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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@gerograph

Welcome to Amigans.net!

No news yet but it's coming.
On Sam440 you can have only 2 boot sources, due to a limitation of Uboot. As you probably have a hard drive and a CDROM drive, there's no room for another hard drive.

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Re: Hi, Newbie alert....
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@Quagmire

Welcome back to the the Amiga land.

So this thread is about cars? Here is mine: click here

Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
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Re: New Amiga Site... Help Needed
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@EARTHLING

I would love to see a website where you don't need to use the search function.
I' hope you'll find someone to do it.

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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@joerg

Just because the Parthenope on this CD is the most recent one. i.e. more recent than the one on the Debian CD.

@HunoPPC

One member of ACube did it using Parthenope from the update CD, an OS4 partition in SFS0 (with a 1024 blocksize) and he can boot both systems.
I did it but could not make it. If you have more time than me, you may try that.


Edited by Elwood on 2008/11/11 13:26:29
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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@HunoPPC

Could you try with the Parthenope which is in this CD?

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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@Mrodfr

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we know that the UBOOT for SAM allow to boot with just ONE OS and no more possible to install LInux disto at the same time.


not yet!!! I hope that it will be possible soon.

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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@joerg

Are you sure?
Uboot has ext2 commands but no ext3 commands:
ext2load- load binary file from a Ext2 filesystem
ext2ls - list files in a directory (default /)

Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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I found that the Linux partition must be formated in Ext2 in order for SLB to find the a1boot.conf (so SLB does not support Ext3).

Thanks Huno for this line
DEBIAN /boot/uImage root=/dev/sdb2

Now I'm at the same level as you. The kernel is loaded but it fails during the decompressing.


@Mrodfr

Did you install Debian? and are you at the same level of us i.e. Debian is installed but you can't boot it


Edited by Elwood on 2008/11/9 20:13:59
Edited by Elwood on 2008/11/9 20:52:06
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Re: NTFS driver for OS4?
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@LiveForIt

I don't think your comment was meant for me, did it?

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Re: Sam the final frontier...
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@magic

Excellent!

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Re: NTFS driver for OS4?
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@Chris

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There's no real documentation for this stuff in the autodocs, includes or even the RKRMs

If you have any tutorial/example that could be included in the OS4 SDK, send it to me

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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@Faranheit

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I can add an entry without problems but I don't know what to add in order to boot Amiga OS 4 from here !


Then read again my post

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Re: Debian / Dual boot on Sam 440EP
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@Faranheit

Dual boot is possible.
The SLB of AmigaOS can boot AmigaOS *and* Linux partitions.
Install everything from the Debian CD. Reboot and in Debian, create the file a1boot.conf in /boot. Use something like:
debian console=tty0 boot=/boot/uImage root=/dev/sda4
Copy the uImage file from the Debian CD (in the sam440ep directory) into your /boot directory.

Finally boot on the AmigaOS CD to put the L:SLB back on the disk.

The SLB will allow you to boot the AOS partition and the Debian one.


Edited by Elwood on 2008/11/5 23:59:24
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Re: Your Amigans Featured Donations for November 2008
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@Mikey_C

Matthias "Corto" for his webcam driver and work on sqllite and pointrider.
Rigo for his touchscreen driver and Codebench (not released yet though).

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Re: owb 2.13
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@K-L

Alternatively, you can fill a bug report on this site.

Bye

Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
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Re: Special review of the Colmar show
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@K-L

The Amigans are worldwide so English was obvious.

Now everyone please translate this and post it on every Amiga website.

Thanks.

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Special review of the Colmar show
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Hello fellow Amigans,

I?m back from the Colmar show and I have a feeling I would like to share with you. Here is a short story of how was the show and how it was made possible.

The show

This computer show was made of 60 stands mostly filled by companies. They had their product demoed be it Windows, Linux or Mac-based. The visitors were individuals or complete families, almost no professional people were there. Thus the target audience was clearly the home public.
We, Amigans, had only one stand. Only one presence of Amiga in the show wouldn?t be enough to create enough interest in the visitors mind. It means they would left the show without even remembering the Amiga name. But ? this is not what happened!

We had a Minimig showing A500 demos (State of the Art, Desert Dream?) and games (Xenon II, Lotus?.). We had 2 Sam boards showing AmigaOS 4.1. We had a kiosk with a touchscreen and a Sam board that everyone could try.
But we had more. We had Amigans.

Almost all people that went near our stand didn?t understand what we were showing. You could read on their face a feeling which means ?Huh??. This is where our work began. We explained them what is the Amiga, where it comes from and what it can do today. We showed the OS, we showed the apps, we played videos. Well, we did what one could expect from an operating system.
All of us on the stand didn?t stop for 3 days long, showing and explaining the same ideas all over again. When one people left the stand, another one came and we did it again.

The people that already knew the Amiga thanks to its history were surprised to see it running again, and with modern features too. Those that didn?t know the Amiga were surprised to learn there was an alternative platform to Win/Linux/Mac. Of course they asked what would be the benefits to use such system compared to the big players. Answering that Sam power consumption is only 20 Watts and that OS4 boots in 25 seconds was more than enough to create the ?Wow? effect on them. Our kiosk with its touchscreen was also very useful to show them it was possible to control an operating system with just one finger.

Be sure the people left the show with the name ?Amiga? engraved in their mind. They probably won?t buy an Amiga but the keyword in this sentence is ?probably?. It means some of them will now check the web sites for more information about our system. They may be attracted by what they will see, as we all were many years ago. So it is possible they start to like our system and in the end they join us.
Other people will forget about the Amiga name until, maybe in 2 years from now, they see this name again in a magazine, on a web site or on another computer show. At this time, they will remember their visit to the Colmar show and they will remember how fun the Amiga stand was. Again, they may become new Amiga users.

Do you understand what I?m talking about? The more we speak about the Amiga, the more we build a future for it. We must be in everyone?s mind for the moment where they will be ready to jump into the Amiga train.


What made this possible?

A lot of you think that ?if you are not a developer then you can?t help the platform?. This is plain wrong! Let me give you some details about what made the stand at the Colmar show possible.

Yoda, a French Amigan, managed to have a stand. X-Ray from Relec Switzerland brought many stuff to show on the stand. I spent many hours doing a presentation and drove 400 Kms too. Guibrush did many interviews on the show. ACube Systems sent me a Sam and a Flex to show it on the show. Tony ?ToP? Pascoal (Kiosklinea) drove for 500 Kms to bring his kiosk. Voxel and Amigacenter drove many Kms to join us. Niels Bache came from Denmark with a two days trip!!!
And guess what? None of us is a developer.

Three weeks before the show, X-Ray told me that ToP could bring a kiosk to the show. I had a Sam board which was suitable for doing a multimedia kiosk running OS4. Now the only problem was having a driver for a touchscreen as having a kiosk without such screen would have been like having an Amiga without responsiveness. I remembered I read somewhere that Rigo had already such driver since a long time on OS4. I then contacted both Rigo and ToP to understand how we could manage having a driver for the touchscreens ToP could provide. We came to the conclusion that the only way to know if it would be feasible would be to try. So ToP sent his touchscreen to Rigo. The date of the show became very close and after several tests, Rigo understood that it wouldn?t be possible to write a driver for this touchscreen in a few days. He then packed again the screen ready to send it back. After a day (and maybe a few beers), he decided not to just give up and he gave it another ? winning try.
Rigo then drove for 11 hours (!!!) to bring the touchscreen in time for the Colmar show. Directly on the place, we built the full product: the kiosk, the Sam, the touchscreen, the driver and OS4.1.

At the conference I held about AmigaOS and the ACube products, there were 30 or more people, whereas other conferences - one of them being about MacOS X - didn?t attract more than 10 people! Of course many Amigans attended the conference but what do you think everyone will remember? The Amiga conference was the biggest of the show. Plain and simple.
Also, the guy doing the organisation of the show came at the end to congratulate us. He said that our Amiga stand was probably the one with the most visitors.

What should you learn from this story? As you see, every action counts, every move, every ideas. Making a platform a success does not mean only developing programs. You can do important actions even doing simple things as meeting together, joining a user group and showing the fun you have when using your system.
Many people of the outside don?t even know that using a computer can be fun. Maybe they have so many problems that they hate their computers. Maybe they feel alone in front of their problems and they have no choice to pay to have support. :-/
But we ? we have a community of helpful people, ready to help anyone.


Your turn now

I would like all of you to advertise all around you this peculiarity of the community, the responsiveness of AmigaOS, the low consumption of Sam, the fun that comes out of using our operating system.
Each of you can play an important part in building the future of our platform. Let?s all work together, let?s move as a whole, let?s build our future.

Thanks for reading. Now go to work


Edited by Elwood on 2008/10/31 19:43:59
Edited by Elwood on 2008/11/2 20:47:53
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Re: Web browser by Hyperion - feasible?
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@abalaban

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in french "feasible" is synonym for "doable", as in "*if* we wanted, we can do it".


Not necessarily. It can be technically feasible and I agree that everything is possible. But it can't be feasible for Hyperion and their limited time. You know they have an OS they must take care of!

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Sam falling down from the stars
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Hi,

I like the new SAM texts flying by in the Amigans.net logo

Philippe 'Elwood' FERRUCCI
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Re: Netsurf development
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@Chris

Tell the core team that several hundreds people are waiting for them

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