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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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I am going to test it with my SAM440ep which has two material ethernet ports
the printer has one and the router one too


The router only has one?

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i understand that they can't be used at the same time and i am not sure how they coud be used in this printing context.


Connect one to the router, connect the printer to a different port on the router. If the router really does only have one port, then...

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I guess i could just plainly connect the printer to one of SAM4's port. Do i need a crossover connecting cable to do that?


That should work. You probably don't need a crossover, most ports are auto-sensing these days, but you will need to set the IP address static. If you have more than one port on the router, or a small Ethernet hub/switch you can connect them both to, that will be easier.

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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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The router only has one?

I did not pot them all
I have one c(LAN1) connected tot the ,printer, one to the t(elephone company socket [TV1] and an open one [TV2]
S i guess i can jest use the open one for my SAM

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I have connected my SAM440 to the TV2 port.
I have made an unsuccesful print trial about which i will report later.
I would however first be able to use the internet again ( i am using my wife's PC now)
Shownetstatus seems to tell me i am in a LAN with localhost adress 0.0.0.0 (on interface LAN)
and tells me too that the standard gateway is not configured
I have done some trials with Internet preferences, but did not succeed in connecting to the internet

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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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That sounds like the TV2 port isn't a LAN port, but for something else.
0.0.0.0 means it's not picking up DHCP.

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I have done some research on my router, It is a SAGEM f96c installed by SCARLET (Belgacom also uses this router )

Opening its webpages i did find
Home network
Home Gateway     
IP address    Subnet mask
192.168.1.1    255.255.255.0
DHCP server     
Subnet          Net mask        IP pool start    IP pool end    Gateway        broadcast        Primary DNS    Secondary DNS    Lease time 
(hours)
192.168.1.0    255.255.255.0    192.168.1.2    192.168.1.63    192.168.1.1    192.168.1.255    192.168.1.1    0.0.0.0            24



It looks like 0.0.0.0 could be used ?

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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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No, that only means that the second address (0.0.0.0) is not configured and used.

It sounds like you have only one LAN port on your router, TV2 is a second Telephone line.

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Connected the printer to the 2d SAM440 port
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That should work. You probably don't need a crossover, most ports are auto-sensing these days, but you will need to set the IP address static.


I suppose that is done with setting the lpr.device environmenta variable correctly. How?
I have
4.Amiga OS 4:C> getenv lpr.device
HOST 192.168.1.3 RAW PORT=9100
4.Amiga OS 4:C>




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Re: Printing to Network Printer?
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Looks fine to me

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Yeah, you need to do that, but that isn't what I meant.

In Internet prefs, you need to disable DHCP and put something like this in for the IP address:
IP: 192.168.1.100
Subnet: 255.255.255.0

Ignore the other fields.

Then try "ping 192.168.1.3", if you get a response the network is working and you can see the printer. Then try printing!

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@JosDuchIt:

You should probably get an Ethernet switch and connect that to your only LAN port on the router, and then connect your printer to one of the switch's output ports and your computer to another one. That will make things a bit easier.

I doubt it is possible to use both of the Ethernet ports in the Sam simultaneously with OS4/RoadShow.

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I will buy it, but right now :
@all

I have in "hosts" the line
192.168.1.3 Printer
I added this to the Netinterfaces:
# DEVS:NetInterfaces/Printer
# File generated by Internet 53.2 (27.9.2009)
# On zondag, 10-nov-13 at 10:26:13
device=ppc440ep_eth.device
hardwaretype=Ethernet
address=192.168.1.100
netmask=255.255.255.0
mtu=0

and got the errror message
zo nov 10 10:26:21 2013 [fout]: Configuratie van interface "Printer" met station adres = 00:50:C2:80:D1:8C mislukte (failed) (5,10193, Slecht (bad) adres, Onbekende (unknown) SANA-II wire fout 10193)

and thanks for your patience


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Try the other port?

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As I wrote, I don't think the two ports in the Sam440 can be used at the same time at all. But even if they can, they should be on separate networks, i·e. using the Sam as a router between the two networks. Then you could (in theory) have one port communicating with the gateway over the network 192.168.1.x, and another with the printer on 192.168.2.x - but even if it is possible, it's overly complicated.

Much easier to have the computer and the printer as separate hosts on the same network (e.g. with IP 192.168.1.2 and 192.168.1.3), using the same gateway/router (192.168.1.1).

Best regards,

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i did more tests using ports on the router and on the SAM with no real succes

@nbache
I am busy studying Roadshow, Internet preferences in more detail.

I am doing this creating a Gui4Cli interface, allowing me to have direct access to all network commands and helpfiles involved, and using all their debugging possibilities 'e.g I did put DEBUG=YES in the Printer interface description.)
The first objective being to set up and start things needed for printer usage in the correct order.
Here i would like to find some ref explaining what is the relation between the different items Internet preferences confront you with
-interfaces - between what ? a device driver it seems and ?
I do see as standard on my new SAM460ex install a LAN_X500 interface
but you can acces other drivers directly from here - if you do use the printer preference , no line is added here though
- hosts, You need to know the ip adresses eg from your printer. Why can't i find tem in the outers website?
- servers - ok seem to understand that
- services - what are these ?
- routes - between ? when do you need to add one?


As to debugging


I would have expected that NetLogViewer would generate output but i did not see it yet.
Should it react when using the browser, the mailer, the printer ?

Is there an other program i should use?

not even after using
NetShutDown
and
AddNetInterface DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info) QUIET


Edited by JosDuchIt on 2013/11/11 10:41:21
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I have no idea what you're doing here. ALL you need is:
1. Move anything in DEVS:NetInterfaces into SYS:Storage/NetInterfaces
2. Start up Internet Prefs, create a NEW interface with the IP address details I gave you earlier, the correct device driver and unit 0.
3. That's it!

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@JosDuchIt:

An "interface" or "network interface" (or formally an NIC, Network Interface Controller) is - a bit simplified - the hardware behind one Ethernet port and the definitions and driver handling it through the TCP/IP stack towards the OS.

One interface will give you access from your computer to one network (LAN, subnet, or sometimes the actual Internet) with one IP address.

In AmigaOS, one interface is represented by one file within the Devs/NetInterfaces directory, and, if you use the GUI in the Internet prefs, one entry in the list on the Interfaces page.

There's a lot of information to be found in the SYS:Documentation/RoadShow drawer. Might have been better organised, but at least it's available.

Best regards,

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@nbache @chris
Thanks for all explanations
I think the problem is my printer is not a PS printer. Which i concluded from a hasty google search.
I don't think the generic driver will do what i want.

The Gui4Cli interface i did write, at least permits easy access to all Roadshow commands and their help files, so it is not really printer specific, and anybody could expand it at will.





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Humm, the 7065DN is a GDI printer (Graphics Device Interface). At work, these printers can be used only from a computer the printer is physically connected to. It cannot be used by a computer over the network. At work, we take care to never use a GDI printer.
So it might be that such printers are not useable at all from an AmigaOS machine.


Edited by Elwood on 2013/11/17 9:54:11
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My wife currently uses the printer with her PC laptop with a wifi connection.
I guess you don't use PC's at ACube

Question: do cheap (new) PS ethernet printers exist that can be used with the SAM's?

Could you also comment in this thread "Coonecting two SAMs"
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=2044

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> do cheap (new) PS ethernet printers exist that can be used with the SAM's?

I can't answer a precise question like that as I can't test all printers. What is 100% sure is that some OS4 users use network printers and Enrico used one (an HP) from a 440ep at the time. Now his printer is dead
And the print driver should work the same on all platforms. The print.driver was not updated since ages.

Maybe some Sam user reading this can try and report.

BTW, everyone use PCs

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