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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
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The new Rave app looks awesome. Trixie, you rule. Looking forward to use it. I am regularly using such apps, in conjunction with AudioEvolution. They are extremely useful.

Thanks for doing this.

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@trixie
Rave...Nice!
Thanks for all your contributions and it looks like another great one.
I see a record button. Will it have the ability to record audio from a Mic Input?

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@kas1e

Stay tuned for the first beta And... I'm glad somebody actually uses Exchanger!

@walkero

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I am regularly using such apps, in conjunction with AudioEvolution.

Which are the ones you use, out of curiosity? I still like SoundFX, although it's showing its age, and can be a bit difficult to grasp because of its scope.

@ktadd

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I see a record button. Will it have the ability to record audio from a Mic Input?

It will record from anything AHI presents as an audio input.

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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
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@trixie

Thank you, nice to see productivity software in development!

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@trixie

Very nice!!!

Rave will be a good replacement of AmisoundED

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This is awesome news, well done! I'll definitely be using this when it's available

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Way to go Trixie!

Looking forward to this new tool.

Will it make it possible to fix pops in a sample (e.g. a recorded vinyl with a scratch) by zooming in and manually editing the waveform?

That would be very useful for me and something I haven't found in any modern (i.e. 16+ bit sample capable) Amiga program.

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Niels

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@sinisrus

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Rave will be a good replacement of AmisoundED

I will be honoured if people think so

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@nbache

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Will it make it possible to fix pops in a sample (e.g. a recorded vinyl with a scratch) by zooming in and manually editing the waveform?

Not any time soon I'm afraid A more likely solution is a plugin that detects and repairs pops in a given sample or selection.

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Re: Introducing the Rear Window blog
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@trixie

This Rave seems pretty interesting

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@trixie

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A more likely solution is a plugin that detects and repairs pops in a given sample or selection.
Yeah, I've seen that feature offered in some programs (mostly on other platforms, but I think SoX can do it too).

I just feel more in control when I can see the changes I make one by one and make sure they are not a sound that is supposed to be there (some percussion instrument or something).

Although I have to admit the few times I've actually used a manual waveform editor (in Exact Audio Copy on a PC) to fix up a sample of a pretty scratched vinyl track, it has taken much too much of my time, so maybe it's time to weigh the pros and cons of the automated approach.

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@nbache

Of course both approaches (manual and automatic) have their pros and cons. The reason I'm saying the automatic approach is more likely to happen is that Rave's plugin system is ready to adopt a piece of processing code, whereas the waveform display module is not ready for manual editing.

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I think SoX can do it too

Speaking of SoX... it would be interesting to see if libsox could be used as a processing engine (today, no-one writes their own DSP code anymore, you simply use one of the existing libraries). I'll see if I can coax anybody into porting it for me. Should be easier than porting the full SoX, especially as I don't need the I/O routines (sample loading/saving is already handled by Rave's sndio.module, which is based on libsndfile - port courtesy of Fredrik Wikstrom).

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@trixie

How about getting your software "Rave" to use the XMOS XS1-L2 124 onboard chip. (XENA) With some sort of bridgeout board that could be used for Audio related tasks..... Soundcard, Midi, Ofloading of audio related stuff...

Just thinking about how the X5000 users could use that extras piece of hardware... I could also have had to much to drink yesterday.



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There's already too much on my plate, and considering (watch out, understatement coming!) how few actual applications the Xena chip has seen, the answer is a friendly but firm no If the Xena were a dedicated DSP chip then there would be options to explore, but being an arcane and apparently useless piece of hardware...

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@trixie

I understand. Looking forward to your first Rave beta

Keep up the great work.


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@trixie

SoX was already ported to OS4 (not the lib, but the program itself):

http://os4depot.net/?function=showfile&file=audio/convert/sox.lha

Not sure if that helps in what you want with it.

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@nbache

I know, but unfortunately the executable doesn't help at all I really need the lib. Not a top priority though, as I'm working on other stuff at the moment. Plus, I have another DSP library already ported, so it gives me a start. (Libsox would still be a welcome addition because it is more high-level and has more effects).

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@trixie

Rave definitely looks sweet! Is it commercial software or free? File requester looks interesting too, is it replacement for ASL written only for this program? Plugin system is a good idea.

So far I've used AmiSoundED but it's pretty basic for larger editing. I've used Stefan Kost's SoundFX too but nowadays it's quite outdated, unstable and never liked the way you select the range in sample window

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Rave definitely looks sweet! Is it commercial software or free?

Rave will be offered on a "pay-as-you-grow" basis. The main program and a basic set of plugins will be free, allowing you to do common tasks such as editing samples, changing volume, applying fade in/out, etc. The default free feature set will be larger than AmiSoundEd's but smaller than that of SoundFX.

Many users will never grow out of the default feature set, meaning that they won't have to pay anything. Composers and studio users, however, will probably want more. This is where the commercial plugins enter the scene. Their development will be a continuous process.

This business model will allow advanced users to pick up new functionality as it becomes available and, of course, to decide whether they actually need it for their work or not. The model will also allow me to cover some of the costs associated with running the Rear Window website etc.

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@trixie

Sounds good. Why not just make the Standard version a few bucks.

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