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Re: What the fastest possible x64 emulation way of OS4 today ?
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white wrote:Ok, now E-Uae works with CoffinOS R62
in SDL version with g3 cpu.
I did some changes in the startup-sequence it all switched to sfs/02 on hard disk.
As soon as I have time I will improve it for my needs by removing some superfluous things.

I find E-UAE an important program to use with 4.1.
The resolution is 800x600x16bit uaegfx.


Great configuration you have there, it seems to run very smoothly. What I noticed is that your background image does not support your resolution, you could change it in System/Prefs/WbPattern and then change the settings to Centered....then your background image will be adjusted by Workbench to your resolution.

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I've been a bit lazy lately in making videos

I saw that qemu version 8.0.2 is out
I was wondering if it contains the new patches posted by ZBalaton?


Since the version jump was not very large, I think it was only improved minor things.

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I removed the background
As soon as I have time I remove other superfluous things.

And convenient because I moved the whole system CoffinOS R62
with all demo games all full partition.

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I'd like to know because otherwise I have to recompile the FPU support from scratch.
Not so much for its compilation because it takes 10 seconds.

But it takes at least an hour to replace the files

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I'd like to know because otherwise I have to recompile the FPU support from scratch.
Not so much for its compilation because it takes 10 seconds.

But it takes at least an hour to replace the files


Ask BALATON Zoltan

Otherwise I have no information about it, as I said there were only minor changes. Some patches were questioned. All changes will probably take place in Qemu 8.1.

- shutdown via shutdown Linux/AmigaOs4.1

- CPU 7457 as default setting

- ac97 improvements

- code cleanup, speed improvement

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white wrote:@Maijestro

I removed the background
As soon as I have time I remove other superfluous things.


It was related to the background image of AmigaOs4.1 not under CoffinOs.

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Ah I understand what you mean by the background

I only test with this AmigaOS,

In reality I have practically everything configured and it works well.
The ones you see are tests to see where I can push the emulation.

The videos I post are made to show the errors that can occur.

For example, for a long time it was believed that with WinUAE selecting in Z3 RAM "automemory"

Was the best choice for 4.1 while actually if you select "Real Memory"

Emulation speed doubles which I always selected. In the end even "Toni" understood that with 4.1 it is better to choose "Real Memory" in Z3 RAM.

Now I don't know how ram is managed in "qemu Pegasos2"
but i think i have the same problem.

I think ZBalaton should investigate this.
And figure out if there's a correlation to that in memory management.

Although always available ZBalaton sometimes does not understand in good faith I mean. And he is a really helpful person, mine is not a criticism of him.

But I've been emulating 4.1 for many years
The suggestions I try to give him sometimes fall on deaf ears.

For example, the problem of the SFS filesystem was from the 3.0 version of qemu that I had reported the problem.

Now I'm talking about the memory to be selected in "Real" mode
I have no idea how it is handled by qemu but this needs to be fixed in the code of "qemu Pegasos2"

So you should see what part of WinUAE code manages this option and import it into qemu Pegasos2.
Because it's essential.

This would double the emulation speed.

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I have no idea how to check it and understand if the "RAM" management is correct.
Or it could be managed in "REAL" Mode

for example with this:

qemu-system-ppc -cpu g3 -M pegasos2 -bios /home/white/Scaricati/pegasos2.rom -m 1024 -object memory-backend-file,id=mem,size=1024M,mem-path=/dev/shm /qemu-ram,share=on -serial stdio -device sm501 -drive if=none,id=hd,file=/home/white/Downloads/32gb.raw,format=raw -device ide-hd,drive=hd, bus=ide.0 -device rtl8139,netdev=vlan0 -netdev user,id=vlan0 -vga none -drive if=none,id=hd1,file=/home/white/Downloads/coffin.raw,format=raw -device ide-hd,drive=hd1,bus=ide.0

switch to console mode in qemu :

code:
mtree info
((( initialization boot )))

QEMU 8.0.0 monitor - type 'help' for more information
(qemu) info mtree
address-space: mv64361-pcibridge
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: I/O
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): io

address-space: via-ac97
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt8231-isa
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: mv64361-pcibridge
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: via-ide
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: sm501
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: cpu-memory-0
address-space: memory
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
0000000000000000-000000003fffffff (prio 0, ram): pegasos2.ram
0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem0-win @pci1-mem 0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff
00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem0-win @pci0-mem 00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff
00000000f1000000-00000000f100ffff (prio 0, i/o): mv64361
00000000f8000000-00000000f8ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-io-win @pci0-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000f9000000-00000000f9ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem1-win @pci0-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fd000000-00000000fdffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem1-win @pci1-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fe000000-00000000feffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-io-win @pci1-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem3-win @pci1-mem 00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff
00000000fff00000-00000000fff7ffff (prio 0, rom): pegasos2.rom

address-space: via-mc97
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: rtl8139
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: vt82c686b-usb-uhci
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt82c686b-usb-uhci
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt8231-pm
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

memory-region: system
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
0000000000000000-000000003fffffff (prio 0, ram): pegasos2.ram
0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem0-win @pci1-mem 0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff
00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem0-win @pci0-mem 00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff
00000000f1000000-00000000f100ffff (prio 0, i/o): mv64361
00000000f8000000-00000000f8ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-io-win @pci0-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000f9000000-00000000f9ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem1-win @pci0-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fd000000-00000000fdffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem1-win @pci1-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fe000000-00000000feffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-io-win @pci1-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem3-win @pci1-mem 00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff
00000000fff00000-00000000fff7ffff (prio 0, rom): pegasos2.rom

memory-region: pci1-mem
0000000000000000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): pci1-mem

memory-region: pci0-mem
0000000000000000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): pci0-mem

memory-region: pci0-io
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): pci0-io

memory-region: pci1-io
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): pci1-io
0000000000000000-0000000000000007 (prio 0, i/o): dma-chan
0000000000000008-000000000000000f (prio 0, i/o): dma-cont
0000000000000020-0000000000000021 (prio 0, i/o): pic
0000000000000040-0000000000000043 (prio 0, i/o): pit
0000000000000060-0000000000000060 (prio 0, i/o): i8042-data
0000000000000064-0000000000000064 (prio 0, i/o): i8042-cmd
0000000000000070-0000000000000071 (prio 0, i/o): rtc
0000000000000070-0000000000000070 (prio 0, i/o): rtc-index
0000000000000081-0000000000000083 (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
0000000000000087-0000000000000087 (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
0000000000000089-000000000000008b (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
000000000000008f-000000000000008f (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
00000000000000a0-00000000000000a1 (prio 0, i/o): pic
00000000000000b2-00000000000000b3 (prio 0, i/o): apm-io
00000000000000c0-00000000000000cf (prio 0, i/o): dma-chan
00000000000000d0-00000000000000df (prio 0, i/o): dma-cont
00000000000002f8-00000000000002ff (prio 0, i/o): serial
0000000000000378-000000000000037f (prio 0, i/o): parallel
00000000000003f1-00000000000003f5 (prio 0, i/o): fdc
00000000000003f7-00000000000003f7 (prio 0, i/o): fdc
00000000000004d0-00000000000004d0 (prio 0, i/o): elcr
00000000000004d1-00000000000004d1 (prio 0, i/o): elcr
0000000000000f00-0000000000000f7f (prio 0, i/o): via-pm
0000000000000f00-0000000000000f03 (prio 0, i/o): acpi-evt
0000000000000f04-0000000000000f05 (prio 0, i/o): acpi-cnt
0000000000000f08-0000000000000f0b (prio 0, i/o): acpi-tmr
0000000000001000-0000000000001007 (prio 1, i/o): via-ide0-data
000000000000100c-000000000000100f (prio 1, i/o): via-ide0-cmd
0000000000001010-0000000000001017 (prio 1, i/o): via-ide1-data
000000000000101c-000000000000101f (prio 1, i/o): via-ide1-cmd
0000000000001020-000000000000102f (prio 1, i/o): via-bmdma-container
0000000000001020-0000000000001023 (prio 0, i/o): via-bmdma
0000000000001024-0000000000001027 (prio 0, i/o): bmdma
0000000000001028-000000000000102b (prio 0, i/o): via-bmdma
000000000000102c-000000000000102f (prio 0, i/o): bmdma
0000000000001040-000000000000105f (prio 1, i/o): uhci
0000000000001060-000000000000107f (prio 1, i/o): uhci

(qemu) info mtree

((( 4.1 system in operation )))

address-space: mv64361-pcibridge
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: I/O
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): io

address-space: via-ac97
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt8231-isa
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: mv64361-pcibridge
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: via-ide
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: sm501
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: cpu-memory-0
address-space: memory
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
0000000000000000-000000003fffffff (prio 0, ram): pegasos2.ram
0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem0-win @pci1-mem 0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff
00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem0-win @pci0-mem 00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff
00000000f1000000-00000000f100ffff (prio 0, i/o): mv64361
00000000f8000000-00000000f8ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-io-win @pci0-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000f9000000-00000000f9ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem1-win @pci0-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fd000000-00000000fdffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem1-win @pci1-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fe000000-00000000feffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-io-win @pci1-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem3-win @pci1-mem 00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff
00000000fff00000-00000000fff7ffff (prio 0, rom): pegasos2.rom

address-space: via-mc97
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

address-space: rtl8139
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt82c686b-usb-uhci
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt82c686b-usb-uhci
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias bus master @system 0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff

address-space: vt8231-pm
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): bus master container

memory-region: system
0000000000000000-ffffffffffffffff (prio 0, i/o): system
0000000000000000-000000003fffffff (prio 0, ram): pegasos2.ram
0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem0-win @pci1-mem 0000000080000000-00000000bfffffff
00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem0-win @pci0-mem 00000000c0000000-00000000dfffffff
00000000f1000000-00000000f100ffff (prio 0, i/o): mv64361
00000000f8000000-00000000f8ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-io-win @pci0-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000f9000000-00000000f9ffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci0-mem1-win @pci0-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fd000000-00000000fdffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem1-win @pci1-mem 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000fe000000-00000000feffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-io-win @pci1-io 0000000000000000-0000000000ffffff
00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): alias pci1-mem3-win @pci1-mem 00000000ff800000-00000000ffffffff
00000000fff00000-00000000fff7ffff (prio 0, rom): pegasos2.rom

memory-region: pci1-mem
0000000000000000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): pci1-mem
0000000080000000-0000000083ffffff (prio 1, ram): sm501.local
0000000084000000-00000000841fffff (prio 1, i/o): sm501.mmio
0000000084000000-000000008400006b (prio 0, i/o): sm501-system-config
0000000084010040-0000000084010053 (prio 0, i/o): sm501-i2c
0000000084080000-0000000084080fff (prio 0, i/o): sm501-disp-ctrl
0000000084100000-0000000084100053 (prio 0, i/o): sm501-2d-engine

memory-region: pci0-mem
0000000000000000-00000000ffffffff (prio 0, i/o): pci0-mem

memory-region: pci0-io
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): pci0-io

memory-region: pci1-io
0000000000000000-000000000000ffff (prio 0, i/o): pci1-io
0000000000000000-0000000000000007 (prio 0, i/o): dma-chan
0000000000000008-000000000000000f (prio 0, i/o): dma-cont
0000000000000020-0000000000000021 (prio 0, i/o): pic
0000000000000040-0000000000000043 (prio 0, i/o): pit
0000000000000060-0000000000000060 (prio 0, i/o): i8042-data
0000000000000064-0000000000000064 (prio 0, i/o): i8042-cmd
0000000000000070-0000000000000071 (prio 0, i/o): rtc
0000000000000070-0000000000000070 (prio 0, i/o): rtc-index
0000000000000081-0000000000000083 (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
0000000000000087-0000000000000087 (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
0000000000000089-000000000000008b (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
000000000000008f-000000000000008f (prio 0, i/o): dma-page
00000000000000a0-00000000000000a1 (prio 0, i/o): pic
00000000000000b2-00000000000000b3 (prio 0, i/o): apm-io
00000000000000c0-00000000000000cf (prio 0, i/o): dma-chan
00000000000000d0-00000000000000df (prio 0, i/o): dma-cont
00000000000002f8-00000000000002ff (prio 0, i/o): serial
0000000000000378-000000000000037f (prio 0, i/o): parallel
00000000000003f1-00000000000003f5 (prio 0, i/o): fdc
00000000000003f7-00000000000003f7 (prio 0, i/o): fdc
00000000000004d0-00000000000004d0 (prio 0, i/o): elcr
00000000000004d1-00000000000004d1 (prio 0, i/o): elcr
0000000000000f00-0000000000000f7f (prio 0, i/o): via-pm
0000000000000f00-0000000000000f03 (prio 0, i/o): acpi-evt
0000000000000f04-0000000000000f05 (prio 0, i/o): acpi-cnt
0000000000000f08-0000000000000f0b (prio 0, i/o): acpi-tmr
0000000000001000-0000000000001007 (prio 1, i/o): via-ide0-data
000000000000100c-000000000000100f (prio 1, i/o): via-ide0-cmd
0000000000001010-0000000000001017 (prio 1, i/o): via-ide1-data
000000000000101c-000000000000101f (prio 1, i/o): via-ide1-cmd
0000000000001020-000000000000102f (prio 1, i/o): via-bmdma-container
0000000000001020-0000000000001023 (prio 0, i/o): via-bmdma
0000000000001024-0000000000001027 (prio 0, i/o): bmdma
0000000000001028-000000000000102b (prio 0, i/o): via-bmdma
000000000000102c-000000000000102f (prio 0, i/o): bmdma
0000000000001030-0000000000001033 (prio 1, i/o): via-ac97.fm
0000000000001034-0000000000001037 (prio 1, i/o): via-ac97.midi
0000000000001040-000000000000105f (prio 1, i/o): uhci
0000000000001060-000000000000107f (prio 1, i/o): uhci
0000000000001100-00000000000011ff (prio 1, i/o): rtl8139
0000000000001200-00000000000012ff (prio 1, i/o): via-ac97.sgd


but in this case I have no idea if the "ram" is managed in "Real" mode as it happens in WinUAE"


Edited by white on 2023/6/3 13:37:21
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Have you ever asked BALATON Zoltan and explained it to him ?

The problem with Qemu used to be that not many people used it with AmigaOs 4.1 and reported bugs, so it remained a poor emulation until Qemu 7.2, when like you I could reproduce most of the problems with Qemu 3.

Many things have been improved since then, SFS, network, sound, CPU/FPU the main problem unfortunately remains and that is the sm501 with its low resolutions and 16 bit output.

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For example, the problem of the SFS filesystem was from the 3.0 version of qemu that I had reported the problem.
The problem with SFS (only the versions illegally sold by Hyperion as part of AmigaOS 4.1 FE and beyond) in qemu were simply that qemu emulated complete nonsense, for example a 600 MHz 7400 CPU with 0 bytes L2 cache, which neither exists nor was anything even close to any of the CPUs supported by AmigaOS 4.x (in case of the G4 CPUs only V'ger and Apollo versions are supported) and therefore failed the copy protection tests in illegal SFS distributions.

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The problem with SFS (only the versions illegally sold by Hyperion as part of AmigaOS 4.1 FE and beyond) in qemu were simply that qemu emulated complete nonsense, for example a 600 MHz 7400 CPU with 0 bytes L2 cache, which neither exists nor was anything even close to any of the CPUs supported by AmigaOS 4.x (in case of the G4 CPUs only V'ger and Apollo versions are supported) and therefore failed the copy protection tests in illegal SFS distributions.


It was luck that AmigaOs4.1 could handle this G4 CPU 7400 at all, leading of course to a very unstable and incompatible system.

The funny thing is that @smarkusg found out because they first started to work intensively with the Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 emulation.

As I also tested the sm501 part, which then added sound and network support. About 1 year ago this emulation was totally unusable.

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thanks for the explanation,

@Maijestro

I was looking now in the repositories
https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/tree/master/hw/ppc

version 8.0.2 should be updated with cpu changes 7457 is 6 days ago

have you tried it?

going back to AmiCygnix it's the only program I haven't been able to get working.
So I have the "silicon" driver not working well or it is "rtl8139"

with WinUAE i use rtl8039 and it works.

I probably think it's the network card that's having problems.

Also because AmiCygnix works by default at 16bit.

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white wrote:@joerg
thanks for the explanation,

@Maijestro

I was looking now in the repositories
https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/tree/master/hw/ppc

version 8.0.2 should be updated with cpu changes 7457 is 6 days ago

have you tried it?


I have now tested Qemu 8.0.2, as I had already suspected relevant changes that mainly affect Qemu Peg2 have not yet been merged. Will probably only changed with Qemu 8.1.

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Quote from BALATON Zoltan:

Quote:
I've read your conversation on amigans.net forum so I answer a few
questions:

> Maijestro:
> @white
?
> Quote:
>
> white wrote:@Maijestro
>
> I'd like to know because otherwise I have to recompile the FPU
> support from scratch.
> Not so much for its compilation because it takes 10 seconds.
>
> But it takes at least an hour to replace the files
>
> Ask BALATON Zoltan

Indeed, it's best to ask me if you have some question because writing it
to random forums is not the best way to get an answer. I may read some
forum threads and answer if I happen to know your email address but may
not find all questions that way. If you prefer a forum there's also one at
https://osdn.net/projects/qmiga/forums/ but it's not yet used.

> Otherwise I have no information about it, as I said there were only minor
> changes. Some patches were questioned. All changes will probably take
> place in Qemu 8.1.

QEMU 8.0.x are stable releases and only contain back ported bug fixes that
may be important for those running a stable version but no new features.
So pegasos2 related changes are usually not included in stable versions
only in next version with new features which will be 8.1 in August (see:
https://wiki.qemu.org/Planning/8.1 ) and only when they are merged until
July 11th. Anything missing that deadline will be in 8.2 due in Decembet.

> - shutdown via shutdown Linux/AmigaOs4.1

This is not merged yet but maybe still can be in next release

> - CPU 7457 as default setting

This will be there as it's merged already

> - code cleanup, speed improvement

There are some pending patches for this but don't expect very big speed
improvement, maybe a few percents are realistically possible.

> White:
? For example, for a long time it was believed that with WinUAE selecting
> in Z3 RAM "automemory"
>
> Was the best choice for 4.1 while actually if you select "Real Memory"
>
> Emulation speed doubles which I always selected. In the end even "Toni"
> understood that with 4.1 it is better to choose "Real Memory" in Z3 RAM.
>
> Now I don't know how ram is managed in "qemu Pegasos2"
> but i think i have the same problem.

What makes you think we have the same problem?

> I think ZBalaton should investigate this.
> And figure out if there's a correlation to that in memory management.

I can only investigate what I know about and what I also understand.

> Although always available ZBalaton sometimes does not understand in good
> faith I mean. And he is a really helpful person, mine is not a criticism
> of him.

Yes I can't fix problems I don't understand so then I need more info on
those to help me understand it. Telling me that some setting works in UAE
or VMWare are not too helpful as I don't know or use UAE or VMWare so I
dan't help with those and also don't know what would that mean for QEMU so
I can only guess which is usually not enough to undrstand the problem.

> But I've been emulating 4.1 for many years
> The suggestions I try to give him sometimes fall on deaf ears.
>
> For example, the problem of the SFS filesystem was from the 3.0 version
> of qemu that I had reported the problem.

This was also a problem which wasn't understood but it was also not
possible to fix, SFS still does not work on sam460ex where you've reported
it and the reason is not a problem in QEMU but in the SFS driver included
in AmigaOS 4.1 which only supports specific processors as was now found
and confirmed. I could not figure this out from your report telling me
that it does not work, it needed more information and experimenting that
was only done by some people now that we had pegasos2 that could use
different CPUs. If this theory is true then SFS also does not work on a
real sam460ex so I wonder if that's really the case but it would need
somebody with a real hardware to confirm that.

> Now I'm talking about the memory to be selected in "Real" mode
> I have no idea how it is handled by qemu but this needs to be fixed in
> the code of "qemu Pegasos2"

And I have no idea what's Real mode in WinUAE and not sure it can be fixed
in QEMU the same way.

> So you should see what part of WinUAE code manages this option and
> import it into qemu Pegasos2. Because it's essential.
>
> This would double the emulation speed.

This may not work like that because UAE emulates a classic Amiga and QEMU
emulates a pegasos2. The pegasos2 does not have Z3 RAM as it also does not
have Zorro bus. The RAM in pegasos2 is just mapped from address 0 and can
go up to 2GB but the firmware can only detect 1GB SIMMs and QEMU only
emulates one SIMM. You can tell it to emulate a 2GB SIMM but the firmware
then does not detect it so we'd either need to split it into two SIMMs or
do something with the firmware to make it work with 2GB SIMMs. (Newer
firmware versions also seem to have this problem maybe because 2GB SIMMs
were not common back when pegasosII was a supported machine).

But back to the Real mode issue. First of all what is that? Does that mean
disabling usage of MMU and just map RAM one to one? I'm not sure
AmigaOS4.1 can do that on pegasos2 but if you can somehow disable use of
virtual memory or MMU that may improve speed a bit but probably less than
two times. I'd still need more info on what you mean to understand the
problem better, without that I can't do much about it.

Regards,
BALATON Zoltan


BALATON Zoltan is very open minded and if you have any questions please contact him directly.

If it's not too much to ask maybe we could create a new category for the forum on Amigans.net for the Qemu Peg2 AmigaOs4.1 stuff?

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Quote:
But back to the Real mode issue. First of all what is that? Does that mean
disabling usage of MMU and just map RAM one to one? I'm not sure
AmigaOS4.1 can do that on pegasos2 but if you can somehow disable use of
virtual memory or MMU that may improve speed a bit but probably less than
two times. I'd still need more info on what you mean to understand the
problem better, without that I can't do much about it.
AmigaOS 4.x can't work with disabled MMU, not even for 1:1 virtual<>physical memory parts like the classic Amiga Chip RAM (MMU is required to disable access to the zero page and get the fake SysBase from reading address 0x4 for emulated m68k software) and Zorro II/III address space (MMU is required to disable data caches).
On NG systems there is no 1:1 virtual<>physical mapping at all.
I don't know what the "real" mode in UAE should be (maybe emulating the CyberStormPPC local RAM?), except that only for memory outside of the Zorro II/III address space CPU caches can be enabled and that may be the reason why "real mode" emulated memory is faster than memory from an emulated Zorro III RAM card.
Because the RAM on Zorro III RAM cards is extremely slow compared to the CyberStormPPC local RAM the Zorro III RAM support I implemented in AmigaOS 4.x is using it as SWAP "partition" (at least by default) instead of a memory expansion as cards like the ZorRAM were used in AmigaOS 3.x/m68k instead.


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@joerg
@Maijestro
@All

Yes, ZBalaton is very helpful and also a kind person.

Amigans is a forum where you can ask for help and exchange opinions on the 4.1 system.

And getting help like it did for "Scumm" thanks "Raziel".

I believe in providing the right information to ZBalaton.
We should test the main AmigaOS applications and create a base in practice a list of applications with the settings that each one has made for their system and share them.

I think this is the best way.

As mentioned, Amigans is an excellent forum, of course you have to ask if it is possible to create a Topic that does not somehow "annoy" the users of the "Real Amiga"

It is fair to understand if it is possible to do this on Amigans.

I currently use -cpu G3 because it is more compatible I get with the benchmark proposed by "Hans" RageMem: MAX MIPS: 8200 with the "Ryzen 5800" without overclocking.

while if I use 7457 I get lower scores.

But this depends on the build of qemu.

The basis is ./configure --target-list=ppc-softmmu

so I was wondering for example who uses the Ryzen 5.xxx for example which compilation does he use?

So the main applications emotion, odyssey, mplayer, yt, etc
what you use SDL Composite is things like this.

Seems like a good start to help out ZBalaton

I hope it's a good idea to do this. ??

Also because then he is the one to make the changes to qemu for Pegasos2

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Ah one important thing I was forgetting,
i saw that in compiling ./configure --target-list=ppc-softmmu
"PAM" is disabled now qemu is complex I wanted to ask if something has to do with SSH to make Amicygnix work

From what I've read it doesn't appear that "PAM" in qemu matters for SSH
Thanks for any response.

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here the bench I don't know if the execution is correct but I think so.
there are about 200 points less because I'm recording with a software.
It can be seen that the g3 turns out to be faster.

https://youtu.be/EYSr8PWYVak

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@white

I am using Windows 10 Home with a Ryzan 5600x. I do not compile QEMU myself, I use the precompiled binaries linked from the QEMU website.

Here are my Peg2 benchmarks with the g3 and g4 cpus, and they are all pretty much the same apart from the Dhrystone Benchmark. They were run one after the other.

g3

CPUBench v1.0


RageMem
:

RAGEMEM v0.37 compiled 11/06/2010

CPU
IBM PowerPC 750 CXe 3.1 599 Mhz
Caches Sizes
L132 KB L2256 KB L3none
Cache Line
32

---> CPU  L1  L2  RAM  VIDEO BUS 
  Ptr_Comp
:          1733296216
        should be
:   (implementation-dependent)
  
Discr:             0
        should be
:   0
  Enum_Comp
:         2
        should be
:   2
  Int_Comp
:          17
        should be
:   17
  Str_Comp
:          DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
        should be
:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
Next_Ptr_Glob
->
  
Ptr_Comp:          1733296216
        should be
:   (implementation-dependent), same as above
  Discr
:             0
        should be
:   0
  Enum_Comp
:         1
        should be
:   1
  Int_Comp
:          18
        should be
:   18
  Str_Comp
:          DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
        should be
:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
Int_1_Loc
:           5
        should be
:   5
Int_2_Loc
:           13
        should be
:   13
Int_3_Loc
:           7
        should be
:   7
Enum_Loc
:            1
        should be
:   1
Str_1_Loc
:           DHRYSTONE PROGRAM1'ST STRING
        should be:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAM, 1'
ST STRING
Str_2_Loc
:           DHRYSTONE PROGRAM2'ND STRING
        should be:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAM, 2'
ND STRING

Duration in seconds
:                        57.6 
Microseconds 
for one run through Dhrystone1.2 
Dhrystones per Second
:                      867775.4 
Dhrystone MIPS 
(DMIPS)                      493 



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65033 -65026 -64356 -64353 -64349 -63678 -63671 -62995 -62991 -62988 -62984 -62303 -62296 -61611 -61606 -61604 -61599 -60909 -60902 -60207 -60202 -60199 -60195 -59495 -59488 -58784 -58779 -58777 -58772 -58063 -58056 -57343 -57338 -57335 -57330 -56613 -56605 -55883 -55878 -55876 -55145 -55137 -54407 -54402 -54399 -53659 -53657 -53652 -52913 -52905 -52157 -52155 -52149 -51403 -51395 -50644 -50639 -50636 -50631 -49876 -49868 -49110 -49104 -49102 -49096 -48334 -48326 -47560 -47555 -47552 -47547 -46777 -46769 -45995 -45990 -45987 -45982 -45205 -45197 -44416 -44411 -44408 -44403 -43619 -43611 -42823 -42818 -42815 -42019 -42011 -41217 -41209 -40406 -40403 -40398 -39598 -39589 -38786 -38780 -38778 -38772 -37966 -37957 -37148 -37143 -37140 -37134 -36322 -36314 -35499 -35493 -35491 -35485 -34667 -34659 -34464 -34464 -34463 -34456 -34456 -34440 -34440 -34440 -34417 -34416 -34386 -34385 -34385 -34385 -34346 -34346 -34300 -34299 -34299 -34299 -34245 -34244 -34182 -34182 -34182 -34181 -34112 -34111 -34034 -34033 -34033 -34032 -33947 -33947 -33854 -33853 -33853 -33852 -33839 -33833 -33830 -33824 -33752 -33751 -33643 -33642 -33642 -33526 -33524 -33401 -33400 -33268 -33268 -33267 -33128 -33127 -33001 -32993 -32981 -32980 -32979 -32978 -32824 -32823 -32661 -32660 -32660 -32659 -32490 -32488 -32311 -32310 -32310 -32308 -32167 -32162 -32159 -32153 -32124 -32122 -31931 -31929 -31929 -31927 -31728 -31726 -31519 -31518 -31517 -31516 -31325 -31317 -31302 -31299 -31078 -31076 -31075 -30845 -30842 -30606 -30604 -30603 -30486 -30481 -30478 -30358 -30357 -30355 -30104 -30101 -29841 -29840 -29838 -29639 -29631 -29572 -29569 -29296 -29294 -29293 -29291 -29010 -29007 -28796 -28790 -28787 -28719 -28717 -28716 -28714 -28419 -28415 -28113 -28111 -28110 -28108 -27944 -27941 -27935 -27798 -27794 -27477 -27475 -27474 -27472 -27147 -27144 -27096 -27087 -26813 -26810 -26809 -26807 -26468 -26465 -26240 -26237 -26231 -26119 -26117 -26115 -25760 -25757 -25397 -25393 -25388 -25379 -25024 -25022 -25020 -24646 -24642 -24533 -24528 -24525 -24519 -24261 -24259 -24257 -24255 -23867 -23863 -23671 -23663 -23468 -23465 -23464 -23461 -23060 -23056 -22814 -22808 -22805 -22799 -22647 -22644 -22643 -22640 -22225 -22221 -21948 -21939 -21799 -21796 -21794 -21791 -21363 -21358 -21086 -21081 -21078 -21072 -20923 -20920 -20918 -20915 -20473 -20468 -20217 -20209 -20020 -20016 -20015 -20012 -19556 -19552 -19353 -19347 -19344 -19338 -19090 -19087 -19085 -18613 -18608 -18481 -18472 -18133 -18128 -17644 -17642 -17639 -17613 -17607 -17604 -17598 -17151 -17146 -16738 -16729 -16651 -16648 -16646 -16643 -16142 -16137 -15868 -15862 -15859 -15630 -15627 -15625 -15621 -15108 -15103 -14990 -14981 -14583 -14580 -14578 -14574 -14117 -14109 -14049 -14043 -13512 -13508 -13506 -13502 -13238 -13235 -13229 -12964 -12959 -12415 -12411 -12409 -12405 -12363 -12354 -11855 -11850 -11487 -11481 -11478 -11472 -11294 -11290 -11288 -10722 -10716 -10604 -10595 -10149 -10145 -10143 -9727 -9721 -9718 -9712 -9565 -9563 -9559 -8980 -8974 -8842 -8833 -8385 -8383 -8379 -7963 -7957 -7954 -7948 -7788 -7781 -7185 -7181 -7179 -7175 -7078 -7069 -6572 -6566 -6198 -6192 -6189 -6183 -5958 -5954 -5952 -5948 -5335 -5328 -5311 -5302 -4710 -4705 -4703 -4699 -4430 -4424 -4421 -4415 -4075 -4068 -3542 -3533 -3439 -3434 -3432 -3428 -2793 -2786 -2661 -2655 -2652 -2646 -2146 -2142 -2139 -2135 -1773 -1764 -1490 -1483 -891 -885 -882 -832 -828 -826 -165 -159 -3 0 6 161 163 168 823 830 879 888 1485 1487 1492 1767 1770 1776 2137 2144 2649 2658 2784 2788 2791 2795 3430 3436 3530 3536 3539 3545 4066 4070 4073 4077 4418 4427 4701 4707 5299 5305 5308 5314 5326 5330 5333 5337 5950 5956 6186 6195 6564 6568 6570 6575 7066 7072 7075 7081 7177 7183 7779 7784 7786 7790 7951 7960 8381 8387 8830 8836 8839 8845 8972 8976 8978 9561 9567 9715 9724 10141 10147 10592 10598 10601 10607 10718 10720 10724 11286 11292 11475 11484 11848 11852 11854 11857 12351 12357 12360 12407 12413 12957 12961 12963 12966 13232 13241 13504 13510 14041 14045 14047 14051 14106 14112 14114 14576 14582 14984 14987 14993 15101 15105 15106 15110 15623 15628 15856 15865 16135 16139 16140 16144 16645 16650 16732 16735 16741 17144 17147 17149 17601 17610 17640 17645 18127 18130 18132 18469 18475 18478 18484 18610 18612 18615 19083 19088 19341 19350 19553 19555 19558 20013 20018 20206 20212 20214 20220 20467 20470 20471 20475 20917 20921 21075 21083 21357 21360 21361 21364 21793 21797 21936 21942 21945 21951 22219 22222 22223 22226 22642 22646 22802 22811 23054 23057 23058 23061 23463 23467 23660 23666 23669 23674 23861 23864 23866 23868 24256 24260 24522 24531 24641 24643 24645 25021 25025 25376 25382 25385 25391 25392 25394 25395 25758 25759 25761 26114 26118 26234 26243 26466 26467 26469 26808 26812 27084 27090 27093 27143 27145 27146 27149 27473 27476 27793 27795 27797 27799 27938 27947 28109 28112 28414 28416 28418 28420 28715 28718 28784 28793 29006 29008 29009 29011 29292 29295 29568 29570 29571 29573 29633 29636 29642 29839 29842 30100 30102 30103 30356 30359 30475 30483 30603 30605 30843 30844 30846 31075 31077 31299 31300 31301 31302 31314 31320 31322 31328 31517 31519 31725 31727 31728 31729 31928 31930 32122 32123 32124 32125 32156 32165 32309 32311 32487 32488 32489 32490 32659 32661 32822 32823 32824 32825 32979 32980 32990 32996 32999 33004 33126 33127 33128 33267 33269 33399 33400 33401 33525 33525 33526 33642 33643 33751 33752 33752 33827 33836 33853 33854 33946 33947 33947 33948 34033 34033 34111 34111 34111 34112 34181 34182 34244 34244 34244 34245 34299 34299 34346 34346 34346 34346 34385 34385 34416 34417 34417 34417 34440 34440 34456 34456 34456 34464 34464 34656 34662 34664 34670 35488 35496 36311 36317 36319 36325 37137 37146 37955 37960 37963 37969 38775 38783 39586 39592 39595 40401 40409 41206 41211 41214 42013 42016 42022 42812 42820 43613 43616 43621 44405 44413 45194 45199 45202 45207 45984 45993 46766 46771 46774 46779 47549 47557 48323 48329 48331 48337 49099 49107 49866 49871 49873 49879 50633 50641 51392 51397 51400 51405 52152 52160 52903 52908 52910 53654 53662 54397 54404 55140 55142 55147 55873 55881 56603 56608 56610 56615 57333 57340 58053 58058 58061 58066 58774 58781 59486 59490 59493 59498 60197 60204 60899 60904 60906 60911 61601 61608 62294 62298 62301 62305 62986 62993 63669 63673 63676 64351 64358 65024 65028 65031 
Total time taken by CPU
2.57


Sieve
:

   
Sieve of Eratosthenes (Scaled to 10 Iterations)
   
Version 1.203 April 1992

   
Array Size   Number   Last Prime    Linear     RunTime    MIPS
    
(Bytes)   of Primes               Time(sec)    (Sec)
       
8191       1899        16381   0.000687   0.000687  2414.6
      10000       2261        19997   0.000838   0.000877  2315.8
      20000       4202        39989   0.001677   0.001907  2158.1
      40000       7836        79999   0.003353   0.004272  1950.4
      80000      14683       160001   0.006706   0.009460  1782.1
     160000      27607       319993   0.013413   0.017090  1994.6
     320000      52073       639997   0.026825   0.034180  2015.3
     640000      98609      1279997   0.053651   0.075684  1838.3
    1280000     187133      2559989   0.107301   0.136719  2054.4
    2560000     356243      5119997   0.214603   0.322266  1758.8
    5120000     679460     10239989   0.429206   1.699219   672.8
   10240000    1299068     20479999   0.858412   1.484375  1553.1
   20480000    2488465     40960001   1.716823   8.437500   550.8

   Relative to 10 Iterations 
and the 8191 Array Size:
   
Average RunTime 0.001226 (sec)
   
High  MIPS      =   2414.6
   Low   MIPS      
=    550.8



Whetstone
:

Please wait...

Loops50000 Iterations1 Duration14.9 seconds
C Converted Double Precision Whetstones
335.1 MIPS


All tests done
.



g4

CPUBench v1.0


RageMem
:

RAGEMEM v0.37 compiled 11/06/2010

CPU
Motorola MPC 7447/7457 Apollo 1.2 1533 Mhz
Caches Sizes
L132 KB L2512 KB L3none
Cache Line
32

---> CPU  L1  L2  RAM  VIDEO BUS 
  Ptr_Comp
:          1733292120
        should be
:   (implementation-dependent)
  
Discr:             0
        should be
:   0
  Enum_Comp
:         2
        should be
:   2
  Int_Comp
:          17
        should be
:   17
  Str_Comp
:          DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
        should be
:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
Next_Ptr_Glob
->
  
Ptr_Comp:          1733292120
        should be
:   (implementation-dependent), same as above
  Discr
:             0
        should be
:   0
  Enum_Comp
:         1
        should be
:   1
  Int_Comp
:          18
        should be
:   18
  Str_Comp
:          DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
        should be
:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAMSOME STRING
Int_1_Loc
:           5
        should be
:   5
Int_2_Loc
:           13
        should be
:   13
Int_3_Loc
:           7
        should be
:   7
Enum_Loc
:            1
        should be
:   1
Str_1_Loc
:           DHRYSTONE PROGRAM1'ST STRING
        should be:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAM, 1'
ST STRING
Str_2_Loc
:           DHRYSTONE PROGRAM2'ND STRING
        should be:   DHRYSTONE PROGRAM, 2'
ND STRING

Duration in seconds
:                        34.0 
Microseconds 
for one run through Dhrystone0.7 
Dhrystones per Second
:                      1470616.1 
Dhrystone MIPS 
(DMIPS)                      837 



Quicksort
:
Elaborating quicksort of 1000 numbers repeated for 10 times
Unsorted 
array: 
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Sorted 
array: 
-
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475 30483 30603 30605 30843 30844 30846 31075 31077 31299 31300 31301 31302 31314 31320 31322 31328 31517 31519 31725 31727 31728 31729 31928 31930 32122 32123 32124 32125 32156 32165 32309 32311 32487 32488 32489 32490 32659 32661 32822 32823 32824 32825 32979 32980 32990 32996 32999 33004 33126 33127 33128 33267 33269 33399 33400 33401 33525 33525 33526 33642 33643 33751 33752 33752 33827 33836 33853 33854 33946 33947 33947 33948 34033 34033 34111 34111 34111 34112 34181 34182 34244 34244 34244 34245 34299 34299 34346 34346 34346 34346 34385 34385 34416 34417 34417 34417 34440 34440 34456 34456 34456 34464 34464 34656 34662 34664 34670 35488 35496 36311 36317 36319 36325 37137 37146 37955 37960 37963 37969 38775 38783 39586 39592 39595 40401 40409 41206 41211 41214 42013 42016 42022 42812 42820 43613 43616 43621 44405 44413 45194 45199 45202 45207 45984 45993 46766 46771 46774 46779 47549 47557 48323 48329 48331 48337 49099 49107 49866 49871 49873 49879 50633 50641 51392 51397 51400 51405 52152 52160 52903 52908 52910 53654 53662 54397 54404 55140 55142 55147 55873 55881 56603 56608 56610 56615 57333 57340 58053 58058 58061 58066 58774 58781 59486 59490 59493 59498 60197 60204 60899 60904 60906 60911 61601 61608 62294 62298 62301 62305 62986 62993 63669 63673 63676 64351 64358 65024 65028 65031 
Total time taken by CPU
2.48


Sieve
:

   
Sieve of Eratosthenes (Scaled to 10 Iterations)
   
Version 1.203 April 1992

   
Array Size   Number   Last Prime    Linear     RunTime    MIPS
    
(Bytes)   of Primes               Time(sec)    (Sec)
       
8191       1899        16381   0.000687   0.000687  2414.6
      10000       2261        19997   0.000838   0.000877  2315.8
      20000       4202        39989   0.001677   0.001907  2158.1
      40000       7836        79999   0.003353   0.004272  1950.4
      80000      14683       160001   0.006706   0.009460  1782.1
     160000      27607       319993   0.013413   0.017090  1994.6
     320000      52073       639997   0.026825   0.037842  1820.3
     640000      98609      1279997   0.053651   0.073242  1899.5
    1280000     187133      2559989   0.107301   0.151367  1855.6
    2560000     356243      5119997   0.214603   0.292969  1934.6
    5120000     679460     10239989   0.429206   0.937500  1219.5
   10240000    1299068     20479999   0.858412   3.789062   608.4
   20480000    2488465     40960001   1.716823   8.593750   540.7

   Relative to 10 Iterations 
and the 8191 Array Size:
   
Average RunTime 0.001283 (sec)
   
High  MIPS      =   2414.6
   Low   MIPS      
=    540.7



Whetstone
:

Please wait...

Loops50000 Iterations1 Duration15.0 seconds
C Converted Double Precision Whetstones
332.7 MIPS


All tests done
.


script used (I changed the cpu between 7457 and g3 for the tests)

qemu-system-ppc -machine pegasos2 ^
  -
cpu 7457 ^
  -
m 1024 ^
  -
bios pegasos2.rom ^
  -
rtc base=localtime ^
  -
serial stdio ^
  -
vga none ^
  -
drive media=disk,format=raw,file=hdf\peg2.img ^
  -
device sm501 ^
  -
device rtl8139,netdev=network00 -netdev user,id=network00

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Thanks for the comparison test, since I was also unsure, I also compared CPU g3 and g4 7457 and my results show that sometimes the G3 cpu is faster, sometimes the 4G CPU 7457.

RageMem:

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SortBench:

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QuickSort:

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I have both CPU results packed side by side, left side CPU G3, right side CPU G4 7457.

MacStudio ARM M1 Max Qemu//Pegasos2 AmigaOs4.1 FE / AmigaOne A1222plus AmigaOs4.1 FE
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Tested Amigaos4 Pegasos II on Qemu 8.0.2 with a Core i5 10400F and Windows 10. Raw cpu seems to have potential. Cpu intensive task like unpacking feel fast enough. File access and copy is also acceptabel (SFS).
The overall experience feels slower then my Sam440 with Radeon 9200.

Would it make sense to install Linux instead? Does it bring any benefits?

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