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Have you interest to have "putty" for os4 ?
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Will you in interest, to have os4 port of welknown ssh/rlogin/telnet client for all the oses - Putty ? If there will be more than 10-15 users who will be in interest, then i will create a bounty for that and will start to works on it. But for first i need to know: need it for you or not.

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@kas1e

It would be nice to have it integrated into the shell itself but yes. I use http://haanstra.eu/putty/ daily.

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Let's talk about it here .. I.e. what must to have "initial" os4 port (first versin). I think it must be:

- GUI part
- Basic/Initial support of the SSH
- Support for the "ssh keys" (if possibly, port also Putty-gen).

What else ?

Ps. About "integrated to shell". Well, yes, i think in end will be good to just redirect all input/output to the "cli" window.

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Can you tell me more about putty? I thought it was a game.

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@Antique

Check that page for full description about Putty.

In easy words, it's the best SSH/Telnet/Rlogin and all the other terminal crap client. That toolz very usable by the all the administators in all the world. The widely usage of it, when you have unix machine, and want to "control" it remote.

Screenshots:

First running
(gui for write all the stuff like where you will connect, by which protocol, on which ip, with or without using of keys, with which kind of terminal (ansi/vt100/etc) and so on).

work window + gui window at one time

work window example

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@Antique

He means PuTTY SSH.

Apart from that it has a GUI it's not much different from the OpenSSH SSH client which already exists for AmigaOS 4. Probably someone could create a similar GUI for OpenSSH just as easily and it would work about as well.

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Imho, openssh can't do many thinks which can do Putty. And that all about usability and "stuff". Like, for example, you press on menu, and can choice "reset terminal", or, for example, the very-very usable part: you just grab by mouse any text data, and after you realise the mouse button, all the text in the clipboard already (no need to press these annoing combos all the time) and so on.

Of course it possible, just write "workoraund" for openssh, with adding menu, gui, and all other crap. But that will be the same putty in end 1:1, so for what need to boring about writing new programm, when we can port that.

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Yes please :)

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@kas1e

Redirect to shell may be useful to some, but really shell may not be able to do proper color handling and handling live resizing may not be as easy as it sounds. It's not just about redirecting output, it's a two way street.

If anything shell support should be a new bounty or at least not a part of the initial one.

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@kas1e

It would be nice, but porting windows tool with to AOS sounds one PITA.
Edit: just saw there's an unix version too, appears to be a gtk one, that implies cygnix...

I would like too cee muicon from mos or similar on aos.
Meanwhile stuck with VinCEd till something better materializes.
OT: ssh server for AOS would be a nice thing to have too.

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As we talk on the #amigadev, looks like for the initial version we need:

- GUI (mui)
- working with network for SSH (at begining). That can be over openssl i think.

Imho that can be enough for the initial version ?

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- GUI (mui)
- working with network for SSH (at begining). That can be over openssl i think.


What has openssl to do with that besides that implementation of openssh protocol will require openssl library.

As to mui gui, muicon is n enhanced con implementation, and theres sshcon.
We need a tabbed console window anyway. Not for ssh only, but for AOS itself.
Once there's one with proper terminal capability (ansi/vtxyz etc), the existing ssh port will benefit from it.

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First I should test ssh on Amiga.

What I need in fact :
- ssh usable in a shell to access remote stations (my Linux server for example)
- a graphical program to manage terminal communication for example to get the serial line (debug, control console of bootloader on a remote board, ...)

I don't know exactly what putty does ...

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Yeah, many thinks must to be done for os4. But i am not os4 developer, and i can't rewrite or add code to the current os4-shell. As well as i know, for the upcoming update will be new shell.

The question about i ask: will be ppls in interest about putty port exactly. Putty is not about "Shell". It's about having exactly "putty" layout and features. You know, these little, easy to use and full of features Putty only thinks.

So the answer directly for you: will you support bounty for porting Putty ?

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Putty does all what you say and more of it + tons of different and nice for usability thinks.

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@Jack

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We need a tabbed console window anyway.


There will be a new shell for OS4.1 with tabbed GUI AFAIK - not sure wether it will make it to the next OS4.1.1 update or not.

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PuTTY SSH would be great!

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YES.

even more interested in the 'le putty' fork, that has z-modem support.

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I use PuTTY Tray at work and it would be nice to be able to use the same session files on the Amiga.

The main differences of the Tray version is 1) the way it minimizes (not concerned), 2) the alternative to save sessions in a file rather than in the Windows registry.

I mainly use the tunnel feature of SSH to access remote servers thru an encrypted path.
I succeeded in doing it with the OpenSSH client in OS4.1, opening a usable VNC session to a remote 2003 Server.

What I still haven't found is a WinSCP like client.


In conclusion, PuTTY is kind of a "must have" on MS OS and it would be nice to have it on AOS.

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I'm very intrested in having Putty for my amiga, or muicon but putty would be prefered.

I think this is the last piece of sotware i need for AmigaOS atm to be able to use OS4 all the time at home.

It doesn't have to be putty but i need a shell with good terminal capabilities


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I use PuTTY Tray at work and it would be nice to be able to use the same session files on the Amiga.

The main differences of the Tray version is 1) the way it minimizes (not concerned), 2) the alternative to save sessions in a file rather than in the Windows registry.


Nice I didn't know about PuttyTray until yet I'll adopt it right now on.
About the minimizing stuff don't put it aside too fast a docky might be used to mimic this and it would then be a feature as useful as it could be under Windows.

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What I still haven't found is a WinSCP like client


If you are searching for a graphical SCP client there is none I know of, however Steven Solie ported OpenSSH under AOS4 so there is an scp *text* client.

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There will be a new shell for OS4.1 with tabbed GUI AFAIK - not sure wether it will make it to the next OS4.1.1 update.

Not yet. There's more work needed to make it perfect

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