@Deniil

Quote:

Hum, I'm an expert for that

BTW, this is the thing that afraid me the most

I really would like to see TonyW explain what happened to FAT32 improvements (hope some more has been made since my last thread about this subject).

@ChrisH

I really would like to see a picture with the new shell in action.... for example, what are on the right mouse button menu of the newshell.

Hope that will look like a look kingCON and even more...

yes, I'm curious....

@all

MEsa 7.9 (AROS) and gallium (AROS) to AOS4.

or

OpenGL (???) and gallium (AROS) to AOS4.


After the port to AROS, AOS4 will use all of them ??


Translation:

Want to know if AOS4 will use:

1- MESA and GALLIUM from AROS.
or
2- OPENGL (new port) and GALLIUM from AROS.

I want to know the origin because if all ports for AOS4 are new that mean some time to be made and if based on AROS, less time to be made, thats all...

As hans answered recently MESA and GALLIUM, for me the port for AOS4 is 99% based from the AROS port (of course IMHO)....

but Kas1e allready explained on his post #29 that not will be so easy because AOS4 have some differencies he has well explained...

@kas1e

OpenGL (???): just mean unknown origin and one, two or tree ??? is allways the same question

@Rogue

Quote:

As Hans said on the Freddix thread problem , It's MESA and GALLIUM. For your information

@all

MEsa 7.9 (AROS) and gallium (AROS) to AOS4

or

OpenGL (???) and gallium (AROS) to AOS4.


After the port to AROS, AOS4 will use all of them ??

@Vulture

Some peoples advised me to use sfs/02 (more than 128go) but allways use 512 bytes as blocks.

@Mrodfr

Just to said I have posted 3 pictures about the work done on my SAM tower to put a Power Over E-SATA expansion.

http://www.amigans.net/uploads/photos/326.jpg

http://www.amigans.net/uploads/photos/327.jpg

http://www.amigans.net/uploads/photos/328.jpg

@nexus

In fact, I have discovered and followed your old thread on amigaworld, about this subject

With the slot, I have also baught this 2.5" case and use the external Power-Over-E-SATA cable, who came on the package.

http://www.delock.de/produkte/gruppen ... 42465.html?setLanguage=EN


I have planned to make one picture or two when the little hardware will work


EDIT: Work fine now (the external HD now blink).

When I have fitted the molex to 4 wires power supply cable, the red wire on the molex, who came from the picoPSU, go back inside his connector.

The result is just 12V from the Yellow and nothing on the Red (5V). Again a damned molex made in China.


Now working fine!!!!.


COPY SPEED:

block 512: 12 mo/s -> 720 mo/min.
block 1024: 13 mo/s -> 780 mo/min.

NOTE: Need to save also the setting of the first HD (ready(!) (because last lun checked when just one HD).


Question: What is the max partition size with SFS, SFS2, FFS ??

@ssolie

I have planned to do that but first I must test if power supply arrive to the little hardware with a multimeter.

Apparently, no power supply (because the HD never have his led blink) and maybe It's caused because I use a PicoPSU (but I don't think It's the cause....).

Just ideas one after another

The little hardwra eare cheap and interesting to have one or more external PowerOver E-SATA and even one additionnal USB but unfortunately I haven't managed to make this hardware working untill now...

Hello,

I have installed this hardware:

http://www.delock.de/produkte/gruppen ... 61824.html?setLanguage=FR

or

http://www.delock.de/produkte/gruppen ... TAp_5VSLASH12V_61725.html

on the SAM440EP on REDONE tower (MAPOWER KC3000).

ETIT: Click on the flags for your langage.


Power-Over-ESATA is new. no need to powered the extarnal hardware, all is on the external SATA cable.

The slot have a 4 wire power supply from the main power supply and of course a ESATA connector (and this one also an USB external connector).


with the internal power suply 4 wire and the internal sata cable on the last 2 free SATA connector and with the internal USB cable fitted on the last USB1 connector on the SAM MB, nothing work. No led activity on the external HD.

this problem even when rebooting the SAM440ep.


For me, theorically just need the internal 4 wires power supply and the internal SATA cable.


I'm searching:

- People who actually allready use PO-E-SATA on their amiga for advices.

- Suggestions about things to active on the Uboot or somewhere else or maybe impossible to do that because hardware problem like the MB or thigs not supported on the Uboot untill now or the power supply or.........


NOTE: I use a PicoPSU 80W who deliver 5V and 12V. I don't think Its a power supply problem...

Thanks for your help


First, allready someone use P-O-E-SATA on his amiga ???

P-O-E-SATA = Power Over E-SATA 5V/12V

@kas1e

I know that It's not a tool for me because I'm not a C developer but I'm curious and would like to know what look like gdb

what is the use of this strange button on grim reaper !


I have installed SDK, but the minimal installation, and replaced the old gdb by the new one.

Have launched a tool that crash and gdb was unable to found something at $xxxxxxxx.

After I have launched another tool and a DSI and another tool and a DSI. Apparently, the use of GDB crash tool after the use of GDB.


I'm not the good guy for this tool but I'm curious to know if this tool could help a programmer who do cross compiling with cygwin enviroment to found the errors on AOS4 by sending to him GDB outputs.

also help work but stack command not work (same for some other commands) ?

@redfox

Timberwolf with SFS partition take maybe 12 seconds to open and some more for fridens HQ. Verry quick for a first port IMHO.

@all

His A1 is allways out of order but let him explain more here about the status of WxWidgets and his A1.

@all

Thanks to kas1e and sba for working together on GDB.

kas1e, do you have thinked to help sba on valgrind port ???
(yes, I know you help a lot amigaOS with all your work and port on the machine and I'm annoyed a lot to write that).

@all

Others problems with FAT32: (I came from a friend who have seven). size of FAT32 medias.


problem 1:

OCZ RALLY2 16go key formatted with a cluster size of 4096 (minimal with seven on the PC).

- AOS4.1U2 recognize the key as 512 blocks size ?????


problem 2:

on seven, the size of the key is 15.xx go and the cluster size is 32 ko.

- AOS4.1U2 show the USB key:

used: 16 mo (32 816 blocks).
free: 14.9 go (31 277 08 blocks).

- DOPUS4 show the size of the key: 16013828096 octets.

Seven on the PC, AOS4.1U2 and dopus4 not show the exact value of my formatted key !!!!!

@Hans

Thanks for this new version

AOS4 allways have the hope to see their 3D as fast as MorphOS.

Thanks to amiupdate for the verry easy update via amiupdate.

@jahc

Quote:

Look like just with some weeks without amiga miss you a lot Nice to have some news from you...

@all

more easy to make Timberworlf with Sobj, that without !.

Sobj allow to port "half native" program to AOS4 and not allow to reinvent the wheel, to make a same program like on linux.

Also "Half native" program can allow new user to like AOS4 because some programs look like the same they use on linux or other platforms.

Honestly, Timberworlf who use original menus GUI are for me allready verry great.

When we will see actual Timberwolf working fine with Sobj, everybody will be happy and will like Sobj

Quote:

Classic and poseidon 3.8 for spider2 and FAT95:

I have inserted the HD on the classic with poseidon and spider2:

- drive and clusters are recognized.
- names of the 2 partitions not known (just default numbers) but recognized (drive made with a special tool on the PC).

Just with poseidon, the free space decreased slowly ? (Maybe caused by the clusters size) that mean this HD not work completely well with poseidon 3.8.


AOS3 (FAT95 program) recognized more clusters size than AOS4 ?!?.

Hello,

Following my thread about the memguard hit, some facts from the FAT32 support on AOS4, who need to be really updated.

Feel free to discuss if problems or if something missing and technical explanations about the problems or advice to never use FAT32 or just with small capacity, are welcomed..


Format FAT32 big capacity:

For example, my 16go key take 10 minuts to make a quick format and the progress bar not work.

When finished, 250 mo are in use, the rest are free.


- Do we really try to format something FAT32 on the amiga ?

- If yes, what is the size limit (if a size limit exist) ???


Clusters:

Formatting by default my HD on Seven and not work on AOS4. AOS4 said that the cluster size seven choose by default are bigger that 4096.

- FAT32 on AOS4 need to support more clusters size.

(I know 512 octets is a good size but the FAT32 HD will be used as a big filesize storage).



Copy on FAT32:

Copy datas on FAT32 medias with AOS4 give sooner or later datas crash with 8+3 filename and big size.

IMHO, the problem should came from protect flag not present on AOS4 files but need ot be confirmed.

- What are the actual problems of FAT32 support on AOS4 ?



FAT32 is important. For sharing the datas between differents OS, a perfect FAT32 support for AOS4 is verry verry necessary IMHO.