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Re: Some questions regarding OS4 for Classic Amigas

Posted on: 2007/10/26 11:29 #41

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@TetiSoft

I guess it was Stephane who did the CSPPC driver?
If someone got him hardware, would he be willing to
do the driver?

IMO that driver is quite important for the A1200.. All other
options are really slow..

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Two new features

Posted on: 2007/10/16 18:00 #42

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@orgin

What about adding a search by date.
Or even search by author?

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Playing CDs with AmigaAMP

Posted on: 2007/10/3 1:22 #43

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@Jack

I don't think there's much overhead using sndfile.library.
16bit 44.1KHz stereo files aren't that demanding to
stream. As I wrote before, 1411Kbit/s about 140Kb/s.
Compare this to video files and you'll notice this is
no more than 1/4 of the bandwidth. Also the audio is
uncompressed so the CPU hardly has to do anything
when the system uses DMA.

Yes you can use the analog playback if you like.
It doesn't use the CPU at all, that's certainly a plus.
If playCD crashes the CD will continue to play though.

But if you hook up your computer to some serious HiFi
equipment you would probably want to send it out
fully digital. Even on cheaper HiFi systems it's preferable
to output digitally. Unless you have a really really good
soundcard.

Sound output should not be noisier, maybe a problem
with the sound player? Or atleast its plugin/datatype?

Also when controlling the CD drive with applications like
PlayCD you will not have the option of using a equalizer.
The sound is directed to the sound chip bypassing the
system.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Playing CDs with AmigaAMP

Posted on: 2007/10/2 21:59 #44

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@Jack

Yes, ineffective it might be but OS4 hardware does not
support digital input if I recall. So the sound quality may
suffer. CD input is only analog on A1 hardware.

There does exist a digital input but it doesn't work or
isn't supported if I recall my conversations with DaveAE
correctly. On ?A1-C anyway. Sound cards may be different.

IMO to read it digitally and send it out digitally is
the best way of preserving the audio quality.
Btw I don't think streaming CDDA audio (1411Kbit/s) is
that demanding on the system.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: RAID and AmigaOS 4.0

Posted on: 2007/10/2 21:50 #45

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Does OS4 even have any drivers for hardware that supports
hardware RAID?
What about the SCSI or IDE/SATA drivers?

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Harry

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samwel

Posted on: 2007/10/2 21:46 #46

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@ssolie

How do you know?

Proove it!

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Harry

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samwel

Re: strange behaviour

Posted on: 2007/10/2 2:24 #47

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@Jack

Poltergeist?

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Last batch of icons . . .

Posted on: 2007/9/29 7:22 #48

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@klesterjr

Really fine work you have done. Classy is The word I would
I would use to describe them.

Keep it up!

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Basilisk 2

Posted on: 2007/9/28 5:34 #49

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@Hans

I think the graphics works in intel mode not the actual 68k emulation.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Make CD

Posted on: 2007/9/26 1:54 #50

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@samo79

..and it's not that user friendly as you might think.

I can think of atleast 5 burner programs on other
platforms which have much better and user friendlier
GUI. But FryingPan is more user friendly than MakeCD
to the same extent than other platforms burner
programs are to FryingPan.

For example why not steal the wizard system from
Nero and implement a similar type to FryingPan.
Simply choose Data, Video, Audio and subtypes and
the GUI sets you up automatically. When you've added
your files simply press burn and everything works.

This is quite ok in FryingPan but nowhere near as
straight forward as in Nero.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: OS4 vs OS3.9

Posted on: 2007/9/19 22:41 #51

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@rachy

Quote:

Actually, it outperforms 68060/50MHz on 604/200MHz most of the time and 68040/40 every time.

Heh as I said.. outperforms a 020/14MHz quite easily.

Too bad more people aren't able to use your great emulator.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Your avatar!

Posted on: 2007/9/17 2:32 #52

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I chose my because I love this unlucky little animal from the
Ice Age movies.

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Harry

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samwel

Rogue check your PM!

Posted on: 2007/9/16 5:21 #53

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I have a very important message to you.

It's about me selling my ?A1-C and needing to change
account name. Sorry for doing it the PM way but I couldn't
get my e-mail account to send you a mail. I got a error
mail, about not being able to send the message, back all
four tries.

@Amigans staff

Sorry for posting this but I need Rogue to see this. He has
told himself that he can miss PM's so it's better to email him.
Now that this doesn't work I need to contact him somehow.
This seems the best way to me.

Thanks for having oversight this one time.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: OS4 vs OS3.9

Posted on: 2007/9/7 8:50 #54

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@AmiGubbe

Quote:

That wont happen to the custom chips?

No. All custom chips are used by OS4.

OS4 has got a very high performing 68k emulator which
I guess easily out performs a 68020@14MHz even on a
604 +200Mhz PPC.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/7 2:14 #55

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@Atheist

Hehe you talk like I did 1994. Back then I was a fanatic
Amiga fan aswell, "everything Amiga do is better".

Too bad that isn't true anymore, and probably hasn't
been for atleast 15 years.
I grew up and got a more open mind to things. Windows
doesn't suck anymore (without having tested it before).

XP is actually usable and supports everything I want. It
simply works. That doesn't mean I want better things or
dislike Amiga. I actually like the control Amiga OS gives
me.

You can't seriously mean that we shouldn't use MP
because we should be different???
If MP doesn't cause bloat or make the OS less responsive
and offer you a virtual enviroment for classic software,
so what's the problem???

Sounds to me you're more into retro computing and not
OS4 and more modern stuff. I mean keeping the
hardware and software mainly the same forever.
Am I wrong?

Edited by samwel on 2007/9/7 2:57:55
Edited by samwel on 2007/9/7 2:59:26

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samwel

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/4 5:43 #56

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@whose

Quote:

pls read carefully... it won't have benefit if we didn't manage to earn more devloper's interest for the platform.

This isn't possible yet, just because the development system is not even fully useable (latest SDK isn't there, gdb is more work to guess the failure than a help etc.).

I will read carefully, I promise!

I know the latest SDK isn't released yet and that it
causes some problems. But it doesn't make development
impossible now does it?
I can't comment on GDB or any other specifics on
coding because I'm not an active coder anymore.

Quote:

All I say is that we should concentrate right now on the OS/development system before we put useless efforts on theories that will possibly last another 5-6 years before they become reality.

I hear you. But do you really think it will take 5 years
to add these features? Now they have cleaned up the
sources and have fully ported it to PPC.
All they need now is fault free hardware so development
isn't hindered by strange bugs/issues which takes
forever to find and fix. I'm quite sure if this happen we
might see this in about 2 years.

Quote:

It's all the same when such discussions emerge: Everybody is talking about fine "must have" features that are just a pancake on the top, if they will appear one day in the far future, but the flaws of the system that exist yet will be forgotten every time.

That's what they are trying to fix by adding some really
must have features.
Yes I know some important stuff is still missing or not
fully implemented. But that's to be expected I think.

Quote:

Nobody is seriously using the possibilities AmigaOS bears right now. Where are the really good games everybody wants to see? Some SDL based efforts were made (ports), that's it. The often demanded development tools? Well, some half-finished ports, again. Very few AmigaOS only programs saw the light of the world until now.

The good games? Well if you think OS4 is going to get
any good (as in new advanced) games in any form,
be it with or without MP, you're really in for a surprise.
A negative one.

Yes, advanced development tools are indeed a important
"feature" that's lacking today. I put my hopes to BitByBit.

The lack of applications is due to lack of developers.
This may change when new hardware arrives.

Quote:

OS4 is transformed to a never ending construction site, because lots of the new features and enhancements we just have don't get the attention they badly need because everybody is dreaming of things like MP and so on.

Yes it has become that. In big part because of the trouble
between Amiga Inc. and Hyperion I think. Not really
because the OS4 team is planning new features..

Quote:

What about AmigaInput? What about the USB subsystem? What about 2D/3D hardware acceleration? More SCSI drivers? A real good debugger? More development documentation? I can ask the whole day on, there will be no satisfying answer.

AmigaInput has its developer. His progress hasn't
anything to do with what the team managers are
planning for the future.
Yes, better/larger USB support would indeed be wanted.
I think this is tetisoft's part.
IMHO too few developers and too little spare time.
We have to be serious here, they aren't getting payed
for any of this, have no, or atleast very little, time left
to code. Most of them code on their spare time.

Quote:

I really know that there are not as much developers as needed, but to dream every day of new things to implement to the OS won't make the situation better.

All I ask is to start to use the things we have right now, polish them, make them more useful, expand them where it is badly needed (there are lots of fields to explore, polish and expand, believe me).

We have enough time to implement e.g. MP half a year or a year later. AmigaOS cannot compete in the actual market in this half finished state it is in, regardless if it bears MP facilties or not. It could, even without MP, if it would be in a better state than it is yet.

Yes, I agree. But what has this to do with what the
team want OS4 to be in the future? They haven't said
that they have dropped everything just to do MP or
whatever have they?

Quote:

P.S.: I own a OS4 system and I'm quite happy with it as a user, but not as a developer. I don't like command line developing using e.g. vi or NotePad, abcshell and a command line gcc with make. We all know that there were gui driven development tools in the past (and they weren't such bad as was said again and again) and that other platforms have these tools for years now. But for AmigaOS such tools are simply not possible, because lots of people don't see the point and keep on dreaming about things they don't need that urgently.

Ok. But you can buy a IDE (Cubic) and in the future we
will have BitbyBit's AVD. This is fully GUI driven development.

Edited by samwel on 2007/9/5 19:34:31

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samwel

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/3 2:35 #57

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@whose

Quote:

No, I don?t make a mistake here... you mentioned the exact problem... there will be no benefit of MP and such, IF there will not be more programmers (regardless if fulltime or hobbyists). What?s the big use of a handful (possibly ported and bloated) programs that won?t break the system?

No benefit?
What about applications crashing not taking down the
system, requiring a reboot?
What about making the system instable, if not crashing
at once?
What about the possibility to close down any program
that has crashed with out disturbing any other
application (Yes, this requires resource tracking aswell)?
What about making it easier for developers because not
the whole system goes down when testing applications?

I would guess some external developers won't touch a
OS that hasn't got MP because of the extra hassle
developing without it.
This doesn't only help when porting stuff. It will help
any developer making native stuff aswell.

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Harry

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samwel

Re: Overpopulation? (website)

Posted on: 2007/9/3 0:54 #58

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@Atheist

So who are these 3 specific people you're trying to
"convert" to amigans.net?
Had any luck yet?

I suppose those on your black list wouldn't join this
site anyway. Or would I be wrong in this assumption?

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Harry

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samwel

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/3 0:45 #59

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@LiveForIt

Resource tracking is inactive in OS4 just because it
would break software compatibilty. I believe it was
tfrieden who said this in another thread a while back.

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samwel

Re: The Memory Protection Debacle

Posted on: 2007/9/3 0:42 #60

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@Atheist

I'll ask you one question.. What is it that you absolutely
need that would break in a new system?
Mentioning any OS4 application doesn't apply because
those are actively being developed and can be changed
for a new API.

I personally don't have ANY classic applications installed.
Why should I? Other than a word processor maybe,
what's needed?
But I'm quite confident that when we have this new API
we'll also have both a competent browser aswell as a
word processor native.

EDIT: Sorry I have one classic application. A FTP client.

Edited by samwel on 2007/9/3 2:25:23

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