@netrot

Did not try but it means you have to add OS no matter you buy just mobo or a full system. The only thing to concider is a free OS 4.2 upgrade when you buy X1000 system.

@netrot

Look at the X1000...

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/c ... cPath=37&products_id=1071

...it looks similar, the price of OS is included.

About 4.2, it was kind of reward/extra value for all customers.

@kas1e

Quote:

Really, how come? Full system costs 2644€ and contains case, cheap GPU, 1GB RAM, HDD and DVDRW. How much for that, 400/500€?....and you get 2183€, for the mobo

@samo79

It is not a matter of liking or not but kind of hard choices.
...and many of them could be recompiled, right?

@samo79

Quote:

Let them rest in peace...
I think there are more important things, but its OT here...

Quote:

I knew, I was not precise enough
I meant each day we are closer to Gallium release the less important is to have Warp3D drivers...

@ssolie

One more question Do you consider some kind of upgrade path for the AOS4.1 owners? I think it's much harder to decide to buy a new system now while you know a newer, payable version is around the corner.

@samo79

Agreed but it was meant to be a stop-gap solution while we waiting for Gallium so maybe it's less important now when Gallium is almost done...

@ssolie

Any news about Warp3D driver? I know it is AEon project but I have got an impression that due to the fact Gallium3D is getting closer to release date maybe, just maybe you have decided to cancel it?

A very good read, thanks

@kas1e

Is it possible dopus5 could scale icons the same way WB does?
I have a scale factor set to 70% in my WB, they look way too big in dopus5...

Maybe it's just me but I see the biggest potential to use dopus5 as sa WB replacement. It's too powerful to use it only as a file manager. I hope dopus team could modify and enhace it enough since WB is getting older...

Playing with a stack, deleting 'home' dir, updating to Qt-0.9.1 even the trick from pvanni's post didn't help...so I have to bug Alfkil next week

@zzd10h

Thats what I was thinking... I had problems with low stack and make it higher, maybe to much. Will change it as soon I'm home...

Tried qt/demos/browser again and it runs when launching through qt/bin/qtdemo(demonstrations/browser) but if I try to start it by clicking its icon (qt/demos/browser/browser) it crashes.

@pvanni zzd10h

Exactly the same behavior and probably old Qt version...Downloaded 0.9.1-minimal. Will be back soon...

EDIT: No, still the same crash...

@cha05e90

Drat, I dont remember if I installed it from Sourceforge...

@zzd10h

I was deleting all files from home directory while trying to start browsers. It is the same, isn't it?

Since I don't remember, I will download and install qt4.7-0.9.1. See what will happen then...

@Phantom

I think, its QF8...

@tlosm

In summary. Radeon HD cards will not work with the Pegasos-II.
PCI RadeonHD has pci->pcie bridge built in. OpenFirmware can not initialize graphic chip behind the bridge. Thats how I understand that...

Scroll down, there is a table...
http://hdrlab.org.nz/projects/amiga-o ... r-hardware-compatibility/

@zzd10h

Hmmm, just tried it again and it starts OK from the QtDemo but does not start and crash with an empty stack while running from its icon.

@zzd10h

...still problems to start QtWeb and very similar crash with ISB...

rash log for task "QtWeb"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.5
Crash occured in module at address 0x582C12C0
Type of crash: ISI (Instruction Storage Interrupt) exception

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: 6BBAA288 5164EA00 00000000 518A5000 00001002 FFFFFFFF 000001D5 000001D5
8: 00000001 FFFFFFFF 559CDD74 000000CE 00000051 54C7E3E4 00000000 00000000
16: 54D2C000 6F578C6C 00000001 15300034 00340014 02270000 02270000 00000014
24: 00000000 582C12C2 5164ECCC 6BFE842C 55CFADD0 FFFFFFFF 6BE21254 518A5000


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 0 0 0
4: 0 67.8 43.8 1489
8: 0 4.5036e+15 4.5036e+15 0
12: 1 44 0 2.43513e-295
16: 4.90827e-193 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0
24: 0 2.65249e-315 0 0
28: 0 0 0 5.58058e-222

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82004000


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002F030
Condition (cr) : 0x44424082
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x582C12C0
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x00000002
Count (ctr) : 0x582C12C2
Link (lr) : 0x6BBA9860
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x00000000
Data Address (dar) : 0x518A501C



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x582C12C0 belongs to module "" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:

libQtCore.so:_Z21resource_file_handlerv()+0x1f4 (section 10 @ 0x18A2E0)
libQtCore.so:_Z22qt_force_resource_initv()+0x2c (section 10 @ 0x18A458)
libQtCore.so:_Z41__static_initialization_and_destruction_0ii()+0x64 (section 10 @ 0x18A4D8)
libQtCore.so:_GLOBAL__I__ZN16QResourcePrivate5clearEv()+0x38 (section 10 @ 0x18A544)
libQtCore.so:__shlib_call_constructors()+0x68 (section 10 @ 0x6C)
native kernel module elf.library.kmod+0x0000814c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00001f28
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d3c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002eb8
QtWeb:_start()+0x170 (section 9 @ 0x170)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x00022d9c
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b4b0
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b530


Crash log for task "InternetSurfBoard"
Generated by GrimReaper 53.5
Crash occured in module at address 0x6B551BD4
Type of crash: ISI (Instruction Storage Interrupt) exception

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: 6BF6DA28 4F601A00 00000000 4F601A08 0000FFFF 00007300 73686C69 5359A590
8: 00000000 4F601B30 6BF6D7E8 4F601A08 44422042 535253C4 00000000 00000000
16: 549BF680 6F603864 00000001 1482A330 00340014 02270000 02270000 00000014
24: 00000000 528136D2 4F601CCC 6C10142C 55ABCDF0 00000000 6F448254 53583000


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 0 0 0
4: 0 67.8 43.8 16
8: 16 4.5036e+15 4.5036e+15 0
12: 1 44 0 2.43513e-295
16: 4.90827e-193 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0
24: 0 2.65249e-315 0 0
28: 0 0 0 5.58058e-222

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82004000


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0002F030
Condition (cr) : 0x44422042
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x6B551BD4
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x20000002
Count (ctr) : 0x6BF6D7E8
Link (lr) : 0x6BF6D8D4
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x00000000
Data Address (dar) : 0x6F440264



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x6B551BD4 belongs to module "" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:

libQtCore.so:_Z21resource_file_handlerv()+0x1f4 (section 10 @ 0x18A2E0)
libQtCore.so:_Z22qt_force_resource_initv()+0x2c (section 10 @ 0x18A458)
libQtCore.so:_Z41__static_initialization_and_destruction_0ii()+0x64 (section 10 @ 0x18A4D8)
libQtCore.so:_GLOBAL__I__ZN16QResourcePrivate5clearEv()+0x38 (section 10 @ 0x18A544)
libQtCore.so:__shlib_call_constructors()+0x68 (section 10 @ 0x6C)
native kernel module elf.library.kmod+0x0000814c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00001f28
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d3c
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002eb8
InternetSurfBoard:_start()+0x170 (section 8 @ 0x170)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x00022d9c
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b4b0
native kernel module kernel+0x0003b530

Guys, be realistic. 5k? The community is too small. 6700 for TW many years ago, 3000 for JIT. We didn't even reach 5600$ expected to open source Opus Magellan....and there are supporters from all camps. I'm not saying Fab's work is worth less but simply, I can't see the money. There is also no guarantee the code (for OS4) will not be abandon , like MUI OWB.
Yes, I agree the whole situation does not look good. More up to date browser is more important than office suite IMO...

The only solution is some kind of miracle will happen and a talented programmer and AOS4 geek will show his interest.