@Hans

>If you're talking about displaying different images on different monitors and/or stretching workbench over multiple displays,

Yes.

> then no, that's not being worked on right now. 3D support really is (and should be) the top priority as far as graphics is concerned.

OK, very understandable.
As there is anyway the option to use two cards to get dual monitor output, the need is not mandatory.

Thank you for the answer.

@hans

Also I want to ask something.

Is the dual head support being worked on or is it way down in priority list?


Perhaps graphics driver development priority list could be released by ssolie? (with rough status even...)

almost related:

I wonder if Ultra Varisys has some contacts from military arena where there could be partner for Radeon driver developments for PPC.
http://wwwd.amd.com/catalog/salescat. ... bd4005ac776?OpenDocument#

@LiveForIt

To me it seems that the decoder is anyway embedded in the GPU section:
http://www.petervis.com/Raspberry_PI/ ... BCM2835_Block_Diagram.gif

@tommysammy

>A Raspberry PI can play 1080HD movies without any problems.

Yes, when the GPU does the hard work.

>I think the X1000 have enough power to do it too.

It has 10x the CPU power and 100x of the GPU power of Pi.

>We need better drivers.

To compete with HW assisted playback, we need AMD to help to do those drivers...

Without the big helping hand, the development takes very long time.

(hoping some grazy Amigan @ AMD to help, so that we get state of the art Radeon support)


I wonder if someone has thought about an idea to have "small" fpga card on PCIex1 slot to house "Amiga" specific HW video decoder... Would that be easier to do than full Radeon support?

@K-L

"not promote the X1000 launching videos"

Using a eur3000 computer for videos when blueray/divx players exist are a bit futile thing anyway...


btw. Does AOS4 support blueray drives and is it able to rip the content?


Some time ago I noticed that I could convert videos to mpeg4 format that played nicely even on SAM440 (with some free CPU even).
(something like 360p or so and very OK to my eyes, 64kbit for audio, I do not want to use gigabytes of space per movie anyway...)


((hmmm.. where did I put that DVD::RIP config info ...))

@hUMA

Cool!
I wish we already could use that.
But better get the Gallium & OpenGL first...

(I hope we seen blog update on that 3D part soonish as well...)

UPDATE: (because there was some discussion of visible memory space, example how memory is mapped in one case)
Memory map on T1040QDS
----------------------
The addresses in brackets are physical addresses.
Start Address End Address Description Size
990xF_FFDF_0000 0xF_FFDF_0FFF IFC - FPGA 4KB
1000xF_FF80_0000 0xF_FF80_FFFF IFC - NAND Flash 64KB
1010xF_FE00_0000 0xF_FEFF_FFFF CCSRBAR 16MB
1020xF_F803_0000 0xF_F803_FFFF PCI Express 4 I/O Space 64KB
1030xF_F802_0000 0xF_F802_FFFF PCI Express 3 I/O Space 64KB
1040xF_F801_0000 0xF_F801_FFFF PCI Express 2 I/O Space 64KB
1050xF_F800_0000 0xF_F800_FFFF PCI Express 1 I/O Space 64KB
1060xF_F600_0000 0xF_F7FF_FFFF Queue manager software portal 32MB
1070xF_F400_0000 0xF_F5FF_FFFF Buffer manager software portal 32MB
1080xF_E800_0000 0xF_EFFF_FFFF IFC - NOR Flash 128MB
1090xF_E000_0000 0xF_E7FF_FFFF Promjet 128MB
1100xF_0000_0000 0xF_003F_FFFF DCSR 4MB
1110xC_3000_0000 0xC_3FFF_FFFF PCI Express 4 Mem Space 256MB
1120xC_2000_0000 0xC_2FFF_FFFF PCI Express 3 Mem Space 256MB
1130xC_1000_0000 0xC_1FFF_FFFF PCI Express 2 Mem Space 256MB
1140xC_0000_0000 0xC_0FFF_FFFF PCI Express 1 Mem Space 256MB
1150x0_0000_0000 0x0_ffff_ffff DDR 2GB

So 256MB seems pretty standard (reservation) for PCIe cards.

Heh! Extmem! Grazy! But cool as well.

may I suggest:
-make RAD drive(s) that can be mapped to ext mem
-enable shoft booting from RAD (grazy but cool)
-enable SWAP file allocation from extmem

Q1: When do we get this ext mem feature?

Q2: So what is now the new maximum memory limit? Same as for 64bit file systems on hard drives?
IIRC, e5500 cores can address 32GB RAM, would all that be available via extmem?

Q3: Is extmem memory protected? So only one application can access it's extmem?

Q4: Have I understood correctly: existing 32bit apps are still limited to running in the ~2GB space? (or is it 4GB)

Q5: New 32bit apps can have up to 2GB directly mapped RAM and tens of gigabytes of extmem?

Q6: Is ext mem ever swapped to HDD? (swap partition #2?)

Q7: Is it possible to run two legacy 32bit apps using 2GB per application? (some memory is swapped to HDD / ext mem?)



Q8: Grazy "extmemextender" idea... would it be possible to have a application that has control part in the 32bit space and processing part in pure 64bit space (it would require something like WarpUP-NG and access to OS services would need to be accessed via the 32bit control instance ... )
(and while at it ... WarpUP-NG could use multiple cores...)
//ok, better come back to earth//


Q9: Would this extmem be usefull also for disc read/write cache? (I doubt)

Q10: can this extmem system use also the unused GFX card memory? Or some other memory on PCIe card?


I imagine we see games/game ports that buffer/cache data to extmem, so that once loaded data does not ever need to be loaded again.

Someone should start a USB programming school for Amigans. I would love to be a student on that.

(I have become interested in implementing some drivers for USB devices. I did some USB driver stuff at work and got a small itch to do Amiga flavours ...)


UPDATE:
About joystick usage:
http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?fun ... e=driver/input/libhjw.lha
(does have some example code...)

Semi-relevant, copy of some old thread @ amigacoding:
http://www.amigacoding.de/index.php?topic=217.0

(and you can also ask more on "AOS4 only" coders forum: http://www.os4coding.net/forums/gaming )

@AmiKit

"Coming soon to computer near"

Hmmm... interesting, as it depends on where I am.

If it is for x64 / SAM440 / MacMiniG4 / PowerBookG4 /A4k060 / A600 / A500 / A2000 it just might hit.


Perhaps the news is AOS4 related when posted to this site...

Amikit AOS4 version (with AOS4 and AOS3 SW bundle) for PPC?

Amikit AOS4 version (with AOS4 and AOS3 SW bundle) for Qemu on x86?

M9, so "Radeon 8xxx-9xxx".

(I would like to use multiple monitors, so I might try Voodoo3 one day on my SAM440ep-mini PCi slot. (IIRC, radeon on PCI might not work together with the onboard chip))

@Armiga

Interesting project.

But I think I will not be a paying supporter as I moved on from A500 in 1989 already.
(used big box Amigas after that and did 90% of others stuff than games)


but hmmm... using your case as AretroMIGA case for PPC powered HW would be appealing to me.

@thellier

Seeing Amiga600 to play 4096 colour video makes me again amazed how CBM managed to f*ck up so superior computer.

Even a (slightly) expanded A500 from y1987 could play better video than stock x86 in mid 90's !

(+ multimedia kiosk systems from 1997 played some post stamp size jerky videos etc... (some mac HW inside the box, unless windows error prompt was seen on top))

@rafaelle

CD32 FMV module played standard mpeg1 video. (I believe some PC mpeg1 cards had the same decoder chip)
So, those should be editable on any/every modern video editor (in mainstream).

I've found that some users use windows wastebasket for file storage. Then they nag if they loose some files. 8-P

@thread

Is CDXL capable of handling HAM?

Anyway, several ham video examples exist:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ham+video+amiga

Interesting anim/video format to play with on classic HW.

@faster bootup

We must aim at about 3s boot times.

To me it seems:
-we need bios tuned to enable faster launch of kickstart
(or a "Amiga" boot bios, without that stone-age textual interface that maisntream uses even today ... damn, kickstart2 already looked better...)
-kickstart should be loaded before HDD spins up
-after kickstart is loaded, system can check if some new HW has appeared that needs something special, etc.
-user should have option for safer slow boot if error occurs

Also ... on multicore systems there could be system that enables parallel operations of kickstart loading and bios digging up the HW.

@GarbageOut

>Windows 8

Perhaps it's because I've not had Windows machine at home for about 10 years, but I do not see win8 to work like I would like it to work (I use it at work). But I agree that there has been some positive development, like faster booting, win requires frequent reboots after all.

>Ordinary Amiga users like me are totally in the dark about what development work is going on

Yes, we need more open communication.


/me goes back figuring out why my win8 tablet test code failed...

@orgin

After looking those screen grabs on os4depot...
I need to try the Finnish locale one day.

+ Prefs center is the modernish way, just grown with the old one, but people tend to learn new things ... slowly.

@Elwood

1)Having fun is good. There must be fun in one's life. It makes life worth living. AmigaOS makes life worth living???

>Let's not spend time to push it forward

If Edison had thought like that, we would not have a light bulb. (Edison failed some 11000 times before he succeeded, Amiga has failed once with CBM, let's try some more...)

Henry Ford did three bankruptcy before becoming a millionaire, etc...

2) The way to future. Every little helps. The more you fail the more you learn. The faster you fail the faster you find success. Negativity grows negativity. Positive thinking grows positivity. Give constructive feedback, make suggestions, do not put anyone down because it then fires back on you (your own life becomes more miserable).
Etc.

The power is in the community. Only Amiga community can make Amiga succeed & prosper & live forever.

I want my kids to be able to see the Amiga alternative as the current mainstream is like "the devil" on the top of earth, killing innovation, forcing you to do things in their way (not your way), limiting creative spirit, etc...

That would be very nice feature.

@kas1e

"same as on all normal oses all video players do"

Not tried on windows for past 10 years or so, but at least during the past few years Linux players have failed to do that (perhaps some player handle it, some do not, not verified recently, I have just set the screenblanker time long enough).

It's silly how it does not work with windows presentation apps. Allways presentations are stopped because screenblanker activating in the middle of presentations (ppt/pdf).