There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

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Dirk-B

Posted on: 2007/1/11 3:20 #1

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As you can read via this link.

That is great news not only for the Classic-users but also for the amigaclubs.

A1G3-SE + OS4.1 u1 iso (x2)

FihmpenRouk

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 11:02 #2

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@Dirk-B

Yep, sounds fine.

So, there's a lot of bugs/problems with different hardware. Lets hope that I have the right hardware to go with AOS4 in my Mediator Amiga 4k ...

Outcast

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 11:18 #3

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@FihmpenRouk

Now might be a good time to list what spec your classic is so Hyperion at can check their driver repotoire !!

Are we nearly there yet ?

Jurassicc

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 12:14 #4

Not too shy to talk

@Outcast OK to get the ball rolling.

Commodore A1200 Motherboard.
Commodore 880K Floppy Drive.
3.1 Roms.
BlizzardPPC with 256MB.
BVision.
Micronik Z2 Rev5.X Busboard.
X-SURF 3cc.
Multiface III.
Subway USB of the X-Surf Clockport.
Using the 44pin onboard IDE controller.

-Edit-

Upgraded it a little

Edited by Jurassicc on 2007/3/29 9:21:43

A1XE, A1200T, X1000, X5020, CDTV, CD32 , A500+ A500
OS4.1b / OS3.2b

Dirk-B

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 12:47 #5

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@Jurassicc

Ok, my'ne is:

A1200 motherboard
BlizzardPPC with 128 mb ram (603e+/240 - 060/50)
BlizzardSCSI with 64 mb ram
BlizzardVision
IDE-splitter (IDE-max '97)

Ps: I am planning to expand it with stuff from Elbox,
like a new tower + pci-board + FastATA controller.

A1G3-SE + OS4.1 u1 iso (x2)

abalaban

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 12:59 #6

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@Dirk-B

Here is mine :

- A1200,
- BlizzardPPC 603e+@176/68040@25 with 128MB fast,
- BVisionPPC,
- IDE HD 80GB
- IDE Philips DVD Reader/CD RW
(both on standard IDE connector via a simple 2"1/2->2*3"1/2 cable)
- PCMCIA Ethernet Card from AmigaKit

Back to a quiet home... At last

Rogue

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 13:17 #7

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@Outcast

Quote:

Outcast wrote:
@FihmpenRouk

Now might be a good time to list what spec your classic is so Hyperion at can check their driver repotoire !!

I'm afraid that driver support will be the major issue, especially on the BlizzardPPC and especially since the memory system changed substantially and there are a LOT of baaad drivers out there. Most DMA drivers do not care about calling PreDMA/PostDMA, so they *are* likely to fail.

We will, shortly before release or during, publish a list of tested hardware. If your configuration matches it, that's great, otherwise there is little chance that we can do anything about that.

Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.

DJBase

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 13:57 #8

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Quote:

Rogue wrote:

We will, shortly before release or during, publish a list of tested hardware. If your configuration matches it, that's great, otherwise there is little chance that we can do anything about that.

Can you tell me already if the Onboard SCSI controller of CSPPC/BPPC can be used with OS4? If I remember correctly there were some issues about this in the past.

MichaelMerkel

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 14:15 #9

Not too shy to talk

@DJBase

Quote:

DJBase wrote:
Can you tell me already if the Onboard SCSI controller of CSPPC/BPPC can be used with OS4? If I remember correctly there were some issues about this in the past.

check the link in the first answer. iirc rogue mentioned, that the cybppc is working, bppc not yet.

byebye...

Michael Merkel

(Michael.Merkel@gmx.net Home)
Member of Amiga-Freunde Pfalz, OS4 Welt

LiveForIt

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 16:59 #10

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@Dirk-B

I?m happy that classic owners will be able to buy AmigaOS4 at some point, more developers for OS4 the better.

(NutsAboutAmiga)

Basilisk II for AmigaOS4
AmigaInputAnywhere
Excalibur
and other tools and apps.

Amigaz

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 19:43 #11

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Hope it can run one my specs:

*A1200T, BPPC 603e 200mhz, BVisionPPC, PCMCIA network
*A1200T, BPPC 603e+ 240mhz, Mediator, Voodoo 3000, SB128, Realtek 100mbit network, TV card
*A4000 Elbox Tower, CS PPC 604e 233mhz, Mediator, Voodoo 3000, Terratec 512i, Realtek 100mbit network, TV card
(will probably put this CS PPC in one of my A4000D with a G-rex 4000)

MichaelMerkel

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 21:06 #12

Not too shy to talk

@Amigaz

Quote:

Amigaz wrote:
Hope it can run one my specs:
...
(will probably put this CS PPC in one of my A4000D with a G-rex 4000)

i doubt that the g-rex will be supported. afaik there is no public documentation available.

byebye...

Michael Merkel

(Michael.Merkel@gmx.net Home)
Member of Amiga-Freunde Pfalz, OS4 Welt

Rogue

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 23:16 #13

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@DJBase

CSPPC - yes.
BPPC - not yet.

Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.

FihmpenRouk

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 23:37 #14

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@Outcast

I think I've got a rather standard A4k tower Mediator system with:
CSPPC060/604e@233/128 MB RAM
Voodoo 5 5500
Repulse 24 bit sound card
100 Mbit Realtek eth
SCSI: 16 bit 9.1 GB HD, 8 bit 4.3 GB HD, 8 bit CDRW Yamaha 8424

... more or less.

When it comes to working drivers for the Mediator I guess it's very much up to Elbox to look over that part, perhaps?
But I don't know what each company has agreed to or not.

The great news is that AmigaOS 4 is coming to more and more hardware and most importantly to the public (since betatesters have had the opportunity for some time).

I will do my best to put together some hardware here that will work.

Amigaz

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 23:41 #15

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@MichaelMerkel

You sure? :( *whining*

Was hoping to have an A4000 that coould boot MorphOS PowerUP, Amiga OS 3.9 and OS4
But I'll ditch MOS if OS4 comes out :) and go the mediator route

Rogue

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 23:49 #16

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@MichaelMerkel

No G-REX support, no.

Seriously, if you do want to contact me write me a mail. You're more likely to get a reply then.

Amigaz

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/11 23:51 #17

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Quote:

Rogue wrote:
@MichaelMerkel

No G-REX support, no.

Thanks for clearing that up

Raziel

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/13 17:58 #18

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@Rogue

So, i might be on the lucky side, then?

A4000 64MB Ram (2 MB Chip)
Cyberstorm PPC604e@200MHz
CybervisionPPC
Using SCSI from the Cyberstorm

A little question (only if you've got the time)
What horse should i bet on, if i want to change to DMA-able
IDE/ATA (SCSI is getting too noisy and too slow) in the near
future?

Thanks a lot for the update, very much appreciated

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Entire ecosystems are collapsing.
We are in the beginning of a mass extinction.
And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.
How dare you!
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joerg

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/14 0:33 #19

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@Raziel

Quote:

Raziel wrote:
@Rogue

So, i might be on the lucky side, then?

A4000 64MB Ram (2 MB Chip)
Cyberstorm PPC604e@200MHz
CybervisionPPC
Using SCSI from the Cyberstorm

Although you could use AmigaOS4 with just 64 MB RAM it's not much fun and you should get more. On AmigaOS4 you need more RAM than on AmigaOS 3.x: The kickstart is in the RAM instead of a ROM (and it's much larger than the 512 KB of AmigaOS 3.x), the MMU table need some RAM, the translation buffers for running m68k software with the JIT, PPC native executables are larger than m68k ones, etc.

Quote:

A little question (only if you've got the time)
What horse should i bet on, if i want to change to DMA-able
IDE/ATA (SCSI is getting too noisy and too slow) in the near
future?

AFAIK there is no DMA IDE controller for classic Amigas at all.

Raziel

Re: There is hope for OS4 on the Classic.

Posted on: 2007/1/14 8:07 #20

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@joerg

Thanks for the info...will get me some more RAM then

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