@MartinW

At this stage, I would advise you to keep your money in your pocket. Unless you like playing around of course.

Pegasos2 has hit a brick wall at the moment for passthrough. Likely an issue that can only be solved in the kernel.

sam460 is too unstable as a target.

@MartinW

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Yes, a PCIe to PCI bridge.

QEMU 8.02 sam460ex Passthrough

1. Voodoo 3 works.

2. Radeon 9250 has the same result as Pegasos2. Boot logo ok. But workbench backdrop and windows messed up. Except for icons. And a crash shortly after.

Overall description of sam460 emulation in QEMU8.02 with one word: Unstable

@ferrels

ROFLOL!

Next time that you feel such urge then start by looking into a mirror. Because you are way out of your league here.

a. You fail to understand the context of EULA discussion. Namely "It takes one to know one".

b. You are trying to prove a point with Windows without having actually read the Windows EULA. Because if you did, you would have known that Microsoft explicitly allows you to run Windows in a virtual machine:
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c. Breach of EULA != Piracy. Distributing unlicensed copies = piracy.

d. I was not talking about QEMU itself. I was talking about the effort to run AmigaOS4 on QEMU. QEMU is neither an Amiga branded nor Amiga licensed computer. And therefore the effort of running AmigaOS4 on QEMU, in contrary to Windows, is a clear breach of the AmigaOS4 EULA by the user. Not by QEMU of course.

e.The following statement is very weak: Quote: Because both the author and QEMU itself are actively encouraging this breach of EULA by providing commandlines with the amigaos4 iso name in it.
http://zero.eik.bme.hu/~balaton/qemu/amiga/
https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Pl ... ms/PowerPC#aCube_Sam460ex

Now do I oppose to running AmigaOS4.1 on an emulator? Not at all!. In my opinion you should be able to do as you like with products that you've paid for. And even a bit more so if it's only for educational purposes. EULAs are often constructed with the purpose to make you pay multiple times for the same product. But again the context was: "it takes one to know one".

And when it comes to EULAs in general, opinions don't count. Because it's the EULA versus civil law. If you have complaints about that then vote for someone else next time.

@kas1e

Small addition. HD works on sam440. But rx doesn't

@balaton

Passthrough results in DMA errors when on pci.0

But boots on pcie.0. I can see it attached on pcie.0 in the qtree

@derfs

Yes, that's the story with the pegasos2 target. 64-bit BARs are missing. No matter which card. That's why i'm now shifting focus on the sam460ex.

@balaton

Of course it's a means to sell more copies. But it is just cynical that you lecture me on a breach of the EULA when the whole QEMU effort is a breach of the EULA. QEMU is neither an amiga-branded nor amiga-licensed computer. If you want to abide to the rules then either stop cherry picking or don't try to lecture others. At this moment it's just for educational purposed for me. Actually the only reason why I am doing this is to help you in your effort. I own several real AmigaOnes so I'm not in need of qemu.

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@balaton

That is a weird warning. If you've read the eula then you should know that running OS4.1 on a thing else then the target machine is a violation of the eula. This also include modification of the iso (sm502 driver). This effectively means the end of the qemu OS4 effort.

@balaton

I wonder which ones that would be.

@balaton

Which bus is the PCI bus and which one is the PCIe on a Sam460ex target?

@balaton

Running my Sam440 install CD in the Sam460ex target results in a kernel panic.

@balaton

If the source for the pegasos2 issue is the OS4 kernel then this is something that can only be fixed by aeon. I think that they have other priorities at the moment.

VFIO for the Sam460ex target results in qemu DMA errors. So for now that doesn't work

@joerg

Yes the processor core is the same but the SoC and memory map is different. Hence the kernel panic.

@joerg

As far as I know, the 460cr is using exactly the same amcc Ppc460ex cpu.

Ony the sam440 ep and flex have the ppc440ep cpu.

Tried to boot qemu with my sam440 cd but that results on a kernel panic.

@joerg

I very much doubt this but I guess that I can find out

@joerg

The sam440 doesn't have PCIe.

@MartinW

OK, then you are good to go.

@MartinW

No, that's not the group.