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Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/13 16:30 #4581

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@Snuffy

Heh, sorry, it wasn't easy to read from your post what you
actually tried to do ...

Sorry for trying to help

People are dying.
Entire ecosystems are collapsing.
We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.
And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.
How dare you!
– Greta Thunberg

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/11 8:50 #4582

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@LyleHaze

Quote:

OK, getting you going..
...

Thanks for the hints, will try asap

Quote:

re:Adding support to SCUMM.. I looked over the source. It looks like it won't be too hard to do, but I have no clue how to test it. Does SCUMM come with any apps that I can use to check for MIDI support? So far I only Downloaded the source archive.

You need a game that makes use of MIDI hardware/emulation
and plays it music/sound thru MIDI to test.

That would be the best solution imo

Luckily there is one game available which a) is supported
by ScummVM and b) freely available for download on the
ScummVM site: Flight of the Amazon Queen
(You need to scroll down a little, there are different versions,
but i believe the disk version [6.7MB] should be sufficient.
I'd gladly betatest with my CD based versions, of course!)

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Another option is for me to write the code and then pass it on to a SCUMM developer, but they would need MIDI gear, or Showkeys.

You probably need to add your code to ScummVM's patch tracker
anyway, otherwise the devs will regret it most surely.

Then you have the following options:

chat.freenode.net
channel: #scummvm

ask sev and tell him i sent you

or

The ScummVM forums
You can ask anything and they are very fast and helpful

or

you can simply pass me the request and i'll forward it to
one of the main devs...

But i think it would be better if you'd talk coder to coder...

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/10 21:40 #4583

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@lylehaze

I received the MT-32 yesterday...sadly without a power adapter.
(I "borrowed" one from my brother which worked but is awfully
loud - guess i have to get me a new one) and with the wrong
sized audio cables (it needs 6.3mm Cinch, i have 3.5) Grrr

Anyway, i just sent in a MIDI song thru DG_MIDIPlayer and it
(the player) actually started counting down the seconds (which
it didn't before when i tried and had NO MT-32 installed on the
GamePort - back then it just silently quit), so i guess it's
finding the hardware?

Although there is no display change in the hardwares display.
Have to check further, when i get my cables...

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/10 21:25 #4584

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@Snuffy

Eh, you may point your question to @Rigo

I'm just the one that drives him crazy

Regarding your question, i assume you have downloaded tha
latest AmiUpdate_upd archive?

There was no icon for AutoInstall and thus no real program
saved which should start it. Notepad is the default on your
system, which is used everytime a program is not specified.

IconX crashed, because it cannot work with Installer files

Change the program to "Installer" instead of IconX and off you go...

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/10 18:26 #4585

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@LyleHaze

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All of this assumes that your scummVM program is opening camd.library..

To give you an idea what ScummVM is...

I don't code it, i'll do the port (sometimes), maybe i can
even interest you in adding camd.lib support, if nothing helps?

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/10 17:25 #4586

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@Rigo

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Is this only when using a theme? Have you tried it with the GUI defaults?

I will try that.

Just one more info, funnily this only adapts to when a new
download is available, say when the field is already
checkmarked due to a doenload available.
After the download i get the same field (with the same
information on whats available) EMPTY and fully drawn (if i
now checkmark it it works correctly - WHY i get that second
unchecked field after download, is beyond me, though)

Quote:

/me runs after Raziel screaming...:)

AAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhh

edit:

Original theme:

Aqua theme:

As you can see the Aqua theme is a "liitle" better due to
some changes in GUI prefs, but still cut

Edited by Raziel on 2007/10/10 21:34:21

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/9 9:37 #4587

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@Rigo

Cool

btw, the "cut-in-half" checkmark button when an update is
available is still there

/me runs

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/9 9:36 #4588

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@LyleHaze

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Yes, that is correct.
If it doesn't open CAMD, then CAMD won't work with it.

Exception: In the early days of CAMD there was only "in.0" and "out.0", both from the builtin serial port.

If the program tries to open camd.library and will only connect to "out.0", then yes, you CAN use OS4 camd.. You only have to use the "MidiThru" shell command like this:

midithru out.0 via686.out.0

That command will "create" out.0 and feed everything coming into it to via686.out.0

All of this assumes that your scummVM program is opening camd.library..

Then is most defintitely won't work as ScummVM cannot know
about CAMD.library from Amigaland...hmmm

Still, ScummVM relies on the system it runs on to provide a
"default" MIDI port to be opened and use this, so it should
be possible to simply open up the MIDI port with a little
program, then start ScummVM and see if it spits something
out.

I'll try the midithru command you mentioned

Is there a little command that opens via686.out.0?

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/8 23:51 #4589

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@LyleHaze

So, what your saying basically is

If a program does't know about camd it can't use MIDI?

e.g. ScummVM has no possibility to choose the MIDI driver
to explicitely speak to. It just assumes there is a default
one set and tries to use that one.

Hmm, seems i have to wait for the hardware and try...

Thanks for the clarification

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Raziel

Posted on: 2007/10/8 18:45 #4590

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@salass00

Ahh, so THATS why there wasn't any Wesnoth updates

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Raziel

Re: Let's make TuneNet plugins!

Posted on: 2007/10/8 18:42 #4591

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@curty

It would be awesome if you (as the uncrowned god of TuneNet
plugins) could share the source of one of your plugins with
this thread, so that beginners will get the opportunity to
have a head start...

edit: spotty beat me to it

Maybe even a little HowTo?

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Raziel

Re: CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/8 17:59 #4592

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@Ricossa

I don't seem to find that Prefs Program you referring to
Neither in CAMD.lha, camd_tools.lha or the driver dir...

But that would be exactly what i am looking for

thanks for the hint

edit: Found it!

...now, impatiently waiting for the hardware to arrive and
for time to spend on it...

Edited by Raziel on 2007/10/8 18:28:59
Edited by Raziel on 2007/10/8 18:39:17
Edited by Raziel on 2007/10/8 18:39:55

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/8 17:55 #4593

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@Rigo

Quote:

If you run the program normally, iconify, uniconify and quit, there is no corruption?

Right

Quote:

But if you start the program iconified, uniconify and quit, the palette gets corrupted?

Exactly

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Raziel

Re: Icon 'Wunschkonzert'

Posted on: 2007/10/8 16:29 #4594

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@Mason

Note to self: Quit stealing time from valuable developers

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Raziel

Re: Icon 'Wunschkonzert'

Posted on: 2007/10/8 15:59 #4595

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@Mason

I know the rules say "One request per member", but as i saw
that you took HD icons onto your list, i'd like to bend the
rules a litte, if i may?

I'm really missing a Tools and Temp HD icon (these are the
two still missing from your awesome HD icons package)

Of course, if you'd put the request on the bottom of your
list, i'd still be happy

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Raziel

Re: Which udma mode are you using?

Posted on: 2007/10/8 15:55 #4596

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@Swoop

idetool just covers all possible units you maybe can use
with more modern hardware/pci cards (maybe useable with
upcoming drivers?).

I got these lines too with my onboard ide, but cut them out
for readability

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Raziel

CAMD, OS4 and MIDI hardware

Posted on: 2007/10/8 14:39 #4597

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I got me a Roland MT-32 MIDI hardware and am now looking for
someone to lend me a hand in installing it properly.

Hardware-wise all is done, i have the cables and the module
hooked up properly.

Most of all i like to know where i can set and save the
default MIDI device for the system (and third party programs)
to see (so that i don't have to choose the device everytime
i boot into Workbench again?)

I like to use it mainly (for now) as a sound enhancement in
ScummVM, but am looking for further possible usage, of course.

Any help greatly appreciated

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Raziel

Re: Only in PC World.

Posted on: 2007/10/8 14:25 #4598

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@Mikey_C

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...kill off the product

Hmm, i don't know, isn't a "Ballmer" on the endangered species list?
(You know, "Ape Boy"...)

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/8 10:27 #4599

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@Rigo

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OK, as we now know, this is related to being started iconified, so can you run the program normally, then iconify it, uniconify it, then quit. Is the corruption back again?

Nope, no messed up colors, running as expected...strange

Quote:

Also, which iconify method do you use? Icon, menu, or both?

My ToolTypes on AmiUpdate:
Quote:

(NOGFX)
SERVER = www.amiupdate.net
EMAILADDRESS=myemail@dress
STARTICONIFIED
MENU
SCANDELAY = 60
KEEPUNPACKED
(NOAUTOUPDATE)
LOGFILE = RAM:t/au.log
(PGP=pgpv)
(VERBOSE)

NOTE: STARTICONIFIED is () out for now

As you can see, i wrongly assumed that MENU is a useable
ToolType which is not (as i'm now aware of after RTFM).

I ought to use ICONIFYAS=MENU to make it work that way!?

I don't know which method is used when i leave out ICONIFYAS
and only use STARTICONIFIED but i assume MENU isn't used
then and only the icon remains?
(I can't see it in the Tools menu anyway using this method)

So, to sum it up, i only have the icon on Workbench when i
STARTICONIFIED

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Raziel

Re: Make AmiUpdate part of OS4?

Posted on: 2007/10/8 0:41 #4600

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@Rigo

Internet is up and running (don't have AmiUpdate in
WBStarup anymore) when AU is started.

Regardless of starting it from Icon (double click) or from
AmiDock Icon (click)...after closing it, the corruption
comes up for whatever program i choose

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