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Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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Is there any chance that Amiga OS 4 will get ported to the Intel/AMD Nvidia/ATI hardware platform in the near future?

I can not see any reason why it should run on an obsolete hardware platform like the Amiga One.

Also: There is a much much broader market for Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD, Nvidia/ATI since almost everyone run such hardware.

Yours sincerely/

Ludde.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Ludde

Nope.

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I can not see any reason why it should run on an obsolete hardware platform like the Amiga One.


Because... thats the hardware it was written for?

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@Ludde

Oh no, not this old chestnut again.

In short, it was amiga inc who set up the license, speak to them. PPC was the prefered option back in 1999 time however has proven that moving to intel platform need not be something to worry about.

Regardless, I can't see x86 favours for a long time yet

Moving this thread to "too hot to handle"

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Ludde

Yes please. However until the court case is resolved we're stuck with the current hardware solutions.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Ludde

It may surprise you (and others) but I would really like to port AmigaOS 4.1 to x86. However, that would be a major undertaking. It would take a while, and right now, that is pretty much out of question.

And that is without considering the lawsuit.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Ludde

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Is there any chance that Amiga OS 4 will get ported to the Intel/AMD Nvidia/ATI hardware platform in the near future?


leave Nvidia out of your list. There's a lot of it out there, but they don't even have the courtesy to say no or any response whatsoever when you ask for documentation to allow us to create drivers for their stuff. They also do not have the courtesy to even say no or any other response whatsoever when asking about availability of some of their products. Their complete lack of response to us in any way is a very loud NO, we cannot use their stuff on AmigaOS. (And don't say "Amiga" when asking, I didn't, and they still completely ignored us) Unless you're a giant company like Asus or Gigabyte, they don't give a rat's ass. Guess how little they care about the current size Amiga market.

Though Intel and AMD/ATI are possibilities, should the powers tha tbe choose to go x86.

Now, I would like to see AmigaOS go x86 at this point. PA Semi is gone, there doesn't seem to be "high-end" direction for powerPC at Freescale anymore, and I feel weird getting excited about ideas I'd imagine up for the MPC8536 or AMCC chips. I don't want to buy another desktop, and they don't want to port to iBook or Powerbook to get laptops. And I'd love to dual-boot, not dual-lug. Unless/until my XE dies, I don't expect to buy any more Amiga hardware, and I'll be really unhappy to downgrade from G4 ATX to Sam's specs. I think the Sam guys are amazing to do what they've done so far, I just want a lot more performance and expandability, they just offer less than what I have now. Hopefully they'll come out with a higher-end board someday. But going x86 would give we the users a lot more than waiting and hoping that somebody is crazy enough to develop and sell PowerPC hardware we wish for. And it's only getting less possible for such crazies to even do that, with the higher-end chips going away.

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I can not see any reason why it should run on an obsolete hardware platform like the Amiga One.


I have an AmigaOne, I'd be pretty pissed if it stopped running on it. Personally, I think it's a heck of a lot better than the Sam specs in terms of expandability and performance. It's in no way perfect of course, but the only other thing in its class for us Amiga users is the Peg2, which is also unbuyable today.

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@Ludde

Quote:

Ludde wrote:
Is there any chance that Amiga OS 4 will get ported to the Intel/AMD Nvidia/ATI hardware platform in the near future?.


Oh my god, not this old trash yet again.

No. No and No.

I also hope it never will.

If I wanted to use a PC I would buy one and use it, not continually spam Amiga websites with the same old rubbish about wanting to turn an Amiga into a PC every day.

Go away, use Windows on your x86 PC and never come back here.

Do not expect me to recompile any of the software I write to x86 because it will never happen ever.


Bill.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@BillE

This is an old thread. Check the dates.

billt just brought it back, so complain to him, not the original poster.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@billt

But even if we went x86 there would still be the same complaining whne people buy a built pc from the shop. And none of the components are supported. Going x86 doesn't mean that every hw is supported. Writing drivers will still take the time it does. And nvidia will as always not be supported. But ofcourse it's cheap and easy to get hold of.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Antique
Personall I don't care about platform at all.

I care about choice, availability and price and all would be better if there was an x86 port

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Thread

Unlocked continue discussion..

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@Ludde

I'd say there's a greater chance of Os4 > appearing on ARM netbooks than desktop x86

I've bought 3 Xandros EeePc's for my daughters. Melissa installed ubuntu Netbook Remix on hers last week and discovers a "sticky cursor" issue when scrolling over icons.

Are they for real... it's a frikkin cursor for pities sake. Should work smoothly no matter what.

Other than that UNR really roxx0r. Now Os 4 could dominate that market if there's a flash plugin.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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Have a look at this AmigaWorld thread for the latest semi-official word from Hyperion about why no x86 for OS4 (post #35 from Hyperionmp).

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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Hi ChrisH,

Well, IT'S ABOUT TIME that there is some substantial concrete comment from Hyperion Entertainment.....


And I like every word I read!!!!!!!!!

I fully support all their future plans (and I don't even know what they are).

Me supporting NatAmi as much as I do doesn't change any of that, as I still see an AOS3.95 from Hyperion for it being a possibility.

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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@ChrisH

I'm pretty sure I commented on that thread immediately after MagicSN's comment.

It's gorn ?

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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As i did state before there will not be any x86 port period.

Ive copyed this over from amigaworld.net to comfirm this.

Hyperionmp

In addition to that, and the issue has been discussed to death already, a move to x86 would be prohibitively costly.

So far OS 4.x has cost well over 2 M euro to develop. That's 2.75 million USD.

A move to x86 would halt all existing OS 4 development (i.e. complete feature freeze) and subsequently nearly all development time would be spent on dealing with the wide variety of x86 based hardware.

In essence, Amiga OS 4.x development would grind to a complete halt and all this on the fairly far-fetched notion that tens of thousands of existing x86 owners would be willing to pay for a copy of OS 4.1 rather than just downloading a copy somewhere.

No thank you, we have taken a look at the PowerPC roadmap and there is plenty of life in it including 8 core designs under 30 W.

One of the main benefits of Amiga OS 4.1 is the fact that the geared entirely towards the PowerPC architecture as one of the very few operating systems around. Linux runs fine on PPC but it certainly is not optimised for this architecture in any way.


Edited by magic on 2009/6/12 12:41:57
Edited by magic on 2009/6/12 12:42:36
Edited by magic on 2009/6/12 12:43:13
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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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Well YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lets see it's just been a great day for me, My restricted licence arrived in the mail, I got a pay rise today and now this info from the horses mouth...

I might have to celebrate and order ANOTHER SAM!!!!

heh

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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Yes, well, anyway. I'd still like to run all three of the main AmigaOSes on one laptop... so AmigaONE emulator anyone?

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Re: Why not Amiga OS 4 on Intel/AMD + Nvidia/ATI hardware?
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You may want an emulator - but again thats not going to happen any time soon. PPC sam440ep will be the only way to run any amigaos since 4.1- at this present time. Just be thankfull we have new hardware at all.

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LimePC = PowerPC
and LimePC is a small laptop

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