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Re: New OS4 user
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"Never, ever, ever use pre-OS4 versions of installer..."

Would it be possible to have a commodity to protect user from accidentally running those harmfull programs/installers/scripts?

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: 440ep Vs 460ex
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@corto

It's very interesting that AOS4 uses less power on idle than Linux! !!

I love efficient way of operating.

- Kimmo
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Re: Lack of progress
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While we wait ...
interesting that also IBM seems to invest in Gallium3D... (or something).
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5OTM
"IBM's Porting Gallium3D LLVMpipe To PowerPC"

(more interesting reads, perhaps)

(&dreaming of GPU computing)

@Fairdikem

IIRC, 9250 is R200 based and Gallium3D supports R300 forward.
"Gallium3D additionally requires a level of shader support that is not available on older cards like e.g. ATi r100-r200"

Chip vs card:(Radeon wiki)


Edited by KimmoK on 2013/2/13 13:34:49
Edited by KimmoK on 2013/2/13 13:38:19
- Kimmo
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Re: The Revenge of the Qt Demo Browser
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"QT apps run in aceptable speed on arm devices at 600 mhz (the same power as pentium 2 500 mhz)."

They say Rasdberry pi @ 700Mhz has the CPU performance of 300MHz Pentium 2, so are you sure about "your" 600Mhz performance?

" Why so slow on sam 667 mhz that is in the same range of power if not more?
"

As said, HW acceleration. And some ARM chips have a working L2 (SAM440ep 667Mhz does not). (btw. pi uses L2 only for GPU)

(also my 600Mhz cell phone has ok web speed, surely because GPU helps and the code is heavily optimized by mainstream SW developers)

- Kimmo
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Re: I.... hate AmiDock...!
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I wonder what is required to get push4dock updated etc....

- Kimmo
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Re: Lack of progress
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I do not touch OS internal doings. Just third party apps and programs.

- Kimmo
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Re: Lack of progress
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I think it's the Amiga way to give user the control to finetune the OS behaviour unlike on any other OS.

OS can not know how I prefer running programs. Some apps I want to be realtime and some I prefer to run in the background when there is idle CPU time. And sometimes I might want to set DVD playback to be in realtime, sometimes not. And I do not want to manually reset everything after reboot, like on most other OSs.

Anyway, found it:
"The reserved Tool Types are TOOLPRI=n (sets the Exec task priority at which Workbench will start the application)"
Starting to like the wiki!

(and for dos guys & gals: http://amiga.sourceforge.net/amigadev ... up=AmigaDOS&action=Search)


Edited by KimmoK on 2013/2/6 11:40:16
- Kimmo
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Re: Lack of progress
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"The current version just slows down my system and other applications too much to make everyday use of TW. My pointer even gets jerky or freezes while TW is loading."

Jerky pointer is "too easy" to do on AOS4.

That reminded me that I'm not fully aware how I set application priorities on AOS4.

(I only remmber the executive way.)

Perhaps also other people need memory refresh on that?

Is it via icon/tooltypes/? ?

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: New Games possible?
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@oolite

One day I should start thread about it on the new dev site, unless no-one else does it in the meanwhile.
If I one day manage to try some game porting, oolite would be my big challenge.
(I still think Elite 1 (oolite is not too far off) is the best game in the world so far. )

Thread at AW.


And I was not aware of the Pioneer game project. Also that is interesting.

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: Will IBrowse v2.5 ever be released?
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btw. today I noticed that www.verkkokauppa.com is very fast in IBrowse. Looks bad and may not work 100%, but interesting how much faster it is on 666Mhz & IB than on 3800+ & Firefox. Nice to use to get some PC component price in a few seconds.

UPDATE...

Try to browse images via google.
IB is superb fast also there (javascript disabled etc it can be stable even)


Edited by KimmoK on 2013/1/13 20:43:38
- Kimmo
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Re: Will IBrowse v2.5 ever be released?
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68k Ibrowse is my main browser on AOS4 HW.
It is the fastest for me and sites like AW, os4depot, aminet.net, etc. works fully with it. I could pay for even faster native PPC version.

btw. it would be nice to have option to open some link to MUIOWB, netsurf or TW from IB.

btw. does amigans.net work fully on 68k Amiga?

- Kimmo
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Re: ScreenMode Prefs problem
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I have SAM440ep-mini and I use 1920x1080 60hz resolution via DVI.

But I can not recommend it.
When compositing is enabled one can use only 16bit display on WB and also then one runs out of VRAM (64MB) very easily.
32bit works, but even a single application often gets the system out of VRAM.

And it seems HW acceleration does not work reliably if less than half of the VRAM is free.

And low VRAM situations tend to cause crash or lockup pretty fast.

As an end result, I'm considering moving to lower resolution but with more colors.

Related thread: the thread
(remember to use the reduce blanking (+RB) with fullHD display)


(monitor detection never worked for me fully, not with any monitor and with any OS, manually as much as possible is my way...)

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: USB audio
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USB audio would be usefull for miniature & ultra cheap PPC HW.

Another thing worth playing with is audio via xcore.
-USB audio can be used with external USB xcore kit.
-Xena could do audio (if SB600's 8? channels are not enough)
-IIRC, there is design where XS1-L2 does 8in+8out channels

Yet another area to explore, the audiochip of RadonHD GFX cards.
-it could enable compatible audio for any+every PPC board with RadeonHD GPU with HDMI out.
-my CommunityComputer idea (100eur board & 200eur system) would then have nice audio ... hehe.

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: Porting wxWidgets blog -- portingwx.blogspot.com
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"And what nice software uses wx?"

Every application in the mainstream?

- Kimmo
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Re: Radeon 9259 PCI - Radeon HD 6450 comparison - Sam440
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I assume the test is done on a 66Mhz PCI slot of a SAM440ep-FLEX?

I think I have not seen anyone reporting using SAM440ep-mini + RadeonHD combination. Especially not with dual display setup (M9 also operating).

- Kimmo
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Re: Lack of progress
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@tfrieden

I wish you all the best & speedy recovery.


+Thank you for letting us know!

- Kimmo
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Re: OS4 netbook!
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To my understanding the netbook was going to be produced and sold by third party OEM. So, I believe some if not all of the funding for the port should come from that direction.

So in the end, it's not just up to Hyperion to announce further netbook news and possible reason for delays might also be from outside.

"They could have gone for the powerbook as there is no competition on the laptop marked. Since acube and aeon only have desktops."

There is no documentation for any powerbook HW, that's why it should be a lot more work to support some PowerBook model than LimeBook. It took more than four years (for MOS Team) to build support for some rare PowerBook models.

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: My beloved Minimig was a victim of the flood
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@Liveforit

CRC would leave thin oily cover on the board and components.

(btw... I should try with some dumbster PWB to see how usable CRC is in the practice, in case I have some real water spill situation happening one day.)

- Kimmo
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"PowerPC Operating Systems can use a microkernel architecture with all it�s advantages yet without the cost of slow context switches." - N. Blachford
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Re: My beloved Minimig was a victim of the flood
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My panic action would be to dry all loose water with towel.
Then cover it fully with CRC 5-56.
Then see if further cleaning is needed.
try to power it up (days later) after I see no visible drops or dirt.

http://www.crcind.com/wwwcrc/tds/TCA3%205-56.PDF

But be aware, I'm 100% unsure if it would help.

- Kimmo
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Re: Timberwolf RC3 available
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To me it seems Fridens have now hands full of "freetime" projects beside the "work" with Gallium and other AOS4 (SMP) tasks.

And to me it also seems that there might not be huge changes in TW untill AOS4.2 is available to offer better HW acceleration etc...

but anyway, updates to TW would be welcome.
(same for other main browsers)

- Kimmo
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