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Re: Silence...
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@nubechecorre

What news do you expect?

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Re: is born... (aka AbiWord 2.6.4..)
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@Snuffy

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FYI, Quake2 doesn't use any assigns. The original install uses Envarc.


Quake3 on the other hand fails to even start with Cygnix assigns, and there are some others too with such problems.

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Re: is born... (aka AbiWord 2.6.4..)
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@cygnusEd

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Yes, this is possible. It was a mistake I've done when I started with the X-Server. The Cygnix concept was created later. To solve this, I have to reconfigure all libs and projects with an other prefix and recompile everything just like joerg said. But this is too much for me at the moment. It is not a simple recompile - I have over 200 libs and programs here.


I get the idea. But please keep it in the todo list, because currently X11 interferes with a lot of programs, not just the OS4 SDK. For example it took me ages to find out that Quake3 no longer works because of the assigns Cygnix makes.

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Start_Cygnix.bat does this already. You can use this script without the user-startup stuff. But the assigns and paths are not removed, when Cygnix is stopped and the search paths (path command) are not global then.


Then I would suggest to remove the lines from the install script, which adds those lines to the user-startup, or it'd be even better to make the installer remove it if it finds such in the user-startup from an older Cygnix installation.

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Re: is born... (aka AbiWord 2.6.4..)
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@afxgroup

Yes, with the second solution it'd good to remember the old assigns and restore it at exit. It's not a nice solution but it'd be better than the way it is currently, having to edit the user-startup and reboot each time we want to run Cygnix.

For the mapping solution I meant Cygnix:bin, etc. not Cygwin, this is what happens to you when you use PCs at work for too long... :/

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Re: is born... (aka AbiWord 2.6.4..)
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@cygnusEd

Is it not possible to map accesses to bin, usr, etc. to a seperate directory, instead of using an assign? So that programs would reference them as Cygwin:bin/ Cygwin:usr/ , etc.? Or use assigns like cygbin:, cygusr:, etc. It should be just a matter of mapping to a different path/assign.

If no such solution is possible, then at least you could only make those assigns when the user executes the Start_Cygwin.bat script, instead of directly in the user-startup. This way it would not interfere with other programs, unless you actually start Cygwin.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@joerg

I was thinking of it being only optional of course. I tested CPUTemp.docky 52.10 and added "dnetc crunch #1" to the tasks to ignore and it works! I see that you display a dimmer graph which includes all tasks and a brighter one with tasks filtered out, this is nice. Although the two percentage values I don't really like (I'd prefer to have only the filtered out version displayed) but I can live with it for now :) Thanks!

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@abalaban

I had a chat with joerg about how he does CPU usage measurement in his CPUTemp docky and with that approach it'd be easy to filter out some tasks so I'll see if I can add this to CPUInfo.docky when I get some time, maybe via a tooltype where the user can specify a task name to filter out.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@Raziel

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I mean dnetc eats all idle cpu time and so does the CPU docky shows it.


Exec's idle task also eats all idle CPU time, something always runs in the background, the idea of dnetc is that it makes the CPU do something useful in this idle time rather than just busy looping. You don't notice whether the idle CPU time is spent in a simple busyloop or something else like crunching dnetc. This is why it's a good idea if a CPU meter can filter out the dnetc task so that with dnetc running in the idle time I can still see how much CPU time is really used when I start 3 instances of dvplayer or whatever. Filtering out dnetc task should be optional of course, some people might for some reason prefer to look at a constant 100% gauge all the time.

@joerg

I know that your CPUTemp docky uses some exec hooks to power down the CPU during idle time on 750 CPUs, but even on other CPUs where this cannot be done and exec's idle task busyloops in the idle time, most people don't want to look at a constant 100% CPU gauge, but rather to see CPU usage spent outside of idle time.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@MichaelMerkel

dnetc runs in the idle time, when nothing else runs. Without dnetc running the idle time is spent in exec's idle task. The idle task also uses CPU time, but still we don't want to see 100% CPU usage even when nothing but the idle task runs. Same with dnetc, I know that it's crunching in the idle time of my system, but I want to see the CPU time that my real applications use.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@joerg

And how does your current code monitor CPU usage? I suppose it's a more accurate approach than what CPUClock docky does? Would it be difficult to add the possibility to filter dnetc, so that the CPU usage meter is still usable when you have dnetc running in the background? I've been told that most CPU meter tools on MorphOS do this already.

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Re: Lunapaint is open source, Who create the OS4 port?
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@Troels

Take a look at the Lunapaint Homepage (especially the 'features' section . It looks comparable to Photogenics, but it also has animation support and it's free. Its development is progressing really fast.

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Re: Lunapaint is open source, Who create the OS4 port?
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So, is anyone porting this to OS4?

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@joerg

hehe, I get 8 degrees :)

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@joerg

A cpu.library is a very good idea, we need some central API which can be used by anything that wants to get information about the CPU (temperature, current CPU usage, etc.) although personally I think that such functionality belongs to exec.library.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@joerg

CPUInfo.docky is the same as CPUClock.docky, I just modified the part which produced the output of the measured data. It would be good to combine CPUInfo.docky and CPUTemp.docky into a single docky, which displays the temperature next to the CPU usage.

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Re: Second Life client for OS4?
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@Raziel

No, it's not a game. It's a system for people to communicate over the internet, but using a 3D virtual world instead of the old chat windows and such. Everyone has a 3D avatar which they can customize, etc. It seems to be heading for great success. You can read about it on wikipedia

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Second Life client for OS4?
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Now that it's open-sourced (see here), is anyone porting this to OS4?

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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Hmmm, the CPUClock docky sources I have do not display the date, maybe it was updated since I asked for the sources. It'd be very easy though for me to enable displaying of the clock together with the CPU percentage. It'd be even better to be able to change some parameters of the docky (size, colours, etc.) but I don't have much time to have a look into how that can be done for dockies (tootypes or prefs window maybe)...

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@mufa

You mean have all that crammed into the docky? You wouldn't be able to see the graph anymore.

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Re: cpuinfo_docky.lha upload still pending?
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@orgin

OK, thanks.

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