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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - software problems.
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@Cyborg


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Can't reproduce that here.. but maybe it will show up while i'm working on another issue with clock.docky."


Here :

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/592/os40os41dp2.png

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I'll check that... i *think* i know what's causing that, but i'm not sure i can fix it without major rewrites of AmiDock (which i surely won't do).


Oh god, don't tell me that is a sync/async problem of UI framework, It's my new nightmare from I code on The Amiga

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That's not a problem of AmiDock.. every (app)docky is free in its decision if it reacts on single- or doubleclicks. AmiDock just informs the docky about what happened, but the Docky itself is responsible to react to the action.

So if one docky opens a window on single click and another docky only after doubleclick, it was the decision of the dockycoder to do it that way and not AmiDocks.


Uhm, this gives very space to coders ideas, but pheraps would be better to give to user a prefs where he can choose if he want all appdockies to open with one or two clicks? Leaving this choose to coder means to have an UI few coherent (an appdocky with one click, another one with two clicks, etc...: confusion....), instead if you leave this choose to user then he can decide how interact with system, mantaining in any case system UI coherent (all appdockies with one click/ two clicks).
Btw, how can I set from my code if I want one olny click for my appdocky?

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We are at OS4.1 meanwhile.. ;


Please give us a way to join with "super Attak" a subdock to its icon

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - software problems.
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AmiDock issue:

-Text labels of AmiDock on 4.1 don't look perfect, see docky clock in text mode, you have to set its font to bold for seeing something...;
-On 4.1 AmiDock many ways doesn't show the double glow effect when you selected an icon, it seems to be "freezed" and when part of the relative program starts then it shows the "second part" of double glow effect (try with OWB). This is ambiguous, in fact I don't understand if I've right clicked on icon or not...
-Many ways it happens you have to click more than once on a docky icon to executed the associated action (see docky icon of YAM, AmiFTP, NoWinED). In other word, in many occasions you have to perform a double click on a docky icon to be sure to execute the relative action;

AmiDock suggestions:

-AmiDock from OS4.0 PreRelease hasn't yet a way to "join" (magnetize?) a subdock with its icon which opens it;
-AmiDock has not any kind of explanation of why there isn't yet a way to resize icons into it, in fact it is a new piece of software (while WB is yet the old one source code and I understand it's difficult to improve it) and when AmigaOS has new features like icon.library resize icon feature it should be simple to add this feature to AmiDock;
-AmiDock has not any visual feedback when you are on the top of it with pointer, for example it could show selected icon image when you are on the top of it with pointer;
-And it's even strange that we can't set AmiDock kind of border, it would be visually good and it would follow the personalization idea of new Intuition (And it is a Reaction program, so it should be simple to add something of this...);


About new skins:


-4.1a,4.1b and 4.1c images are very good, I love visual feedback which remembers glow effect (it could be painted a version with yellow glow...). However they give a little area on which you can click, this has compromised AmigaOS UI usability, in fact your click has to be precise otherwise you haven't any action executed;
-The little click area of skin images led another usability problem in fact there is an ambigous behaviour of UI: when you "wrong" hold down on an image like "Close" or "Depht" gadget the new skins permit you to drag window from left top and right top angles of a window, it's totally wrong and have to be fixed IMO;
-Title top border of active window trasparence is not configurable;


ASL issue:

-There is not any distintion between a load file requester and a save file requester. Before than now we can identify a save requester with different colours, this thing could be implementable now for example writting directory with a red colour and file with white color or similar. I hope we will can reaquire load/save distinction;
-When it's opened a file requester in which you can select more files, it gives you a strange feature to select more the one directory. Ambiguos;
-When you open a file requester and drop into it a directory, the focus is not just into string of name file, but it gains focus after you press a key, so if you want find in a directory file "foo" with keyboard like old ASL, if you write "foo", new ASL takes "oo". You must select name string with mouse befor to write any thing;


A little suggest to AmiPDF dev:
Can you insert this behaviour (more intuitive and few errors from user use of the program while he reads a pdf):

-ArrowKeyUp/ArrowKeyDown: move up/down the visualized page (page n);
-ArrowKeyLeft/ArrowKeyRight: move to (n-1) page/ move to (n+1) page;

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - software problems.
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@GrumpyOldMan

yes, NewsCoaster native latest version (((

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - software problems.
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@TSK

AccessDocky has a strange behaviour with [no title] dock, if you select it, than it disappears, and the olny way to re-shows it is to iconify/deiconify it. In Addition to this it should be configurable ("shows even window in other custom screen?", "max len of context menu item= n" or similar)


Edited by ShInKurO on 2008/9/17 10:19:13
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Re: 5 New Themes
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@ShInKurO

And arrow images should be into green (same title bar colour) rectangular buttons
Even scrollbars should be green, so all selected things will be in foreground...

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Re: 5 New Themes
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@klesterjr

You should remove the "x"from close gadget and instead to instert something of "o" with the same style of arrow images... Then yes, it would be an original theme for 4.1

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Re: 5 New Themes
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@klesterjr

Ken can you draw tiffany skin in blue gem instead of green?
In that way you could propose it as AROS default theme
Very nicer than default one

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - software problems.
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- NewsCoaster: (68k or native) freeze OS4.1;

- AWeb: buttons-link if are composed by a long label, that label overwrite other buttons;

- TranferAnim MCC MUI Class: mcp configuration file crashs MUI3.9;

- CompactWindow MCC MUI Class: mcp configuration file crashs MUI3.9;


Edited by ShInKurO on 2008/9/13 10:07:19
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Re: OWB2.8 rocks !!
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Joerg please fix the graphical missing feedback of the copy process into clipboard: when you press Ar+C on a marked text if all it was copied marked text should becomes unmarked.
There isn't an undo function (Ar+Z), so if you cut into a text field you cannot come back...

When you iconify OWB, when you deiconify it, its window dimentions are the same of when OWB has started...it should remeber latest windows dimentions....


Edited by ShInKurO on 2008/9/12 11:20:10
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Re: MemGuard on OS4.1
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@ShInKurO

Up! :)

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MemGuard on OS4.1
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Hi,
this is a question for OS4devs, I always used MemGuard for debugging my sw on OS4.0, but if I use it while I compile with gcc4.2.2 it shows me (with sashimi) which the reaper.task causes memguard hits:

MEMGUARD HIT - "reaper.task" (6d9cc4a0)
rear wall damaged -- 69DABAD0 = AllocMem(100, 00011000)
...

For each compiled file with gcc, so should I wait a new version of MemGuard or is there a substitute on OS4.1?

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Re: OWB 2.7
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@joerg

bug in c&p function: if you paste text in ASCII extended with for example ????? from another program you will have this:

�����

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Re: OWB 2.7
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@orgin

If a program is olny for OS4 it's right to use data management offers y application.library, it's a wonderful library (but it should be much documented). You not olny store and retreive informations with application.library, but you can even interact with AmiDock in many nice ways...

Btw joerg, please don't add the same bookmark used on Blastoise version, it's ugly, it takes a part of visible area to visualized links and it is few usable... you should implement bookmark managment from menu item (or web page like aweb), more useful and usable than old one. I suppose Reaction gives you a menu class (MUI does)...
If you have choosen to save prefs information with tooltypes you should give to user a menu voice from which he can save them instead to manually insert them from workbench (it should be inserted a similar function into icon.library, so you can suggest this to other OS4 devs ;-D, something of "SaveToolType(STRPTR *toolTypeArray, STRPTR typeName)")...
And please, give as a way to add button links on GUI

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Bugs Thread
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@Chris & joerg

http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/UniLibDev

I use it for NoWinED, it has UniCheckEncoding() to check what format is used...

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Bugs Thread
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@Chris

for UTF you could use the uni.library and unisupp, you find them on Aminet :)

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Bugs Thread
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@Chris

"What are you trying to do with shift? It's not being sent through to NetSurf yet, except in the case of forms."

it's just in that case

it seems to be slow to understand that I've pressed shift to write a ")(="?$%(%" etc...

"Minimum font size can be changed by opening Resources/Options in notepad and searching for font_min_size (there's also font_size which you'll need to add to the file, but modify that at your own risk!)"

Done thanks!
It's a your custom file setting or original NetSurf engine uses that kind of config file? If you haven't any project in mind to port netsurf on OS3/AROS/MOS I suggest you (if it's a your custom config file) to use application.library which gives the feature to have xml config file... I believe that a good Reaction prefs frontend for that kind of prefs can be written by some of Reaction fan without to encrease your work

And yes, a docky icon from which iconify/deiconify with a click could be useful (see my NoWinED [on my site] behaviour)


"100% CPU usage is because it doesn't Wait() - it seems to want to go off and do other things which prevented me from doing this. I need to revisit it as it could just be the scheduler. It's very much on my list."

Good work and thanks

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Bugs Thread
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@ShInKurO

My site is bad visualized :9
http://shinkuro.amiga.it

-missing whell mouse support

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Bugs Thread
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Chris, good work! I've tried Netsurf, I'm remained surpriced :)
bravo :)

- www.amigapage.it are bad visualized and links are blue(?!?) ;

- it seems shift modifier doesn't work good, just try and see you have to press shift for a more time to motify a button behaviour;

Fonts are too less;

100% CPU usage ((

Thanks in advance :)

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Re: NetSurf2.0(dev) Feature Request Thread
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@Raziel

Open it on workbench... wtf!==!?!? :))))

I love the fact on Amiga to open a big program like a browser or a graphic program like art effect on a custom screen, give me order, but they are personal prefs

Seriously a good 21th browser should have:

- tabs, because they give order to opened web pages; (usability feature, very important)
- Speed links which can be visualized in any part of browser window (like IBrowse);(usability feature, very important)
- Bookmark on menu (like IBrowse, but much enhanced);(usability feature, very important)
- source of current web page visualizer;
- bookmark manager;
- cache manager;
- download manager;
- history of latest visited web pages on menu;
- open of local files;
- save a web page/web site;
- search engine;
- progress bar/lamp indicators (feedback to user);
- c&p; (usability feature, very important)
- d&d;
- it have to rispect Amiga style guide where it's valid yet; (usability feature, very important)


Without all these features we have not a browser, but olny a visualizer web page engine...

Usability features are a very important piece of a software and make it a good software...

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Re: OWB 2.5
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@joerg


Please Joerg, can you respect, where it's valid yet, Amiga Intuition Style Guide? AmigaR+C = Copy, you have associated this shortcut to "Close page", if you will implement c&p on browser AmigaR+C will be use from the user for "Copy on Clipboard".

Thanks in advance for your work.

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