Also I could donate to more up-to-date UAE etc.

(it might become very important when SMP/AMP becomes available as some SW will start to fail or otherwise load only core0 (or so). People could then for example run Lighwave on some core and screamernet on the rest of the available cores.)

@AmigaBlitter

To my understanding the port of winUAE is impossible (according to WinUAE author).
IIRC, winUAE is highly undocumented hobbyproject with strong x86 assembly bindings etc.

Not sure if FS-UAE is a cleaner UAE version, IIRC, et exist also for Linux unlike WinUAE.

UPDATE: "FS-UAE integrates the most accurate Amiga emulation code available from WinUAE."

I doubt FS-UAE is possible outside x86 because of that, especially not with JIT. (I hope someone can prove me wrong)

@Hans

Taken to my personal "hints&tricks book"!

THANKS!

@utri007

Also I would love to see some nice sports car game for NG Amigas.

Perhaps there should be some startup to build a new car game (by the community), without any too heavy GFX engine (with modularity one could use different (GFX and physics) engine on different CPU+GPU performance).

(The problem in ported games is that the core is built for 2Ghz+ CPUs + 3GB RAM and therefore they are highly inefficient and slow.)

Perhaps the initial GFX engine should be vector based as our NG 3D libs are so immature.


AND if new game framework is done, it could be open source + allow making commercial releases from it.

btw. does sysinfo run without UAE?
(with just Petunia or Trance?)

"executable compiled specifically for PA-Semi / X1000"

Do we have gcc that supports compiler optimizations for PA6T?
Then... we need gcc that is aware of e5500 & e6500.

@mrluff

IIRC, A1SE has CPU on a card on a megarray connector...

Have you checked that the card is firmly on the connector?

about: HTC IDEOSx5 (Android 2.2)

Still the mass storage mode works with latest AOS4.

Just noticed that AOS4 fails to boot when the phone is connected via some of the SAM440ep-mini's internal USB header.
To me it looks like kickstart tries to boot from USB.

And as both SD drives (built in and user added SD card) appear with same name (NONAME) some legacy AMiga apps (like DOpus) fail to understand the correct path.
File access via WB works ok anyway.

@orgin

"3 years too late, wow getting kids sure slows you down"

+1

Getting anything out is an achievement anyway, so, big thanks.

IDEA:

When gallium is "done", it would be cool if there was a bundle of PCI to PCIe adapter + RadeonHD + SW to use spare GPU VRAM as AOS4 swap drive.

@Spirantho

Surely you have googled and the available ones do not have enough detail?
http://www.datasheetlib.com/datasheet ... 702_conexant-systems.html

Need reference manual?

(get only linux kernell code pieces when googling that...)

I'm using Lacie network drive and so far it has been a little pain to set up for Amiga use.
ftp works ok, I've not yet set up ftpmount, but I should.

With samba I have not had luck yet. I'm sure I did not manage to install it properly and for some reason samba seems terribly slow even on my AMDFX4300 when connecting to the drive (ftp access happens instantly, samba needs tens of seconds between mouse clicks before I can acceess the drive).
I doubt samba is fast enough to use via/from SAM440.

And so far I've managed to access Lacie web dashboard only with timberwolf on Amigalike systems and it's painfully slow.
(RAOWB, MUIOWB and older MOS Odyssey fails to load the page after login, I try new MOS Odyssey some day)...

I might end up setting up some x86 box or RPi to do the network drive service in customizable way... leaving Lacie as backup.

@LyleHaze

"Nemo is the only NG Amiga that uses CFE instead of UBOOT"

So Cyrus+ uses UBOOT ?
Cyrus+ at least would seem to have SD card slot (unless I'm mistaken), I thought it is used for boot bios, is it?



(sidestepping: I would love a system where kickstart is loaded from flash before HDD has spun up, we might get 2x faster cold bootings? Anyone studying that kind of solution?

ashamed: annoying how fast win7 boots nowdays @work, none of my Amigas can beat it any more ... together with memory protection windows is almost bareable ... insane if it took "only" three decades for M$ to catch us ...)


Almost related:
I'm happy that we start using PPC SoC from manufacturer that still develops PPC, IMHO there now will be 1% chance that someone at freescale/power.org gets interested in us and gives more support. :-/

@Fairdinkem

IMHO: We need multicore support. Then also I become more interested in investing beyond SAM460.

But as the situation is now (single core, PCIe supported, SATA), SAM460 is the best buy in AmigaLand. (unless cheaper second hand apple HW is taken into account)

@tlosm

>just for understand and make a simple comparing

8-o

>if i compare a Cyrus+ P5040 with a Ps4 of much will be the computing difference?

I think P5040 has similar processing capability than xbox360 and most likely higher than PS3. (+the future possibility of GP-GPU processing)
CORRECTION: 5020 2Ghz should perform like xbox360 CPU, 5040 @2.5Ghz should be almost 2x faster.

So... below 1/2 of PS4 CPU performance??? (1/4 ??)
CORRECTION: that was for 5020 version

>I probably bad understand but the Ps4 is capable of 5500 mflops ...
>my peggy2 did 140 mflops
>my xe 109 mflops

I do not have gflops info at hand. Previously I failed to find reliable gflops info.

(I think from synthetic tests (or simulation) T4240 should deliver 192 GFLOPs, for SAM460 3Gflops?, and G4 1Ghz 7Gflops?? but these gflops are not the same as yours I think... )

5040 should deliver a little better gflops/mhz than PPC460 (or G3) per core...

@Audio on cyrus
It can be done via RadeonHD (would cost no extra) or via PrismaMegamix or via xena (+minimal xorro card) or via some other pcie or usb device.


some infos about CPUs:

X1000 cpu:PA6T (~8000 MIPS if both cores used)

Cyrus+ options:
P3041 (~14000MIPS if all cores used)
P5020 (~12000MIPS if both cores used)

P5040 (not widely available yet?)(~28000MIPS if all cores used)


For me Cyrus might end up being too pricey. I would only need one PCIe for GPU (RadeonHD with built in audio)... and I have not find any big use for CPU performance above 8000MIPS ...

IF we had AOS that supports 16GB RAM and multicore... then perhaps. And if AOS would also have memory protection, then surely I would get cyrus bbased system.


Some interesting pdf about PA6T.
"We observed a full 2X improvement over 1-core operation" etc...
I'm sure PA Semi had the world's most talented HW team, too bad Apple had to kill it. (perhaps intel told them to do so)

@angelheart

+1


@thread

AOS progress seems painfully slow.
Ways to speed up development must be found.

If single persons health issues stop progress almost for a year, it is a problem that should be solved.
(shared responsibilities for every code module etc...)

And community should be given more ways to help.

And co-operation between OS flavours need to be improved further.


EXAMPLE:
When (currently) I do not have time to help I could assist OS development financially (rather than waste 3000 to use the old OS version on some new HW).

Also as there is lack of superb cheap PPC HW, I could put some money into a bounty to assist the open development of such HW.

To me it seems that Cyrus+ is initially for developers.
So, it could be that rev3.0 for end users might be smaller again.

Once drivers for PCIe cards are done, it becomes possible to reduce slots amount.

Also the same board with 2Ghz 5020 could serve mid range (A1-X2000) while 2Ghz 5040 could serve the high end (A1-x4000, as Trevor said)

+ it would be damn nice if some AMP series chip with SIMD unit becomes pin compatible with these....

@Spiranho

I think Moana was originally ACube's "idea".
They would sell it like they sold AOS4 for Pegasos.

What we need is not AOS4 on old Mac hW, except on MacPowerbook. (in my eyes it could be doable by buying the porting support (HAL) from MOS team. (win-win for everyone IMHO))


But I rather wish m* to be minimig2, miniminimig or multiSAM (SAM with multicore CPU).
Perhaps also mSAM, a new very low cost mini/nano size PPC machine.

It could also be mos for SAM, but only MOS team sells MOS.

MUI OWB etc...
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