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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@whiteQuote:
white wrote:here I made a test using only the -cpu G3
for me it is a new very fast emulation.

I have not yet "assembled" the whole OS 4.1 system to use it definitively.

But here I did some tests with Scumm Grim Fandango etc.
Internet some TwitchTV music and other things with E-UAE

But I'm very happy it's really nice for me to see that 4.1 is usable now.

I plan to dedicate an SSD partition to it now that sfs works.

https://youtu.be/T4jRjC_4iO4


Your workbench looks a bit chaotic

Thanks for the video it still clearly shows how fast the whole thing runs. And don't worry about the current problems that are still there, many things have already been improved and there will be some more.

As already mentioned I use Qemu under MacOs and here there is no pulseaudio or so but coreaudio, but I will also do some tests if I can reproduce the errors under my system.

Could you explain me again how you set up twitch tv under AmigaOs4.1 ?

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@smarkusg

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smarkusg wrote:@white

Let me know on priv so as not to litter the forum.

Thank you very much for your help


Don't worry, we are already in the emulations column and since it is an emulation it should be okay to share our experiences here.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@smarkusgQuote:
smarkusg wrote:@white

I compiled the e-uae versions for you from this repository -> https://github.com/khval/e-uae-1-0-0/tree/catweasel

It should work for you on a QEMU g4 with SDL.

The e-uae itself on *Linux is much slower than fs-uae, so don't expect miracles under QEMU.


Thanks for compiling, I will test it later.

I would be much more interested in what you left out of your compiled build to solve the problem.

What changes did you make or omit from this build?

In the Youtube video it looks very slow indeed...maybe you didn't compile the JIT translator or the SDLGFX drivers?

I am sure we can solve the problem.

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Re: 2023 - May - Space Invaders
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@smarkusgQuote:
smarkusg wrote:The challenge does not work on Qemu with G4. Maybe there is a competitor who can break the record on Qemu ?

I am uploading an SDL shared library that bypasses the SDL1.x problem under Qemu.
File to be swapped in SObjs. Please make a backup of the libSDL-1.2.so library.
It should also work on a real Amiga but is compiled under a trosty graphics card.

Additionally:
LEFT ALT + ENTER - minimise
RIGHT ALT +ENTER -fullscreen/window

SDL from the repository -> https://github.com/AmigaPorts/SDL-1.2
File ->. https://we.tl/t-voINben0pS


Have fun


You are good my friend I almost read over it, it solves more problems under Qemu/Peg2 with SDL 1.x. You did well. I would like to port some things to AmigaOs4.1 myself, but I need some help for that.

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Space Invaders now works perfectly with your new sdl1.2 library.

Thanks for your support.


Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/21 20:54:56
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@whiteQuote:
white wrote:@all

anyone use E-UAE with qemu ?
which version do you use?


I did some simple tests with E-Uae under AmigaOs4.1 and I think that E-Uae SDL seems to be the fastest at the moment.

But I can't say exactly, I haven't had time to set up a proper configuration under AmigaOs4.1 with E-UAE.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@white

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white wrote:I would like to make a long video just to show in a practical way what happens in the use of the whole more "technical" system to further improve the emulation.
I imagine further changes to "SDL" may bring other emulation benefits.

But I wonder who is interested ?
Before you do


Knowing your crazy videos I would personally like it. It would be interesting to see what is currently possible and how well or badly it runs to encourage other interested parties to test it.

But it should not be too crazy and maybe only show the pure usage of AmigaOs4.1 under Qemu Peg2.

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Re: SuperMario64 port to OS4 anyone?
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@rjd324

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rjd324 wrote:Yes, the linked issue wrt. sound was the fix.

Thanks to the work of BeWorld, Sinan, Capehill (the list goes on!) and the importance of historical posts we have a working binary.

I am just sure on the legality of uploading the static binary... Anyone?


I would like to test the sm64 build. Is there a way where I can download it ?

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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@RazielQuote:
Raziel wrote:@Maijestro

Double check that you have write access to your saves dir, check with other engines/games as well.
The error simply means that scummvm tried to save (it's timestamps file used to provide current time for savefies), but couldn't.


Ok I see, I created a new path for save files in the global settings save states and have created a new folder "Save" the default directory of ScummVM did not work. With the new storage folder and path to this folder it works.

Thank you very much now I can save my progress.

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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@Raziel

Under ScummVM I'm playing "The Dig" it's really a great game with very good voice output, I was already relatively far and wanted to save my progress, unfortunately the game does not save and there is an error message.

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Do you have any idea what this might be?

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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@RazielQuote:
Raziel wrote:@Maijestro

The engine tops at 60 FPS (throttled).

Your figures are amazing, given it performs on sw mode (probably the strong underlying cpu)
I reach roughly 60 FPS in videos and 15 to 30 FPS in-game, so your experience should be perfectly fine.


Ok thanks for the feedback, then it is indeed impressive and also the 16 bit mode software was not in vain.

Qemu is not only an emulation some parts are natively translated that probably makes it pleasant to use.

I am glad that I can use this software pearl under AmigaOs4.1, ScummVM is a must have under AmigaOs4.1

Thanks again for the fast help and the implementation. I am glad that I got help from some developers.

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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@mr2

Once again a short video of Grim Fandango with the FPS counter turned on. Unfortunately, I can't judge whether this is good or bad. Since I don't own an AmigaNG I can't compare.

Did you run it in software mode or with 3D acceleration?





Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/20 18:36:07
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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@RazielQuote:
Raziel wrote:@Maijestro

I was about to ask for a speed test on the Grim engine, thank you.

It looks snappy nonetheless being run in software mode.
Glad that it performs so well


It runs really well, considering that it runs in 16 bit software. Some games also run very well in full screen stretched, it gets a little slower, but still playable. I am positively surprised that it goes so well, I would not have expected.

I hope someone will write a graphics card driver in the future to be able to use 32 bit screens. Qemu is optimized for 32 bit output.

Anyway, your latest build works perfectly without any limitations even under Qemu/Peg2 AmigaOs4.1 FE. So far I could not find any bugs and everything works as it should with ScummVM under AmigaOs4.1.

Thanks a lot

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@walkeroQuote:
walkero wrote:@Maijestro
Do you have something different from my network configuration? I also tried to set a MAC address, in case that helped, but nothing. It seems like the problem is not from the OS4 but from QEmu.

Is anyone else having the same issue?


You can try it via vmnet it is a bit more direct but also requires sudo rights.

-netdev vmnet-bridged,id=net0,ifname=en0 -device rtl8139,netdev=net0

You may have to reinstall it on Linux and I'm not sure how it's done, but please try that.


The network over vmnet under linux is of course nonsense as this only works under MacOs, sorry.


Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/20 19:39:54
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@walkero

We could investigate the problem further, but we would need someone running a real Pegasos 2 with an rtl8139 network card to rule out the driver under AmigaOs4.1, but finding this configuration will be very difficult.

Otherwise the only way is to debug it via Qemu to get more information.

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Re: LiteXL v2.1.0 is released
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@walkero

I've been able to test LiteXL extensively over the past few days, it's really good.

But I have one more question about the use, I would like to place LiteXL is AmiDock permanently, unfortunately this editor does not support drag and drop from AmiDock if I drag text files directly onto the LiteXL icon. I assume that requires wide adjustments to make it available?

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Re: Closed: AmigaOS 4.x hardware vs emulation survey
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I would also comment briefly on the issue.

Preliminary:

A very long time ago I owned an AmigaOneXE myself, at that time AmigaOs4 was only available in the pre-release version and only limited usable, programs like IBrowse, DOpus, SimpleMail, Yam and many others were only available in a 68k version. Nevertheless I had a lot of fun with the machine and there are nice memories.

1 year later and before AmigaOs4.0 was final I had to sell my AmigaOne because of financial difficulties. The re-entry with Amiga hardware was later no longer for me and I started to buy Pc's and finally a Mac Studio which I currently use, because I did not get along with Window and not only wanted to gamble.

Because the Mac Studio has an ARM CPU I started to work on the emulation of AmigaOs4.1, the try with WinUae failed too slow and there was no native version for MacOs. But because I wanted to try AmigaOs4.1 I didn't give up and learned about the Qemu Sam460/Pegasos2 project 03.09.2022. Unfortunately at the moment also very unusable under Mac M1, graphic errors, no sound, no internet.

So I quickly got in touch with BALATON Zoltan who helped me to make Qemu usable with AmigaOs4.1, that whole took about 6 months of testing and development to today's result that I think often could already present in my videos. Even though there are many things that still bother me about AmigaOs4.1 I like to use it and it gives me a lot of pleasure to use it.

Since I do not want to put a second computer in my living room and I currently prefer very small computers, I have found the perfect solution with the Mac. Sure Qemu is not the solution to real hardware, but I'm glad that I can use AmigaOs4.1 under this currently fastest emulation, sometimes I even forget that I'm using an emulation as soon as the full screen is used

Let's come to the end:

Also users who run AmigaOs4.1 via an emulation can be potential buyers, I currently have 3 licenses and I have already bought software that I think is good (Enhancer, Emotion, Ztools) I also became aware of this forum because I was told that some AmigaOs4.1 developers are still gathering here and yes it's true the people were right, there was already a lot of help in the short time I was registered here (MilkyTracker/SDL2/ ScummVM/LiteXL) all these problems have already been adjusted for this "still" limited emulation with AmigaOs4.1 and I just wanted to say thank you again for that.

Sorry that's become a lot of text, but I just wanted to explain briefly how I came back to AmigaOs4.1 after almost 20 years.

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Re: MorphOS 3.18 is out
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I got to know this forum only recently on recommendation since it is known for AmigaOs4.1 developers and I got a lot of help even if I currently use AmigaOs4.1 under an emulation.

I also think that MorphOs developments and also notifications should not be here in this forum.

Personally I have nothing against MorphOs, I have tested it myself, unfortunately I was very dissatisfied with it, it reminded me too much of Linux. This is not to say that it is a bad operating system, on the contrary, MorphOs seems very modern in many respects.

However I feel more comfortable with AmigaOs4.1 and since I had an Amiga a1200/AmigaOneXe with AmigaOs3.0/4PreRelease a long time ago I feel more familiar with AmigaOs4.1 than with MorphOs.

Just my personal opinion.

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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@RazielQuote:
Raziel wrote:@Maijestro

Nice, thanks fir testing, time to create a PR


I'm looking forward to the next version, thanks for solving a few problems.

Again a short video how the whole thing runs under Qemu AmigaOs4.1, I just wanted to tell you that the 16 bit mode (software) was not a waste of time and even complex games run well. Of course no comparison to 3d acceleration. ScummVM supports many good games and I'm glad I can use it, thanks again for that.





Your latest pre-release build 18.05.2023 is now running perfectly, the first time you start ScummVM the .ini file is created and the full screen is started. All settings work and adding games and running them works very well.

Good job thanks


Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/15 18:36:18
Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/19 10:21:35
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@walkeroQuote:
walkero wrote:@Maijestro


[quote]Are you able to stream online radio or video just fine?


hmm strange I have no problems with the internet and streaming. I made you a little video it works very well here at the moment.




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Re: ScummVM and AmigaOS4.1 F.E.
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@Raziel

Good job !

The first start of ScummVM is executed in fullscreen and the .ini file is created, about the Gui I can then set all the settings that are needed.

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I can't use plugins with this version even if I set the paths to the plugins from ScummVM that I already have. But it is not a problem since this is a test version.


Edited by Maijestro on 2023/5/14 19:58:13
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