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Hi, guys. Are there any software on the Amiga that can put 2 different videos and make one video where they are put on each side?

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Hi, maybe this is what you need? videoclipper

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You can edit videos in blender

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Yeap, you can do it with videoclipper but also with ffmpeg. Have a look at https://intuitionbase.com/software/audio-video for similar applications.

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Are there any software on the Amiga that can put 2 different videos and make one video where they are put on each side?

Easiest way to do it with with ffmpeg using ffmpegGUI.

Using ffmpegGUI
1. Make sure your videos are the same resolution.
2. Set Input 0 to the video you want on the left side.
3. Set Input 1 to the video you want on the right side.
4. Set the Output format extension to the desired container format.
5. Set the video codec to the desired codec. You can use default if they are already the same codec.
6. Set the video size setting to the size you want the final video to be.
7. Enter -filter_complex hstack in the Additional Options Output field.
8. In the Audio Tab. Click Disable Audio, if you don't want audio.
9. Click the Start button.

Assuming all goes well, you will end up with the videos combined into one file side by side. Use vstack if you want to stack them vertically.

If you don't disable the audio the input 0 audio will be used. If you want to use the audio from input 1, then go to the Map Streams tab and set the audio stream of input file 1 to Stream 0.
For example. If the audio stream of Input 1 video file is stream 1, then select Stream 0 and set In File # to 1 and Stream # to 1.

If your videos are different lengths and you want to stop at the shortest use the following: -filter_complex hstack=shortest=1
If you have audio enabled make sure you also select Shortest in the Clip Settings area.


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You can edit videos in blender


How well does that work on AmigaOS?

Threads like this one remind me that I wanted to write my own video editing software. Instead, I ended up being the graphics driver developer...

It would still be nice to write my own video editor. But, it's getting harder to find a gap in the market. There are already some very good editors available, both paid and free...

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Threads like this one remind me that I wanted to write my own video editing software. Instead, I ended up being the graphics driver developer...

...and we are sure glad as a Kiwi to have you.

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Are there any tutorials on how to do that in Blender?

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Yeap. Andy created one some time ago




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Thanks for the link.

It looks extremely tedious to use Blender for video editing, but it is good that there is an option that works.

It would be great if there was something like a modern version of MovieShop (68k software) that was bundled with V-Lab Motion and Draco Motion hardware back in the days.

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How well does that work on AmigaOS?

Threads like this one remind me that I wanted to write my own video editing software. Instead, I ended up being the graphics driver developer...

It would still be nice to write my own video editor. But, it's getting harder to find a gap in the market. There are already some very good editors available, both paid and free...


Just would there be enough computing power to encode longer HD and FullHD videos?

Here a question for you, since we have a driver that can decode video in players with the help of the GPU, would it be possible to reverse this process and encode video using the power of the graphics card, as is done in PC video editing programs?

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Video editor would be very welcome addition :) It is one missing piece of software. Video layers, alpha channel, audio track, some very basic transitions, fade to black, fade to white. Video effects probably from open source world...

Can be lot of or too much work.

Other positive is ongoing development of Qt 6.

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I second the recommendation of FFMpegGUI and FFMpeg. I started playing around with both of them around 2012, now I use FFMpeg for my job (unfortunately, not on an Amiga, it would be too slow).

I have played around a little bit with Kevin's VideoClipper, and it seems like a useful package. Sadly, I have never managed to get Blender to run on my X5000.

Also, if they're Mpegs, you can actually stick them together with the AmigaDOS join command, although that's not something I would recommend. :)

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Thanks for the link.

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Here a question for you, since we have a driver that can decode video in players with the help of the GPU, would it be possible to reverse this process and encode video using the power of the graphics card, as is done in PC video editing programs?


Theoretically, yes. The GPUs also have a video encoder. However, there is some work to be done before it's accessible. This includes adding the encoder code to the VA drivers, and possibly updating the avcodec libraries (I'd love to have the latest version).

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Video editor would be very welcome addition :) It is one missing piece of software. Video layers, alpha channel, audio track, some very basic transitions, fade to black, fade to white. Video effects probably from open source world...

Can be lot of or too much work.

It is a lot of work, and it would have to be multi-platform to be viable (need income to keep the lights on). One big difficulty is having to answer this question: "why would anyone use my video editor instead of CapCut, Final Cut Pro, Adobe Premiere, DaVinci Resolve, iMovie, Filmora, movavi, PowerDirector, etc.?"

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Sadly, I have never managed to get Blender to run on my X5000.

Our Blender port uses MiniGL. Do you have NovaBridge installed?

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I use OpenShot (free) multiplatform

here the direct download
https://www.openshot.org/it/

here instead on git
https://github.com/OpenShot


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It is allmost impossible to sell wide. Full blown videoedit is saturated, I think.

There may be some room for simple, few trick pony, where UI is excellent, easy and clear. Maybe tablet/phone side IOS and android? Youngsters make quite lot with phones alone. It is quite far away from OS4 desktop.

Anyway just video tracks, audio tracks, lipsync and fade to black/white may be enought for many people.

Still, probability to fail to keep lights on is absolutely very high, allmost certain. As code doesnt come for free and this is not part- or freetime project, it is not possible to do little by little.

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Indeed, that is the question, "who would buy".

I think that is universal for all of the Amiga Next Gen platform as well.

I mean, we can easily do most all faster, easier, better... on most Linux, Mac OS, Windows platforms. Heck even iPad or iPhone can do tons.

BUT... as a hobbiest, I do enjoy using my non (Linux, Mac OS, other) (in other words Amiga Next Gen) computers for real work, and I would welcome a basic video editor as a YouTuber.

Something along the lines of an iMovie quality, ease of use, enjoys the zippy Amiga OS platform for every day desktop OS environment, for Amiga OS would be cool and I would buy it.

I continue to find "real world every day use" for my X5000 and add a web browser that is updated (to some degree) and a video editor that is easy to use, I would use my X5K daily instead of seldom.

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I would also appreciate to be able to use a decent video editing software under AmigaOs4.1 ala iMovie.

But let's be realistic, what do we do with the edited videos if we can't put them online on YouTube with our AmigaOs4.1 browsers as YouTubers?

Here we would again be dependent on the help of other operating systems. Especially since it is inconvenient to have to move files back and forth in order to be able to use them in the end.

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That is why I had two things needed in my message... updated Web Browser and Video Editor. haha

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