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Re: AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works ?
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Tried version 5.6 and 5.7 and after 5.8

now version 5.8 works with twitchtv not with youtube.py where it can't open PythonSSL

only after installing the 4.7 package first did 5.8 start working again.

this only applies to Pegasos2

WinUAE has never had these problems.

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Re: AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works ?
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@Walkero
@jabirulo
@All

THIS REFERS TO PEGASOS2 with ALTIVEC ACTIVATED

(( WinUAE work perfectly ))
I did some testing to be more precise with Twitch.py,

Installing only this version DOESN'T WORK:
https://github.com/jens-maus/amissl/releases/expanded_assets/4.12

Installing version 4.7 THIS WORKS:
( I overwrote the certificates of the latest version 5.8 )
https://github.com/jens-maus/amissl/releases/4.7

(( Perhaps version 4.7 is a bit too old even if it works in part.
Now I try versions 5.7 and 5.6 ))

But only FFPlay works
Emotion instead from I/0 error
Emotion has always worked with the -splayer parameter
sPlayer Emotion path
sPlayer = args ""

Now if possible I would like to know what commands can be given with FFPlay-altivec to make it work?

Because I always used the FFPlay-Generic version because altivec was not supported.

As long as this is possible.

Whereas Youtube.py still doesn't open PythonSSL
with AmiSSL version 4.7.

Thanks for any help in this case especially for TwitchTV

My Config:

# Configuration
# At this file you can change the behaviour of the scripts, by setting
# various parameteres, and most important the preferred video players
#

# Set this to True to enable autoplay of the video with your preffered video player. Set it to False to disable it.
autoplay = True

# Set this to True to get more info from the script during the execution. Set it to False to disable it.
verbose = False

# Set the path to your preffered video player. This is going to be used on recorded streams only.
# This is used only if autoplay is set to True.
#vPlayer = "APPDIR:Work:Player/Emotion/Emotion"
vPlayer = "APPDIR:SYS:Utilities/MickjT-MPlayer/mplayer-non-altivec"
# Set the arguments that are going to be used with your preffered video player.
#vPlayerArgs = ""
vPlayerArgs = "-vo comp -quiet -really-quiet"

# Set the path to your preffered video player. This is going to be used mostly on live streams,
# but depending the network, might be used on recorder streams as well.
# This is used only if autoplay is set to True.
sPlayer = "APPDIR:Amiga:Utilities/FFmpeg/Generic/ffplay"
#sPlayer = "APPDIR:Amiga:Utilities/Emotion/Emotion"
# Set the arguments that are going to be used with your preffered streaming player.
sPlayerArgs = "-loglevel quiet -infbuf -skip_loop_filter all -skip_frame noref"
#sPlayerArgs = ""
sPlayerArgs = "-loglevel quiet -infbuf -skip_loop_filter all"
aPlayer = "APPDIR:Work:AmigaAMP3/AmigaAMP3"
aPlayerArgs = ""

Here Test with config:
https://youtu.be/OwFTbfiO9a4


Edited by white on 2023/4/17 15:20:14
Edited by white on 2023/4/17 15:30:16
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Re: AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works ?
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@jabirulo
@Walkero

Thanks, I'll try now
I also found these:

https://github.com/jens-maus/amissl/releases/4.7

But with WinUAE I use the latest AmiSSL and they don't give problems.

I tried many times to reinstall PythonSSL is also AmiSSL latest version though but it's still the same.

Now I try with the old AmiSSL.

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Re: AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works ?
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Hi Walkero,

Thanks for the reply
With WinUAE it works perfectly with FFPLAY and Emotion

Unfortunately the problem seems to be with Pegasos2
seems to fail to open PythosSSL libraries (I think)

Here's what appears in the output:
But everything seems to be set up fine
The only doubt is whether you need to have the SDK installed but I remember no.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "Amiga:Utilities/aiostreams/twitch.py", line 8, in <module>
import urllib
File "PYTHON:Lib/urllib.py", line 26, in <module>
import socket
File "PYTHON:Lib/socket.py", line 50, in <module>
import _ssl
SystemError: dynamic module not initialized properly


I also tried from shell:
To get even a simple list of Channels
Just to try but it tells me that the file is not executable
I re-flagged the files to be safe but it's the same even re-downloading them from OSDepot.

I was forgot, same happens with youtube.py too
I can't open the videos.


Edited by white on 2023/4/16 22:41:08
Edited by white on 2023/4/16 22:45:22
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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Fixed the Workbench resolution issue
Now every application no longer suffers from the screen that changed resizing it incorrectly and therefore the problem is solved.

Waiting for the patch

I enabled SDL and solved the problem.
You can also leave out -vga none if you want

This is for linux:
qemu-system-ppc -cpu 7447 -L pc-bios -M pegasos2 -bios /home/white/Scaricati/pegasos2.rom -m 1024 -serial stdio -device sm501 -drive if=none,id=hd,file=/ home/white/Scaricati/16gb.raw,format=raw -device ide-hd,drive=hd,bus=ide.1 -device rtl8139,netdev=network00 -netdev user,id=network00 -nodefaults -display sdl,gl=on

or you can also add:
-vga none

all that remains is to resolve the full screen which is given at 4:3
and not in "widescreen"

although I don't pay much attention to benchmark tests:
at the resolution of 1440x 900
17,364.00

But the Workbench is not yet optimized but this is superfluous.

https://youtu.be/tehxsdb0LIk

here instead E-UAE with The Killing Ground 2 3D and MPlayer with the composite:

https://youtu.be/OVXtZ3jDLQg

( for E-UAE I have to reconfigure files for new screens )
so there's a bit of work to do

The hardest thing now is to give qemu a real external address for amigaOS.
I can lean on VMWare but I need to find the command for qemu
to make it use the "VM8" driver

So I can finally use Amicygnix and it's already working and I can access the terminal with the shell.
But I can't export DISPLAY precisely because I don't have the external IP for AmigaOS.

Does anyone know how to do this?

Thank you.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

Now I spent some time configuring the whole system.
Clearly currently the emulation is forced.
Until some bugs like SDL are fixed

Nothing wrong I've been adjusting WinUAE for years to make it work better with 4.1

Don't pay attention to my questions, of course they are specific and tested
on applications that I have been using for a long time in emulation.

Now I put the vmware driver to have an external ip.

In the end I switch everything to real SSD hard drive partition
The speed should increase a lot especially in writing

I've been doing this for some time with WinUAE where I use a real Hard Disk

Well I await news of any developments.
When you like, write or let me know if you move to other channels.

Because the speed is really excellent and I can assure you that if I'm using it it's because it's faster than WinUAE clearly "bugs and everything else will come out little by little and be solved slowly.

I found them having practically used all the applications available for 4.1 just to test how the speed was.

But little by little we can work on it.

I looked now AIOSTREAMS works on WinUAE
While with Qemu we have problems with the "pythonSSL" libraries, it seems I can't open them.

Then there is E-UAE which works really well but the latest version compiled by "kas1e" has problems and is slightly split, so I went back to the old version always with JIT.
(this only if you use the 1.5ghz processor)

As soon as I have time I make a video to give ZBalaton or where you write.
This is done faster for years that I have been using 4.1 applications in emulation.

And clearly they are written for real amigas, and it is normal that there are some emulation bugs

But the speed of execution is extraordinary.

Get in touch.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

If I use for example "Emotion" everything works.
If I put "Emotion" in full screen everything works
But if I then switch from full screen of "Emotion" back to its window.
The Workbench appears disproportionate and is no longer scaled eg 1280x720.
Does this also happen with other applications does it happen to you too?

Is this due to SM502 or do I have to compile something for SDL,ON ?

for MAC the " -display cocoa " option what is it for ?

Do you know how to "boot" automatically without writing the command line every time to initialize the "boot" ?

I have configured Amicygnix to export the DISPLAY
to be able to do this I need the amiga's ip not to be that of the "virtual router" .
With WinUAE I use NpCAP to directly use VMWare drivers how can I configure AmigaOS "RTL 8029" to get the same thing ?
for example with "Libpcap" is it then to have an external IP for AmigOS ?

With Qemu ?

Thank you


Edited by white on 2023/4/15 15:13:32
Edited by white on 2023/4/15 15:14:05
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AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works ?
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AIOSTREAMS TWITCHTV no longer works?
Until a few weeks ago
"Aiostreams" used to work with "TwitchTV".

Now it doesn't seem to work anymore.

Am I doing something wrong or the program needs to be updated
(I currently use the latest version available on OSdepot.)

Thank you.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

GfxBench:

The one at 17.134.22 is me (Ryzen 5800x)

i tried to do it yesterday

But clearly they are entirely scores in theory
http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS

p.s
Today I prepare a few questions for you

but the FIX update (the third one released by Hyperion must be installed)
because in the live update it is not in the list.

EAB (it is the site of WinUAE).

But you can choose where you prefer to write about qemu..


I owe everything I've learned about AmigaOS 4.1 over time to this forum.
And to its users who know how to really use 4.1 and beyond.

Where there has always been an open mind towards emulation.

Besides the fact that they have always been available.

So if Amigans users don't mind, here too it would be a great choice because apart from emulation you can count on their experience on the software side, etc.

Thank you.


Edited by white on 2023/4/15 14:22:51
Edited by white on 2023/4/15 14:23:20
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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@khayoz

Yes, I'm impressed too, I'm happy now to use programs that used to be slow.
For example now in Scumm the interlude videos are perfect before the lip was not in sync with the transmitted video.

As for the 3D acceleration in this case for the Voodoo 3

Here is ZBalaton answer to my question:

Hello,
Voodoo emulation might be possible but it's not something I plan to do. I can provide advice and mentoring for somebody willing to put in the effort to implement it but I'd rather spend my time on other tasks that would be more difficult for others but help to improve the project better than adding yet another incomplete or limited graphics emulation. Since Voodoo emulation has been done in several other projects it is probably a good task for somebody willing to start working on this and a good way to learn the needed stuff. I'd look at a simple PCI graphics device such as qemu/hw/display/bochs-display.c as an example that shows how to define a PCI card in QEMU and what a graphics card needs then start from there and add the Voodoo emulation from an open source project of your choice. Before starting consider that the license of the sources must be compatible with QEMU which is GPL2+ so PCem, WinUAE and mame are probably compatible but check at gnu.org/licenses. .It can be a problem if ROMs that are not freely distributable are needed unless it also works without roms with at least a Linux or other guest as QEMU likely don't want to take an unusable device, so if it only works with non-free ROMs that cannot be included in QEMU then it may only be merged in the Qmiga project not in upstream QEMU.
I think implementing Voodoo emulation could only be a stop gap until better emulation could be written so I'd consider finishing ati-vga instead or writing AmigaOS drivers for QEMU's virtio-vga device which should now also be possible that the P96 API docs were published. I won't stop anybody who wants to contribute Voodoo emulation and as said I can help with giving advice and answer questions if I can but I don't want to spend my time on that now because of the above.


On another note, sm501 should support higher than 16 bit modes. If you check in Ranger it lists R8G8B8 as supported and it also works in 24/32 bit mode with MorphOS so it's probably something with AmigaOS that prevents these modes to be added. It may be something with the EDID info QEMU provices that don't work well with AmigaOS but I'm not sure. Enabling logging I get some info from the driver and it says a pixel clock value is missing but I don't know if that's relevant or where it should come from so that's also something to debug if anybody want's to look at it.


For those who don't frequent the ZBalaton mailing list.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

And really very fast, now it's better than WinUAE
I wanted to test if the 1.5 ghz CPU was actually fast and not just with the values given by "Ranger" as an indicator.

Now I'm starting to configure everything so far I had done some superficial tests just to see how the emulation was.

Here the PSX 1 emulator with "Metal Gear Solid"
Grande game the only dubbed entirely in Italian of the entire saga.

What a pity for the Italian language dubbing of many games and yet the Italian market is very thriving and yet they continue to snub the Italian language in many games.

I wanted to ask you about the "Enhancer" did you install it before or after the AmigaOS updates ?
Because I bought them some time ago and they caused some problems with the updates.

I also write on EAB maybe someone joins the tests

Thank you

https://youtu.be/B-MSa_yyXM4

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

Perfect now everything works fine with the amiTube 1.4 version also with altivec.

if you want to see the files directly online without downloading them first:
run the program and edit the .ini file

here the .ini file:
[Player]
Path=Sys:Utilities/MultiView
Parameter=%f
MPEGPath=Sys:Utilities/MultiView
MPEGParameter=%f
URLPlayerPath=Amiga:Utilities/MickJT-MPlayer/mplayer-nonaltivec
(( or altivec player ))
URLParameter=-really-quiet -vo comp -autosync 30 %u
WGetPath=C:wget
WGetParameter=%u -O %f

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

Could you give me the settings you use with MickJTPlayer because I can't get it to work right.

If I use AmiTube qemu crashes completely
Whereas Emotion works perfectly.

If you prefer also 2 screenshots including settings in MPplayer-GUI

Thank you

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

WOW!!
Great

I knew that we exchange information on emulation we make progress.

ENABLED:
https://ibb.co/wpxZc2Q

Thank you

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

I have no way of explaining to him how to do it,
But I guess among programmers it's easier to list what to use.

And how to implement the Voodoo3.
I'll leave him a message for Voodoo 3 because it would be a big step forward.

He could exchange some ideas with Toni or with the author of PCem

Among them who speak the same language it should be easier to understand each other

Ah by the way when I was using a real 68k amiga I had found a program that animated .GIFs I don't remember the name but it's still there on "aminet" it's very simple to use

Just create the BoingBall logo and provide it with coordinates
And you can have the animated BoingBall running on the TitleBar
Just create a sequence of few frames of the "BoingBall" and put it in the "startup"

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

I compacted it with winrar (windows)
if you have problems exchanging files you can create .iso and eventually mount them with qemu with everything you need inside.

The archive is not corrupted unpack it first with the MAC and then pass it on an .iso to use with qemu.

The path to Boing Title Bar:

Evo/BitMaps/SbarLogo/default

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

I modified it a little, use the link I sent you
and follow the indicated path


if you don't have the "Themes" folder you have to create it and put EVO inside it

use theme

if everything is ok, save

the background for windows and menus is the backround you always find them inside the same folder.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

I understand you perfectly,
I started using 4.1 emulation with the A8 laptop
then with an "I5"

If Voodoo is implemented in qemu it's a good thing.

It's certainly not that I play Quake 2 with WinUAE emulation
it's just fun for me too.

For the EVO theme gladly, give me some time,
Thanks.

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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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@Maijestro

The theme I use was made by @imagodespira it's called EVO THEME I immediately liked it when I saw it.

It is not available on Osdepot to download it I had to subscribe to the German forum if I remember correctly

I think he likes his theme being used.

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@Maijestro

Voodoo 3 is clearly interesting
with UaeGfx you have to resort to "wazp3d" and there would be no difference
for the purpose and there is WinUAE for it.

Voodoo 3 is not the ideal card for 4.1 for various reasons.
But it's a big step forward.
And as already said the sources are available and are to be implemented in qemu.

But with Voodoo3 it starts to be more fun.

Try to see this Demo with Wazp3d or play Quake2

with Voodoo3 you have the "opengl" here you can see an example:

https://youtu.be/7SdMUmL4RF8

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