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Re: python3.8 AmigaOS4 in development

Posted on: 2021/2/12 16:48 #141

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@afxgroup

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Regard the unix. What do you mean with /T one level up? can you write me an example using existing functions?

With path translation on /T is unix for T: with it off it's the equivalent of unixs ../T thus if you are writing an amigaos program rather than a port you generally do not want lib unix enabled. So it's important it not be the default.

WRT to patching configure file you'll need to do that anyway to support multiple c libraries.

I never did a port where at least some degree of tweeking was required for it

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Re: python3.8 AmigaOS4 in development

Posted on: 2021/2/12 10:44 #142

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@afxgroup

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lunix now is enabled by default

That's areally bad idea, it was kept seperate to enable use for both AmigaOS programs and unix ports. Does that mean path translation is on by default? How can you tell if /T is a volume or directory one level up then?

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Re: python3.8 AmigaOS4 in development

Posted on: 2021/2/12 10:39 #143

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@afxgroup

Configure files work out shared object extenstions by themselves, or at least as an option, Windoze doesn't use .so but .dll for example

Normally ofcouse (in a linux system ) there is only one runtime C library at any time so there is no issue.

WRT paths etc in python. There is a whole abstraction api in os.path, a lot of the python code in the library needs the amiga specific stuff adding / updating for the more recent for version.

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Re: python3.8 AmigaOS4 in development

Posted on: 2021/2/12 8:52 #144

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@NinjaCyborg

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You mention new newlib, is that another one of those things os4 devs clique has had for years that mere muggles are not blessed with?

Newlib has been part of the OS since absolutely ages, it was a updated with the recent Update 2 + hotfix release.

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Re: python3.8 AmigaOS4 in development

Posted on: 2021/2/12 8:48 #145

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AmigaOS python that comes with OS is heavily adapted to be 'Amiga like' with support for Amiga style paths and several os based modules much more under the bonnet. Buiding a loonixy python is easy (no disrespect to afxgroup). Getting the amiga stuff patched in is more of a job.

Getting clib2 shared objects working is quite cool. Though I shudder at the idea of managing two sets of incompatable shared objectrs. I wonder if it migth be a good idea to use a different suffix? .c2so perhaps?

For perl I made it's modules use .pso

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Re: Sam460ex serial port and joysticks?

Posted on: 2021/1/27 18:56 #146

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@NinjaCyborg

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( in fact not sure why they bothered with a serial port at all except for debugging )

Exactly for that.

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Re: Sam460ex serial port and joysticks?

Posted on: 2021/1/27 18:35 #147

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@NinjaCyborg

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nce the serial port on the Sam460ex is male DB9, can one connect amiga joysticks to it? and does amigainput recognise them and allow their use?

No. Amiga joysticks are designed to go in an amiga mouse port which is not a serial port in anyway shape or form. Remeber that Amiga serial ports were 25(?)pin.

For amiga to usb adapters I found this with google, never used no idea if ti will work with amigaos...

https://monsterjoysticks.com/9-pin-joystick-to-usb-adapter

AmigaKit do a USB joystick for AmigaOnes.

http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=1185

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/23 10:14 #148

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@redfox

Glad it's functioning for you now, but the core issue is still there (not to mention a few other gotchas that are bit more random).

I've got a good amount of data out of this conversation to start fixing it though...

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/22 17:58 #149

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@redfox

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I did not install the Enhancer NotificationsServer but I do get some notifications from the old RinghioServer.

So you have RinghioServer in your WBStartup? The original one that came with the OS? (or very early aeon version?).

Try disabling that and see if you still get the lockups.

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Ranger shows a port called UPDATER.1 .... this port disappears after I click the close window (quit) gadget on the Updater window..

Cannot relaunch Updater but other programs launch ok, including web browsers.

Yes updater main process closes down but waits before final exit for it's child process (possibly while unregistering the app), the child process is hung.

The program needs some rework whatever your findings are but they will hwlp me work out if there are other issues than the ones I have identified.

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/22 16:33 #150

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@redfox

Hmm interesting. Do you have the enhancer NotificationsServer running ? Do you see a notification just before the hang?

Just to be sure have you tested since installing the hotfix? (and rebooting)

I only see the issue with 53.29 and 53.31 (beta versions) and not if NotificationServer is running so that the internal notifications a showiing.

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/22 15:59 #151

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@redfox

What version of application.library do you have installed?

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/22 10:10 #152

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@broadblues

Bug report here

http://www.amiga.org/developer/bugreports/view.php?id=710

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/22 9:57 #153

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@redfox

No these are bugs I have seen too in the past.

it sounds like in your case it hasn't removed the disabling of the window after completeing the download. Perhaps it is still waiting for a sub thread. This might be why you can't restart it, as it hasn't really quit. A tool like ranger would tell you if it's still there in the background.

Ironically the fact you could close the window whilst it's greyed out and nominally disabled is probably also a bug!

I can exactly reproduce your bug in test I just did. I'll raise a mantis about it.

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/20 18:38 #154

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@Raziel

Now *that* would be copyright infringement.

But they are really two very different things.

You can't copyright a process , (but you can patent it, but I don't think any patents applay in this case) and you can't copyright somethings name, (though you can sometimes trademark it, again no trademarks involved here).

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/20 13:32 #155

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@Raziel

What you describe is not copyright infringement.

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Re: pythonSSL updated on os4depot.net

Posted on: 2021/1/20 8:37 #156

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@tekmage

They changed it in the mean time.

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/19 14:36 #157

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@billyfish

I agree that this is sensible idea in most cases, and to a large extent already te case

MultiView ->MultiViewer
Notepad -> MultiEdit
RAWBinfo ->InfoWB

if we had our way it would be Format ->Formater too though Matthew disagrees

etc

but sound.datatype can only really be called sound.datatype esle the subclasses like wav.datatype et al wouldn't be able to find it.

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pythonSSL updated on os4depot.net

Posted on: 2021/1/18 12:36 #158

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I've just released an update to pythonssl on os4depot.

Unfortunatly the last build was built against AmiSSL 4.3 which was the release with a bug that prevented the backwards compatabilty aspect of amissl from working so it may have stopped working for you if you installed AmiSSL 4.4 or later

The new version was rebuilt with AmiSSL 4.7

http://os4depot.net/?function=showfil ... ibrary/misc/pythonssl.lha

If you have recently upgraded to FE Update 2 or Update2 plus Hotfix you should probably reinstall pythonssl as the additional bsdsocket.library based socket and select modules it replaces will have been overwritten.

Edited by orgin on 2021/1/20 5:31:01

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/9 11:55 #159

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@kas1e

Could be please add this info to the bug report else it will be lost as I'm not going to hve time to trawl forums for details.

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Re: Updater locking up

Posted on: 2021/1/9 11:43 #160

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@kas1e

Thanks moved it to listviewer

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