@Maijestro

Given that Amiga is very much a hobby for people who simply enjoy tinkering, it's a very small price to pay to buy what little commercial software is released. I pay for pretty much every new bit of Amiga software that comes out whether I use it or not, and if I do use it it's probably for hours at the most. But I still pay.

@Hans

LOL no worries I'm happy it had plenty of responses including plenty of on-topic ones.

Besides I'm also curious about the ffmpeg port and Emotion - on the one hand I'm glad the EntwicklerX team made it, on the other hand I wish there was better documentation and/or there isn't so much good stuff hidden behind the 'only OS4 beta testers and Enhancer team insider have the cool stuff'. At this point I'm pretty sure there are more people who are insiders than left on the outside like me. So why not do things in the open.

@rjd324

what's that supposed to mean? because it's more OS3 related?

@joerg

Yes of course I'm aware of datatypes and the IFF system.. Quicktime even in those days was an order of magnitude more sophisticated, it was a proper pipelining multimedia framework with pluggable codecs, containers, source and sinks, timers etc.

Amiga had datatypes, realtime library and, uh, nothing else. A natural addition therefore would be a multimedia framework IMHO.

Well the topic is what features should have come next in the roadmap, not what leadership was missing. The latter is well understood and not particularly interesting to debate IMHO. The former is I think still a fun intellectual exercise at least for me.

The delta between AmigaOS and the MacOS of the day, and even windows 95 is not that big, Amiga was even ahead in some areas of course, and behind in a lot of others. But the gap is not huge when factoring in the 'third party' stuff like AmiTCP, Reaction (albeit MFC was a lot more substantial than Reaction), Envoy, P96, AHI, and your own efforts among others. Again, in my mind the biggest miss is a multimedia framework like Mac had with Quicktime, and to a lesser extent windows media. I like what the EntwhistlerX guys have done with Emotion and FFMpeg. I feel that comes close to filling the gap for OS4.

Yes true but not on topic

Any update to Emotion? any SDK for the ffmpeg wrapper?

One of my Amiga obsessions is what-if-ing over what AmigaOS would be in it's next iteration after the original 3.1.

Now of course we have a real 3.2, which is wonderful, and it certainly does a great job of 'finishing' the things left hanging like adding Help and BOOPSI (with Reaction), as well as rounding out things like modern filesystem support.

Then of course we have defacto standard extensions such as P96 and AHI.

So what's left? If there was an Amiga 1400 in 1995 for example, what features would it have to help it compete with Mac OS 7.6 and 8, and Windows 3.11 and 95?

I don't mean memory protection and things that the hardware just can't do, and I also exclude virtual memory since memory is cheap now even if it wasn't then.

Some obvious candidates - TCP/IP and LAN working were filled then by AmiTCP and Envoy, and now by Roadshow, and SMBFS.

For me the obvious missing piece is a multimedia framework, equivalent to Quicktime, or gstreamer. I'd like to think there's a parallel universe where Amiga had its own Quicktime like API with all that that entails.

What's on your wishlist?

ask chatGPT, it knows Amiga stuff!

there's no driver for it. but it wouldn't be a huge job to create one, relative to other things AmigaOS is missing at least

The guys behind the Emotion player have a full ffmpeg port for OS4 with amiga-ized libraries. While I understand they charge for Emotion - and I've paid for it - wouldn't it be nice if they released their ffmpeg patches

I would happily back any kickstarter or patreon or similar by the legitimate owners of Amiga to support ongoing development of OS3 and 4

But I'm not sure what this offers that all the various Amiga boards already offer, except perhaps Moderators?

There was an Envoy service back in the day that did this also

I use a sapphire 6450 card - low profile, single width, low wattage and passive cooling. However, this cannot do 3D and video acceleration.

For that, try any RX550

LOL at everyone's stupid answers

what's a .BAT file?

@walkero as discussed before I think there are issues with OS4 compiler, cross or otherwise, to do with TLS or something. the russian guy knows more

Yes future updates, the repo is up to date as of a few days ago (look at the branches and updates feed, not the root folder dates)

Actually jacadcaps has commented elsewhere that he thinks it's not infeasible to make a MUI or similar control that embeds the webkit. Unfortunately it's beyond my abilities and spare time.

it's possible there are compiler dependencies on OS4 GCC that cannot be met, see other threads for that

Find it here https://github.com/jacadcaps/webkitty

I paid him to open source his webkit patches. For the greater good. You can find it on github. His morphos specific code however is of no use to any other Amigoid platform as it uses a MorphOS specific Objective-C based framework, so there'd still be a lot of work to do. However, his webkit is a lot newer than the odyssey webkit so a good place to start would be aiming to replace odyssey webkit with the wayfarer engine.

@AmigaOldskooler

Nonsense, Disqus is totally free and doesn't require a 'special' wordpress subscription at all.