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Re: OS 4.1 and Blu-Ray
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@Antique

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Any plans to make support for blu ray disks for os4(reading)?


Are you talking about plainly reading DATA of a blu-ray? I.e. you want to copy something from the disc to your HD or so? Isn't that already possible? As Blu-Ray discs use UDF as filesystem... shouldn't it then already be possible to read them (as plain data discs) on AmigaOS? Or would the UDF implementation in CDFS need an update? J?rg?

But most probably you (like most others) want to *watch* blu-ray movies. And, while everyone is free to correct me, that is most likely *not* possible with our current hardware. Seeing that some systems already have trouble with simple DVD playback (speedwise), i somehow doubt that even the 1Ghz G4's would be fast enough to decode the HD video and audio data of a blu-ray... even if AltiVec is used..

After all, thats exactly why hardware decoding support is now in almost every halfway modern graphics card out there, simply because 99% of the CPUs aren't fast enough or would just let crawl the system with blu-ray playback.

Note: Thats only guessing! I didn't actually calculate it as theoretical evidence. So if somebody wants, feel free to correct me..


Anyway... i think blu-ray is fairly uninteresting as data medium only if you can't watch movies of it .. there are enough other cheaper data media out there. IF we ever get a mainboard which supports technically modern graphics cards (PCIe 16x anyone?) AND IF we get drivers for those graphiccards which can enable the hardware decoding features AND IF DvPlayer learns to playback blu-ray stuff... THEN it gets insteresting and also THEN it would make sense to support writing blu-ray data. Thats just my opinion.

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Re: Recursive directory surprise
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@Paul

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Paul wrote:
[...] I couldn't delete it, even from a DOS prompt in shell, because ti still showed as having some content (the empty directory.) [...]

and

[...] I finally got rid of the nested, recursive directory problem by formatting the System: partition and then copying back the fresh drag and drop backup I had done. [...]


While I don't have an idea where this came from, i just wanted to point out that you usually can perfectly delete any directory with content, even if it's just deeply nested by using

c:delete foo ALL


The "all" switch causes c:delete to recursively enter and delete the contents of the given directory "foo".

So no need to format a partition just to get rid of a deeply nested directory. Of course, if there were some filesystem errors causing this, then c:delete might also fail with the "all" switch, but then a format can't hurt either

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Re: 7z plugin
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@Amigamancer

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Amigamancer wrote:
@Cyborg
Quote:
Why does it decrompress everything into RAM first before copying to disk?? That feels like ... well ... wrong..

Yes, IF this is what it does, it's just wrong.


Well, that is exactly what Chris said:

Quote:

Chris wrote:

[...] it decompresses completely to RAM before dumping to disk.


And as he did the 7zip plugin, he should know

Quote:

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Or is that maybe a XAD limitation? I did never use XAD in coding, so I know as much about it as about 7zip internals .. well, if it is a XAD problem, then XAD could need a revise..

I have used it to decompress big lha and old zip files, and it doesn't do that. I don't know what is the case with 7z files. If it decompress them in RAM first, i'd say it's a fault of the client, not of the XAD system.


Good. As said, i never used XAD, so I can't talk about it's inner workings and thus I had to ask that question.

So it seems Chris has a bit work to do

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Re: 7z plugin
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@Chris

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However, I suspect even with the maximum 2GB memory (some as swap partition), a 1.6GB file is going to use all that up. Both the compressed file and the decompressed data (plus some overhead) are going to come right up to the 2GB limit - it decompresses completely to RAM before dumping to disk.


Why does it decrompress everything into RAM first before copying to disk?? That feels like ... well ... wrong.. if you would be using a disk based tempory directory it would be like Windows doing everything in its damn temporary folders on one disk before copying the stuff to the actual target disk .. which slows down the overall process in 99% of cases, but OTOH does prevent the out-of-RAM option as you usually have more space on your harddisk than in RAM.. still, thats a stupid approach IMHO to do everything in a temporary place (be it a harddisk or in RAM) instead of using the actual target as far as possible.

In your case, it might seem like a good idea to first use RAM and then copy the stuff over, but as you see here, it actually isn't that good. I'd suggest to only use some smaller temporary buffers in RAM and copy stuff to disk if a buffer is full.. that would clearly remove the need for that much memory and shouldn't have any great speed impact (if you copy big enough buffers to make use of the HD capabilities.. e.g. only in >= 64KB blocks, etc.).

You may have to experiment a bit how big the RAM buffers should be.. maybe only some hundret KB each, maybe some MB each.. you can use multiple buffers and switch between them in a round robin fashion so that e.g. first buffer full, start copying and decompressing into the second buffer.. second buffer full, see if copying of first buffer is done and start copying from the second one if so, start decompressing into the third buffer (or the first one again).. you got the idea..

Of course, i don't know the inner workings of 7zip .. maybe my above suggestions aren't even practical with 7zip for whatever reason (out of interest i'd like to know them please).. but IF they are possible, you should really consider doing that change as it would make your plugin automagically work on ANY OS4 machine (maybe with at least 32, 64 or 128MB RAM) with or without a zillion GBs of RAM and SWAP .. and thus greatly improve its usefullness (thinking of nowadays archive sizes..)

Edit: Or is that maybe a XAD limitation? I did never use XAD in coding, so I know as much about it as about 7zip internals .. well, if it is a XAD problem, then XAD could need a revise..

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Re: My first iPhone app on the App Store ;-)
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@derfs

Well... err.... damn...

/me mumbles something and goes fixing that darn dates..


Thanks!

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My first iPhone app on the App Store ;-)
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Hello fellowers,

I posted this already over an amigaworld, but maybe not all of you are reading both sides and while I am in shameless self-advertising mode I'll just repost it here.. /me hides

As said I know I'm shamelessly self-advertising here, but hey.. we all have to live and I'm trying hard to do that with some iPhone coding in the last time... and also as I'm kinda proud of it, even if it isn't any killerapplication, i thought i could spread the word here and on some other fora... maybe one or another of you who own an iPhone or iPod touch will appreciate it

Well, here's the (small and preliminary) website of the tool called WakeMyRig: WakeMyRig website (CSS needed!)

And here's a direct link to the App Store which should automagically open in iTunes (if not, just search for WakeMyRig): WakeMyRig on the App Store

Oh, btw: I want to thank Mason, Elwood and Andrea for contributing the icon and translations yet again! You all took some headache points away from my todo list

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Re: Dockies with new SDK
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@centaurz

To be honest, i don't know... i'm no graphics/compositing expert. If you can provide me with a small stand-alone example code (i.e. not a docky, but a self-contained code which opens a window and draws something with the effect you are describing), I can report it to the appropriate OS component maintainers.

(yes, I know, such code isn't too hard to write, but I don't have even that time left :-/ )

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Re: Dockies with new SDK
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@centaurz

hum, isn't that exactly what it's supposed to be?

I mean, maybe i misunderstood you, but you said that a rendered image with alpha information is actually transparent where the alpha information doesn't say it's not

Of course if you render something with transparent pixels (as specified by their alpha value) it will be actually rendered transparent and you'll see whats behind it... if you don't want transparent images, don't use any alpha or set it everywhere to 0xFF ..

As said, i might have misunderstood.. in that case, please elaborate..

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Re: Roadshow
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@olsen

Thanks for the clarification regarding the IP ranges..

Quote:

olsen wrote:

- It's sometimes useful to reduce the default MTU value if you know that traffic to leave your network will always have to squeeze through a gateway which limits the size of the packets. An example is the PPPoE protocol which is widely used for ADSL services in Europe. PPPoE limits packet size to 1492 bytes payload. If you limit the MTU value in your network clients, it may mean that there will be less friction since converting between the packets that go into the router and have to come out, chopped into smaller units. Chopping up the packets in transit may result in extra traffic since some packets cannot be conveniently broken into smaller units and will have to retransmitted. This "optimization" through MTU limits may, however, accomplish nothing tangible.


hmm .. i really didn't say that a reduced MTU might not make any sense at all .. in fact i wrote exactly that 1500 is default for ethernet, but one might tinker with the MTU in certain situations, like DSL/PPPoE <= 1492. What did you say different than me? [/quote]

Your original comment asked the rhetorical question "why that funny MTU value?". I tried to give a bit of background as to why it could be useful, and that in practice it often has no discernable effect.[/quote]

My original comment was:

Quote:

- Why such a strange MTU value? For Ethernet the MTU is 1500 (for gigabit ethernet its actually up to 9000, but that isn't supported yet). Thats also true if you access the Internet through a router. Only if you are directly connected to the Internet with your Amiga (e.g. through PPPoE), you might have to worry about the MTU value and set it to something below 1492 for DSL.. but even that would Roadshow do for you with the Wizard..


So, yes, i started with "Why such a strange MTU" but then said basically the same as you did.. i just wondered why he didn't use 1492 for his setup if on DSL or 1500 if in a LAN behind a router .. anyway, i think we have a consense

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Re: Dockies with new SDK
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@Curty

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Curty wrote:
@Curty

Got it working,

case DOCKYGET_Version:
*msgData = DOCKYVERSION;
break;

was causing the problem.

In the old sdk

#define DOCKYVERSION ((uint32)((( 50 )<<16)|( 49 )))

and in the new sdk

#define DOCKYVERSION ((uint32)((( 50 )<<16)|( 50 ))
is how its defined.

I changed the code in my docky to

case DOCKYGET_Version:
*msgData = 52;
break;

and it now works so it looks like this is an sdk problem.


Unfortunately the SDK contains a newer docky.h than the one the 4.1 release of AmiDock was compiled against, hence your AmiDock is rejecting all dockies compiled with the new SDK.

For now, please just use the docky.h header and docky documentation from the old SDK and don't mess around with the version data (i.e. do NOT return something bogus like 52). We are aware of that problem now and apologize for any inconvenience :-/

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Re: Roadshow
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@Snuffy

Maybe you could first try to post some logs what exactly happens with the connection?

Just set up your connection with all details and then add something like

log=all
logfile=ram:bla

to the created connection file. Open that connection and see what it logged in ram:bla .. maybe check for any passwords or so in there (i don't know if they are also logged there) and post the log here if you didn't find an answer yourself already..

Oh, and getting a router is of course a good solution, especially if you're planning to give more than one machine internet access..

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Re: Roadshow
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@olsen

Quote:

olsen wrote:
@Cyborg

Um, some notes on this:

- It's OK to set DHCP and a static IP address in the configuration. The effect this has is to alter the DHCP exchange on the client's side. Instead of asking the DHCP server to assign an IP address and provide for information on the default gateway and the DNS servers, the client tells the server "this is my IP address, take it or leave it" and picks up whatever the server could provide. Mind you, this is not recommended unless you are certain that you need things to work like that.


While it might be OK, you say yourself that it's *not* recommended .. that's why i said he should use either DHCP or static configuration..

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- While you are free to choose the IP address range used in your local network up to a point, you should observe certain rules. The 10.*.*.* IP address range corresponds to a network address of 10 and a host address of the remaining 24 bits, which accounts for the netmask of 255.0.0.0. You should not change the netmask to 255.255.255.0 unless you are using the reserved IP address range of 192.168.*.*. Of course, mucking with the netmask works most of the time, but some software will get into hot water if the reserved IP address ranges and their corresponding default network mask values don't match.


*sigh* .. yeah, that darn 10.*.*.* IPs .. mea culpa.. i'm using 192.168.*.* only since 15 years, so i'm probably just too used to a /24 netmask.. :-/

But.. sorry if i sound dumb here, but if i follow your logic also for 192.168.*.* ... shouldn't then the correct netmask be /16 and not /24? I.e. 255.255.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.0 ?

And if i have some clients which all use an IP of the form 10.1.1.x ( 0 < x < 255), why would be a netmask of 255.255.255.0 be wrong or "not recommended" ? Maybe i have a second group of clients with 10.1.2.x as IPs but i don't want them (for whatever reason) to communicate directly with the other group.. with a netmask of 255.0.0.0 they actually could communicate directly, couldn't they?


Again, sorry if my questions sound dumb, but i'm just trying to wrap my head around your information and what i was used to until now..

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- It's sometimes useful to reduce the default MTU value if you know that traffic to leave your network will always have to squeeze through a gateway which limits the size of the packets. An example is the PPPoE protocol which is widely used for ADSL services in Europe. PPPoE limits packet size to 1492 bytes payload. If you limit the MTU value in your network clients, it may mean that there will be less friction since converting between the packets that go into the router and have to come out, chopped into smaller units. Chopping up the packets in transit may result in extra traffic since some packets cannot be conveniently broken into smaller units and will have to retransmitted. This "optimization" through MTU limits may, however, accomplish nothing tangible.


hmm .. i really didn't say that a reduced MTU might not make any sense at all .. in fact i wrote exactly that 1500 is default for ethernet, but one might tinker with the MTU in certain situations, like DSL/PPPoE <= 1492. What did you say different than me?

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Re: Roadshow
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@Snuffy

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Snuffy wrote:
@tlm

via a DSL...
I've been trying to connect with ATT DSL myself and can't. I think I'm upposed to use the 'ppp-ethernet.device' but I don't think it's compatible to newer DSL modems. The NetInterface doesn't get setup correctly. Like you, help is needed. Glad you started this thread!

Edit:
Anyone using PPPoE via DSL on their A1?


I'm not using PPPoE anymore (since a couple of years), but the setup should be fairly straight forward with the wizard.. you just have to choose "Ethernet (DSL,..)" (the second option) on the first page of the wizard..

Those labels are a bit misleading unfortunately..

Anyway, after that, you just have to chose ppc440ep_eth.device (if you are on SAM) with the correct unit number (0 for the top most port, 1 for the lower port) and enter all the details you should have got by your DSL provider .. (you can also give the the connection some arbitrary name)

In the end you should have the arbitrary named connection and a PPPoE interface of so .. don't remember exactly ... in any case you should then be able to connect via the Dialer...


If all that doesn't work, you have to provide much more info ... logs where exactly it fails etc...

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Re: Roadshow
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@tlm

You have to provide more details, otherwise its just a wild guessing session and nothing more. What i gathered from your various posts is this:

- You are in a LAN with other boxes
- All IPs are statically assigned, e.g. Router 192.168.0.1, Mac/PC .2 and the SAM shall get the .3
- Internet is accessed through a router
- With your current configuration you can't do anything with your SAM

Correct? Then follow these steps *verbatim* so we have a well defined state (Note: As i'm German, some things are probably named different for you, because i just translated from the German locale.. but you should always know what i mean):

1) Check the IPs of your other machines *including* the router and write it down for later reference
2) Check that the router doesn't provide a DHCP server so we can proceed with static configuration safely

3) Delete everthing on the SAM in DEVS:NetInterfaces/ and in SYS:Internet/Connections/
4) Reboot, just to be sure

5) Make sure your Ethernet cable is plugged into the top most or left most (depending on your SAM oriented vertically or horizontally) connector. That's unit 0 later on..
6) Start the Wizard with SYS:Internet/New Connection

7) Choose the last/third option "Router" and press "Next"
8) Choose "manual configuration" and press "Next"
9) Use the file selector right besides the "Name" label to choose "pppc440ep_eth.device", leave "Port" at 0 and press "Next"
10) Uncheck "Try dynamic configuration", enter the IP address of the SAM (e.g. 192.168.0.3 from aboves example), enter the IP address of your DSL router in "Gateway" and "DNS" fields (e.g. 192.168.0.1 from above. And yes, your DSL router is usually Gateway as well as DNS for your LAN.. if unsure, check the settings of your Mac/PC), leave the netmask at 255.255.255.0 and click "Next"
11) Now you should be at the last page of the wizard... just leave the suggested Filename (PPC440EP_ETH here) and the rest alone and click on "Finish" or whatever its named.

After some seconds a CON window should open telling you that the interface "PPC440EP_ETH" was setup with the configured IP and netmask (in our example 192.168.0.3 and 255.255.255.0). Also the wizard should open up a requester telling you that the interface was set up and that this connetion type doesn't need a PPP dial in, so it doesn't need Dialer to get online.. bla bla bla..


Congratulations! At this point you are already online and should be able to ping your other machines on the LAN as well as access the Internet. You can close the Wizard and the CON window..

To test, just open a Shell and issue a Ping command.



In the very unlikely case that something did fail, please post here the exact error (maybe a screenshot if needed).

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Re: Roadshow
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@Slayer

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Slayer wrote:
@tlm

okay from devs:

# DEVS:NetInterfaces/PPC440EP_ETH
# File generated by Dialer 52.1 (11.12.2006)
# On Friday, 09-Jan-09 at 06:55:32
device=ppc440ep_eth.device
configure=dhcp
address=10.1.1.5
netmask=255.0.0.0
mtu=1478


Wow, what a mess :p

- Why do you have *both* DHCP and an IP? Either use static OR dynamic configuration.

- You wrote that all your IPs in your LAN are 10.1.1.x ones, right? So why the heck do you then specify a netmask of 255.0.0.0 ? It shouldn't hurt, but correct would be 255.255.255.0 as netmask.

- Why such a strange MTU value? For Ethernet the MTU is 1500 (for gigabit ethernet its actually up to 9000, but that isn't supported yet). Thats also true if you access the Internet through a router. Only if you are directly connected to the Internet with your Amiga (e.g. through PPPoE), you might have to worry about the MTU value and set it to something below 1492 for DSL.. but even that would Roadshow do for you with the Wizard..

Quote:

The mtu is optional I just added that recently just incase it made a difference, I guess your configure line would = static not dhcp?


Better remove it again... or even better: ditch all your config and generate a new one with the Wizard without tinkering with it ;)

Quote:

I have altered Roadshowcontrol but then again this shouldn't matter for a case of getting you online:

...
tcp.mssdflt = 1478
...


Oh well, you didn't leave anything alone, did you?
I didn't have a look at all values, just at mssdflt because that is directly related to the MTU setting: The MSS *must* be at least 40 less than the MTU. I.e. if your MTU is 1500, the MSS must be 1460 or less. But in any case not the same.

Quote:

If something doesn't happen for you this time I'll go through the process of setting my link up again with the wizard and note down the steps taken to get online


Seeing the things above you probably should really do that and not mess around with the settings if you don't absolutely need to... and reading a bit up on them in Wikipedia or so wouldn't hurt either

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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@sundown

Quote:

I get an output thats not in English. Below is just a small text output I get when run.

...
[AppDockClass.c] mNew: Entrato
...


Edit: I just saw that MUIA_AppDock_AppName .. so, it isn't an application docky but something else... i don't know a MUI class called AppDock... so i think it might still be part of some 3rd party application you are running.

Here's my old answer for reference (though, it probably isn't correct in your case):
This "AppDockClass.c" indicates that this comes from some application docky. I.e. some app you are running creates a docky on the fly after started. The app coder forgot to remove the debug output it seems..

In any case, that is of course no bug and for sure not a bug of OS4. Case closed.

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Please remove this file
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Hi Orgin,

Please remove this file from os4depot:

http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?fun ... r/network/rtl81x9_dev.lha

The Realtek drivers are part of OS4 and the above one is only a very ancient version anyway which i published before becoming part of the OS4 team.

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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@Chris

Quote:

As for the corrupt memory sticks thing, I think whoever mentioned file comments hit the nail on the head. I've been careful to remove file comments or copy through the shell (copy command defaults to not copying comments for some inexplicable reason) since this came up, and haven't had a single problem.

The downloading AWeb and copying across test would seem to confirm this: The AWeb archive is almost certainly going to have a file comment when it is downloaded, but won't have any other oddities (fairly normal name, although goes over 8.3 limit, not particulary large etc)


So, does that mean you can reproducable trash your memory stick contents via crossdos if you copy files on it with filecomments?

If so, please verify that once again just to be sure and post a small step-by-step guide here which i can hand over to Heinz Wrobel.

If possible, without any 3rd party software like AWeb.. ie. in a shell copy some files without comments, no problem.. then copy one file with file comment, contents are garbled.

Thank you.

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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@Chris

Quote:

Chris wrote:
This is a cracking one!

Open a shell and type the following:

rx "address workbench 'window s:shell open'"

-> Displays S:Shell as expected, in "show only icons" view.

Activate the new window and press alt+up

-> Displays the parent, also in "show only icons" view.

Activate the new window, and choose "Show => all files" from the Window menu.

-> Shows all the files... except the Shell drawer.
If you put it in view by name mode, there is a little gap where Shell should be!


Until this point i can reproduce your report. I'll file a bugreport against workbench.library. Thank you!

Quote:

Even better - go into SYS: and the S directory has also disappeared!

They won't reappear until you close all the child windows, no matter what you do.


That i can't reproduce.. but doesn't matter as there rest is enough for a bugreport..


Edited by Cyborg on 2009/1/7 16:18:38
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@ZeroG

Quote:

ZeroG wrote:
Do you remember where is was reported?


It was on the OS4 beta list. Maybe just open a new thread here on amigans and ask, somebody should know..

Quote:

I can reproduce it with 3 different USB-"disks" on my A1 and my SAM, and i dont have any problems if i use SFS instead of CrossDOS.

It wound be a big step forward if i had to use md5sum to find a error.


So are that "disks" really disks as in harddisks or do you mean USB massstorage devices in general like harddisks, USB sticks, etc.?

Quote:

I simply have to copy a few files to a fresh formated USB-Disk and the next time i open the root directory most of the filenames have changed to something like ?%(&iidd8, the timestamps and filesizes have changed and it shows directories, but i dont have created/copied a single directory.


Interesting. I had that ages ago also sometimes, but that was with older crossdos versions and as said above, today i couldn't spot any problem.

Abalaban's idea isn't that bad actually. Try if this corruption also happens if you just copy plain US-ASCII named files. If not, see if the corruption occurs if you use Umlauts or spaces or long filenames, etc.

Thinking about it, today i just tried with directories/files in US-ASCII only (my SDK installation)... so maybe thats really a valid point. I'll see that i find the time for some more tests tomorrow.

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I could make a 1:1 image using rawdisk from my 512MB USB-Stick if you want to have a look at it.


Thanks for the offer, but i'm really not into filesystems, so i probably couldn't do much with it. But Heinz Wrobel is still active and fixes bugs if there are any, so if we find a solid way to reproduce the corruption i'll happily file a bugreport for Heinz.

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