29 #863

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

GfxBench:

The one at 17.134.22 is me (Ryzen 5800x)

i tried to do it yesterday

But clearly they are entirely scores in theory
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS

p.s
Today I prepare a few questions for you

but the FIX update (the third one released by Hyperion must be installed)
because in the live update it is not in the list.

EAB (it is the site of WinUAE).

But you can choose where you prefer to write about qemu..

I owe everything I've learned about AmigaOS 4.1 over time to this forum.
And to its users who know how to really use 4.1 and beyond.

Where there has always been an open mind towards emulation.

Besides the fact that they have always been available.

So if Amigans users don't mind, here too it would be a great choice because apart from emulation you can count on their experience on the software side, etc.

Thank you.

Your values are excellent in the benchmark, mine are from 26.2.2023 without -cpu 7447 I think I should repeat this benchmark so that I am again at the top of this list

Sure I work closely with Balaton Zoltan and through my persistence we have moved the project forward together, but I am not the developer of it all!

I get most of the information from BALATON Zoltan. The rest is based on my 4 months experience with the Qemu Pegasos 2 emulation AmigaOs4.1, as I tested it extensively.

With good luck there will be soon a central place for this project where we can collect our experiences and improvements.

BALATON Zoltan will try to provide this forum and we can then create it together and exchange experiences ,it is better than me having to post in countless forums.

I myself would like to play a bit more with AmigaOs4.1 under Qemu, but at the moment I am already too busy with answering questions.

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Maijestro

Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.

Posted on: 2023/4/15 9:36 #864

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@cortoQuote:

corto wrote:It's in "Global Options" then "Graphics" and finally "SDL Surface" in "Graphics mode" and "Software" in "Game renderer".

But it is possible that the GUI itself uses OpenGL by default. In this case, you can try starting with:

scummvm --renderer=software

@raziel
One minute faster than me!

Note: My suggestion is looking at the Linux version ... the only one that I can run right now.

First of all, thanks for your help guys. Apparently as already suspected the ScummVM GUI uses OpenGL. When I start ScummVM I only get a window with black content and I can't see or set any options.

What I tried is to edit .ini file, here I changed gfx_mode from opengl to software and SDL without success. This is the result:

https://ibb.co/88KvMYs

Also the attempt over Wazp3D (OpenGL) brings no remedy the picture output has then a red sting. Result:

https://ibb.co/pXbWQLt

Also starting ScummVM via the shell with ScummVM --renderer=software does not work.

"WARNING: OpenGLGraphicsManager::endGFXTransaction: Could not load any graphics mode!!!"

Does anyone still have ideas?

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/15 8:39 #865

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@Petrol

MacStudio with Apple M1 Max Chip
10-core CPU with 8 performance cores and 2 efficiency cores
24-core GPU
16-core Neural Engine
400 GB/s memory bandwidth

It seems to be the perfect emulation machine

But even with current PC hardware i7, i9 the emulation will be impressively fast.

As I have done some benchmark tests it proves that Qemu Pegasos 2 is currently the fastest emulation we can use with AmigaOs4.1.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/15 8:18 #866

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@white

I installed the Enhancer Software 2.2 only after Update 1 and 2. But you should not install everything, some parts cause problems under AmigaOs4.1.

I installed it piece by piece and tested if the system can handle the new updates.

You write on EAB? What is that?

This might be helpful for developers, or someone who can and wants to help:

https://osdn.net/projects/qmiga/wiki/AmigaOSGfx

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/14 22:40 #867

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@white @khayoz

Qemu Pegasos 2 has real potential, this emulation is very impressive and I am happy to use it.

Thanks for the video white it shows once again how fast this emulation is already without the still missing 3d acceleration.

At the moment everything is a bit scattered German users, as well as other language speaking people. However, there were many hints from users who are testing it.

There should be a central point where we can all share our experience. I will discuss this with BALATON Zoltan, it is a bit exhausting for me to keep everyone informed when there are changes regarding Qemu Pegasos 2. Only this way we can push the development forward. We as Amiga community can make a difference

You can see the latest developments on https://www.amiga-news.de/de/forum/thr ... 36423&start=121&BoardID=6
but it is not practical. I also don't want to have to register in countless Amiga forums.

Maybe someone has an idea how we can all meet in one and the same forum where the Amiga project can be discussed? I would take care that users gather there.

Otherwise we wait and see what BALATON Zoltan recommends, he is very nice and is grateful for any help.

Finally a few benchmarks I did with SysMon:

https://ibb.co/bBwjZrc SortBench

https://ibb.co/Rcw25Rg RageMem

https://ibb.co/9G2fZQD SDLBench

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/13 19:55 #868

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

Perfect now everything works fine with the amiTube 1.4 version also with altivec.

if you want to see the files directly online without downloading them first:
run the program and edit the .ini file

here the .ini file:
[Player]
Path=Sys:Utilities/MultiView
Parameter=%f
MPEGPath=Sys:Utilities/MultiView
MPEGParameter=%f
URLPlayerPath=Amiga:Utilities/MickJT-MPlayer/mplayer-nonaltivec
(( or altivec player ))
URLParameter=-really-quiet -vo comp -autosync 30 %u
WGetPath=C:wget
WGetParameter=%u -O %f

I already know these settings, we had already discussed this in the WinUae forum

Anyway thanks for the hint the G4 cpu emulation is very fast.

I made a short test video how the whole thing runs now with G4 CPU and SFS on my machine and I am partly very impressed by it, see for yourself.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5r7TV8wDE

The video is still being edited for playback in HD

Edited by Maijestro on 2023/4/13 20:22:17

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/13 18:39 #869

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

Could you give me the settings you use with MickJTPlayer because I can't get it to work right.

If I use AmiTube qemu crashes completely
Whereas Emotion works perfectly.

If you prefer also 2 screenshots including settings in MPplayer-GUI

Thank you

Put everything on comp works perfectly for me. But I use the normal player not player altivec, but this also works with Odyssey YT Script.

Also AmiTube works very well with the new Cpu setting.

https://ibb.co/56wh2wn

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/13 17:17 #870

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@white

Ok the problem with SFS under Qemu Pegasos 2 is solved by adding your startup line -cpu 7447.

The default settings for Qemu Pegasos 2 use a G3 PPC CPU. Test the whole thing and also start Ranger under AmigaOs4.1 there the CPU is displayed correctly also Altivec works with MPlayer.

Also the emulation will be much faster.

https://www.amiga-news.de/de/forum/thr ... 36423&start=121&BoardID=6

Take a look at the last entries

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/13 14:54 #871

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

I have no way of explaining to him how to do it,
But I guess among programmers it's easier to list what to use.

And how to implement the Voodoo3.
I'll leave him a message for Voodoo 3 because it would be a big step forward.

He could exchange some ideas with Toni or with the author of PCem

Among them who speak the same language it should be easier to understand each other

Ah by the way when I was using a real 68k amiga I had found a program that animated .GIFs I don't remember the name but it's still there on "aminet" it's very simple to use

Just create the BoingBall logo and provide it with coordinates
And you can have the animated BoingBall running on the TitleBar
Just create a sequence of few frames of the "BoingBall" and put it in the "startup"

Thanks for the tip I will test it later.

Good that you have written to him again. I am also in the process of solving the SFS problem with much luck can use the PPC of SFS, I'll get back to you later.

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Maijestro

Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.

Posted on: 2023/4/13 9:01 #872

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Hello I would like to use ScummVM under AmigaOs4.1. About my problem:

I use AmigaOs4.1 via Qemu Pegasos 2 emulation the sm501 driver can't do 3D acceleration and is limited to 16 bit color depth, as well as on real hardware (Sam460).

When running ScummVM I get the following error message:

https://ibb.co/FqdGSLQ

Is there a possibility to run ScummVM anyway, maybe via software rendering or another way I don't know?

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/13 8:21 #873

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

I compacted it with winrar (windows)
if you have problems exchanging files you can create .iso and eventually mount them with qemu with everything you need inside.

The archive is not corrupted unpack it first with the MAC and then pass it on an .iso to use with qemu.

The path to Boing Title Bar:

Evo/BitMaps/SbarLogo/default

Ok I got it done thanks for the help that theme is wonderful

https://ibb.co/fd90CbD

ZBalaton told me that if we have any suggestions for the Qemu Pegasos emulation we should write him directly and discuss it e.g. Voodoo emulation etc. he reads from time to time. So please contact him directly or post ideas on his project page.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 20:35 #874

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

I modified it a little, use the link I sent you
and follow the indicated path

if you don't have the "Themes" folder you have to create it and put EVO inside it

use theme

if everything is ok, save

the background for windows and menus is the backround you always find them inside the same folder.

Use Theme is not executable maybe your archive is broken or AmigaOs4.1 has problems with .rar files, I unpacked it directly under AmigaOs4.1. I can customize the paths myself

https://ibb.co/sjY9XDT

I've got it somewhat worked out, I just need to know how to insert the icon in the top left then it's on their stand.

https://ibb.co/rHMdxtL

Edited by Maijestro on 2023/4/12 21:03:36

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 19:52 #875

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

I understand you perfectly,
I started using 4.1 emulation with the A8 laptop
then with an "I5"

If Voodoo is implemented in qemu it's a good thing.

It's certainly not that I play Quake 2 with WinUAE emulation
it's just fun for me too.

For the EVO theme gladly, give me some time,
Thanks.

Found it:

https://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=132776

It doesn't seem to be the same as theirs, the background image is different and the top left of the workbench is missing the BoingBall graphic.

https://ibb.co/GppyCc6

Edited by Maijestro on 2023/4/12 20:12:50

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 19:31 #876

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

The theme I use was made by @imagodespira it's called EVO THEME I immediately liked it when I saw it.

It is not available on Osdepot to download it I had to subscribe to the German forum if I remember correctly

I think he likes his theme being used.

Can you provide the theme?

As mentioned before WinUae does not run under MacOs M1, there are no alternatives to Qemu on my system, that's why I use the Qemu emulation and I'm happy with what is currently possible.

For me it is the fastest emulation currently possible under MacOs. Also the 2D acceleration is very good. Of course I would have even more fun with 3d acceleration.

See the last 4 entries on http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS they are from me

Nevertheless I am happy that I can use AmigaOs4.1 in such a speed without having to buy overpriced hardware for it.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 18:34 #877

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

Works
I have a bad habit of not restarting

I had recompiled it from source.

I am very pleased to talk about emulated AmigaOS with you.

Thank you

https://youtu.be/MoFFlAPLp3E

Good to see

Yes we are similar, like to use AmigaOs4.1 and like to test things and are not satisfied with anything that already exists and want to have it even better

Your WB theme is available on Os4Depot? I like it.

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 18:29 #878

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

Here you can see your video published on youtube, using the rotating cube:

I put next to the emulation of Voodoo with WinUAE.
To see the speed difference.

that's why ZBalaton should implement it since the code on "PCem" is available.

https://youtu.be/vrPG97vEr9U

We could start a poll if there is interest for a Voodoo emulation under Qemu Pegasos 2 and present the result to ZBalaton, maybe he will be inspired.

Also the idea of the integration of the uae.gfx card was already mentioned and could succeed if Toni would provide the source for it. Or does this already exist?

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Maijestro

Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 18:02 #879

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro
Yes but only the "restart" works the other items work but the complete shutdown of the machine does not occur
(basically the emulation doesn't stop)
I changed all is three voices.

Maybe ZBalaton doesn't realize that by emulating Voodoo3 emulating him would attract many more people.
And therefore people willing to help him.

Because until AmigaOS is emulated without a graphics card it doesn't offer much.

But rightly so, they are his personal choices, he probably has other priority interests.

(( also because the code is available he just has to implement it inside qemu.
He doesn't have to write it from scratch ))

You need to modify the file from the Qemu 8 RC3 source before compiling. Only then recompile the whole thing and the patch will take effect.

Youtube: https://youtu.be/-mDRLylVWYg

ZBalaton would surely open a side project Qemu Voodoo emulation if I ask him, but as already mentioned he would not do it alone. He is more interested in the ati emulation, but there are no developers for that at the moment.

If we could get some developers together for this it would be easy to integrate the Voodoo emulation into Qemu. Also the SFS problem could be investigated further and many other things...

I am not a developer, I just test things and play with AmigaOs4.1

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Maijestro

Re: Was ist heute die schnellste x64-Emulationsart von OS4?

Posted on: 2023/4/12 17:13 #880

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@whiteQuote:

white wrote:@Maijestro

And this is what it should look like ? :

https://ibb.co/QQpR3nF

Leaving aside the implementation of Voodoo because it doesn't depend on us.

I noticed that deleting the monitor in Devs:sm502

Everything works the same is this normal?

That is strange where does the information come from under AmigaOs 4.1 for the resolutions without Devs/sm502.

Yes exactly over this menu Qemu can now be closed under AmigaOs4.1, have you already tested it?

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