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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@AlfaR0me0

Note: explanation given with wordworth7.

FIRST:

copy on your user-startup.

YOUR:HD/LOCATION must be changed to your Wordworth location !!!

;----------------------------------------------
;BEGIN wordworth7
Assign Libs: YOUR:HD/LOCATION/Wordworth7/Libs add
;END wordworth7
;----------------------------------------------

SECOND:

on your SYS:...../env-archive, make a draver called:

Wordworth

and inside, a file called: Wwfonts

inside this file (created with a txt editor), just the location of the WW fonts. example:

YOUR:HD-LOCATION/Wordworth7/WwFonts


Inside Wordworth7:

catalogs
cliparts
documents
filters
help
libs (with digita libs inside)
modules
spell
wwfiles
wwfonts
wwrexx
wwtools

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@Mrodfr

My WordWorth has no Libs drawer.
Already installed twice but with same results all other drawers exist but Libs drawer isn't installed.
I had decompressed WorthWorth archives by hand and there is no Libs
drawer inside.
I have an iso image with WordWorth and maybe its incomplete :(

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@AlfaR0me0

libs
-> digitafont.library
-> digitaintellifont.library
-> digitapostscript.library
-> digitatruetype.library
-> post.library

It's finally not for you a AOS4.1U1 problems but just missing wordworth files.... Theorically all files are present with the original software media.

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@all

C:WBStartupCTRL is broken
It doesn't add anything (not even the example taken 1:1 from the docs work)

See details in this thread

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@Mrodfr

Thanks for your help.

Found that WorthWorth7 intalled that libraries in my System:Libs/ directory.
I installed WordWorth7 in WinUAE and it works, so there is no malfuncion with my WordWorth installation CD.
Don?t know why WW7 didn?t work with my OS4.1.1, I will install WW6 instead.

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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2006/11/27 17:18
From West Jordan, Utah, USA
Posts: 383
@Jack

Quote:

Jack wrote:
Just installed the update, and found this:

Quote:
Ringhio is a system-wide notification server for AmigaOS 4.1 NOLINE
NOLINE: Unknown command
NOLINE failed returncode 10
NOTIFICATIONS is a preference editor for the Ringhio server NOLINE
NOLINE: Unknown command
NOLINE failed returncode 10
No description available NOLINE
NOLINE: Unknown command
NOLINE failed returncode 10


I looked with text editor into ringhi binary and found "C:echo %s NOLINE >Ram:tmp.txt" that might provide a clue.


Jack,

Have you found a solution to this problem yet? I just updated DiskImage through AmiUpdate this moring, and now I'm getting this also when I reboot.



Edit:

Ok, I found most of the solution to my problem here:

http://www.amigans.net/modules/newbb/ ... t_id=45276#forumpost45276

But in my case I had already enabled the Splash Screen on Startup, so I disabled it, rebooted, enabled it, and rebooted back with no more error window.



Edited by Valiant on 2010/2/16 20:12:12
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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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Overall, I think the OS4.1 update 1 is a good package.
Although, there still are some critical (and less critical) issues that need to be fixed (see below).
I really wish Hyperion have some time to have a look at them.

My computer is a Sam440EP (mini-ITX, 667MHz, 512MB RAM) with a clean Amiga OS 4.1 update 1 install.
To measure the CPU usage, I have used CPUInfo.


Summary:

1) Multitasking
a) Limited resources left for GUI-interactions
b) Delayed access to partitions in certain circumstances

2) DVD-rom read/write speed
a) Slow write speed
b) Slow read speed
c) Adjusting read speed of DVD-roms using IdeTool

3) (Partly) non-working USB devices
a) Razer Copperhead gaming mouse (laser)
b) Corruption of flash memory cards (formatting issue?)

4) Kickstart-function "Rename" in DOS.library




Details:

1) Multitasking

a) Limited resources left for GUI-interactions

When the CPU usage is 100% when running several programs in parallell, I get problems moving the mouse pointer; The mouse pointer lags behind.

All tasks have priority 0.

My opinion is that tasks related to mouse pointer movements and keyboard keypresses should always have the highest priority, and/or the user should have the opportunity to choose the priority himself.
I think this is important in order to avoid problems when/if programs "hang".

Example:
Several programs together uses 100% of the CPU (and maybe the GPU), and it's impossible to close the application (because the mouse pointer can't be moved).
If the mouse pointer always had top priority, I could have closed the application to free resources (or reduce the application's task priority).



b) Delayed access to partitions in certain circumstances

While copying between/to/from flash memory cards (via USB) or from a DVD-rom drive, other tasks don't get the CPU resources they need.
This prevents efficient use of my computer.
(PS: As soon as the copy is finished, everything works as normal again).

In my tests, some of the files being copied were large (up to 800MB each).

Examples:
- When running other tasks from the shell at the same time as the copy, they don't get the CPU-resources they need. According to CPUInfo, the CPU usage is unusual low (<30-35%). In my testcase I used OpenSFV (which normally uses much CPU).
When the copy is finished, the tasks runs as normal again.

- When burning files to DVD, it's almost impossible to access directories and files on the same partition as the burning software is reading from (0,5-1,5 minutes waiting time). Accessing other partitions works better.
I get the delay no matter which program I use; When browsing files directly from my Workbench, from the shell (cd and list commands), from Directory Opus 4, so this is most likely an OS issue. As soon as the burning is finished, the response is quick again.




2) DVD-rom read/write speed
First some general info:

My DVD-burner is a Plextor PX-820SA.
Output from idetool (my current settings for my DVD-rom (unit 0)):

Flags : $0000011D - present, supports DMA, removable media, ATAPI, interrupts used,
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s) / current 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s)
Total blocks : 0
Blocksize : 0
SCSI devtyp : 5
Packet size : 12
Current medium read speed : x 65535 ('65535' stands for max.)
Current medium write speed : x 65535 (idem)
Power mode : 2 / idle (ready for operation)
IO1 / IO2 / BMCR @ : $1100 / $110A / $1120

Here is the description of the issues I have with my DVD-rom:


a) Slow write speed

On my system, a write speed of 4xDVD (5.4MB/sec) seems to be max, though the drive itself should handle up to 20xDVD and the media used supports 16x writing speeds.
The DVD burning software I use is AmiDVD.

I have tried to change the maximum speed with IdeTool, but the result doesn't get any better.

CPUinfo shows me very little CPU load, so it's not the CPU which is the bottleneck here.



b) Slow read speed

The maximum read speed seems to be 2xDVD (2.7MB/sec), though the drive should handle up to 16xDVD. It's a lot of noise from my DVD-rom, so the rotating speed is most likely at maximum.
The strange thing here, is that the reading speed is only 1/2 of the writing speed. Something strange is going on here..

I have tried to change the maximum speed with IdeTool, but the result doesn't get any better.

CPUinfo shows me very little CPU load, so it's not the CPU which is the bottleneck here.



c) Adjusting read speed of DVD-roms using IdeTool

To avoid unnecessary delays and noise from my DVD-rom, I use idetool to reduce the reading speed.
This doesn't work as intended.
It is not possible to reduce the DVD-rom's MAX read speed for DVD-R and DVD-RW media.
However, CD-R and CD-RW media works fine.

Details:
Idetool reports it has changed the max speed to the requested value, but the DVD-rom acts like this:
* DVD-R media: Drive always spins up to MAX rotating speed, even if IdeTool has reported it has changed it to 1x.
* DVD-RW media: Same here. Although with the previous version of the OS4.1, 4xDVD RW media were always read with a low speed (4x?).
* CD-R & CD-RW media: The drive spins up/down to the requested speed when reading (ok).




3) (Partly) non-working USB devices
Below is a list of devices that doesn't work correctly with OS4.1:


a) Razer Copperhead gaming mouse (laser)

When moving the mouse slowly to the right or down, the mouse pointer doesn't move at all.
(Left and up works fine).



b) Corruption of flash memory cards

Copying to/from memory flash cards sometimes leads to corrupt directories and/or files (CRC error and/or cryptical directory names).
The biggest problem with this, is that no error messages are given, so the user doesn't know which files are ok and which aren't.

To detect this error, I have to calculate checksums manually before and recalculate/check it after the file copy (otherwise I don't discover the file errors until it's too late).
The copy in my test was done between 2 cards (SD and Compact Flash) with a 8-in-1 flash card reader.
I got the error above with a Kingston 128MB SD Card. The flashcard was formatted with FAT16 from OS4.1.
After formatting the SD-card on my digicam, everything worked fine.
My best guess is that this bug has something to do with the formatting-routine in OS4.1 + maybe a lack of checksum checks.

Another strange behaviour:
Deleting files sometimes leads to corrupt files.
First I get a "Seek error" message, then the file was unreadable.
Tries deleting the file again, and the file gets deleted as normal.




4) Kickstart-function "Rename" in DOS.library
This function has a different behaviour compared to OS3.x.
The consequences of the bug, is that some files will not be renamed.

Details:
If the parameter which specifies the old filename has exactly the same case'ing as the new one, rename isn't done, even if the file on disk has different case'ing.
This behaviour differ from that in OS3.x, where renaming always is done.

My opinion:
I think this function should have similar behaviour as in OS3.x, rather than trusting the calling program always "knows" the correct case'ing of the old filename.

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@JOS
> 4) Kickstart-function "Rename" in DOS.library

DOS does not check the content of the names,
they are basically passed through to the filesystem below,
whichever one you happen to be using, you didn't say.

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@colinw

I have done some more tests, and the error occur on the RAM-disk only.

On these filesystems, renaming works ok:
- FastFileSystem 53.2 (DOS1)
- SmartFilesystem 1.286 (SFS0)
- SmartFilesystem 1.286 (SFS2)
- JXFileSystem 4.34 (JXF4)


My tests below were done using the standard CLI-command "RENAME".
When running the same tests on a classic Amiga, the result is ok.


Test 1)
old filename on disk: readme.txt
old filename in parameter list: README.TXT
new filename in parameter list: README.TXT
=>Result (RAM): Wrong. Filename was kept unchanged (should have been README.TXT)
=>Result (other filesystems): Ok. Filename was changed to README.TXT

This test was done typing in the following from my shell:
rename from=README.TXT to=README.TXT



Test 2)
old filename on disk: readme.txt
old filename in parameter list: README.TXt
new filename in parameter list: README.TXT
=>Result: Ok (all filesystems). Filename was changed to README.TXT

This test was done typing in the following from my shell:
rename from=README.TXt to=README.TXT

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@JOS
#127
Wow...

My DVD-burner is a Plextor PX-820SA...
Xfer mode : best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s) / best dma 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s) / current 69 (UDMA 5, 100 MB/s)
...

That's your best pio 12 (PIO 4, 16 MB/s)...

Why? Read this:
http://www.intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=notes

- UDMA is currently completely disabled for ATAPI devices (CD|DVD readers|burners), this is because it could not be made safe for a1ide, and this limit was not removed yet in the si680 code. In other words, as of now, your ATAPI devices will only get PIO modes. But no worry, it will come soon for si680....S.Guillard

Edit:
Anyone hear any news on that limit, or again missed something?

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Re: OS4.1 Update 1 problems & solutions
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@Snuffy

Thanks for your feedback.

Ok, I see.
No wonder my DVD-rom's reading/writing speed isn't optimal.

However, I still don't understand why my realworld writing speed is 2x faster than the reading speed, and that I am far away from reaching 16MB/sec.
(maybe the OS chooses a slower PIO-mode than reported by IDETOOL?)

I am really looking forward to getting this fixed.

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