sgrab and arexx with upd1

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MichaelMerkel

Posted on: 2010/1/24 14:42 #1

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hi.

using upd1 i get a requester with smth like "unable to open arexx interface" when trying to start sgrab... this is also when booting from the install cd...

ideas?
thanks and regards
Michael

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Kicko

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/24 14:48 #2

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@MichaelMerkel

I just get that "failed to open arexx interface" the second time i run Sgrab. I had that before update 1 too.

kas1e

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/24 14:49 #3

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@MichaelMerkel

That happenes all the time, with all OS4 versions and updates. If i remember right, the same problems also on OS3.9 (that mean bad sgrab itself).

Like you run it first time, and it runs good, for second its always say about unabling of arexx blabal (because of it on openamiga project about replacing sgrab are starts).

But to be honest dunno why author cant fix sgrab at last. Maybe no one report it ?

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MichaelMerkel

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/24 19:49 #4

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@Kicko

Quote:

Kicko wrote:
@MichaelMerkel

I just get that "failed to open arexx interface" the second time i run Sgrab. I had that before update 1 too.

that's it. i had two entries in wbstartup. removed one and voila

regards...

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MichaelMerkel

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/24 19:50 #5

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@kas1e

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kas1e wrote:
@MichaelMerkel

That happenes all the time, with all OS4 versions and updates. If i remember right, the same problems also on OS3.9 (that mean bad sgrab itself).

Like you run it first time, and it runs good, for second its always say about unabling of arexx blabal (because of it on openamiga project about replacing sgrab are starts).

that's the solution. don't start it twice

after all it is a commodity which is started once at startup and then called via keypress.

regards...

Michael Merkel

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Antique

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/24 20:21 #6

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@MichaelMerkel

Nice one. Didn't know that. But a notify too from the program would be nice.

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Raziel

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 15:08 #7

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@Antique

Stephan Rupprecht (the author) once told me why the error message about a missing arexx interface comes up.

If you click on the close gadget of SGrab it is NOT closed (quit) instead it will be hidden (iconified). Therefore due to the fact the arexx interface is still in use, the error message pops up.

If you want to close SGrab you have to do it from the menu.

Why he chose to design it that way i don't remember or he forgot to tell me back then

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pvanni

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 17:49 #8

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@Raziel

sgrab it's a commodity so it's normal that the close
gadget only close the interface and not the commodity
itself, the bad thing it's the message,
it's better something like "sgrab it's allready running etc."

Snuffy

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 19:07 #9

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Hi @Raziel
Thanks for the reminder!
Why he chose to design it that way i don't remember or he forgot to tell me back then...
IIRC, Arexx port communication...

centaurz

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 19:32 #10

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@Snuffy

I still don't get why running SGrab a second time doesn't just "wake up" the first instance like any commodity does.

Kicko

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 22:01 #11

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@centaurz

That would be nice if it did

Raziel

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/25 22:07 #12

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@pvanni
@Snuffy

Yeah, that's why, i thought i forgot something

Unfortunately it doesn't seem Stefan has any spare time left to work on his software anymore. Some eMails regarding bugs and feature requests are lost in the void.

robo-ant

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/26 5:22 #13

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Yes, SGrab is a commodity and so it's still lurking around in memory somewhere, and I agree that it would be good if the interface of the already loaded program would appear when trying to start it again.

But this conversation made me realize something: My OS4.1 Update 1 CD doesn't have SGrab on it! I didn't verify the disk before installing. I wonder what else is missing or corrupted.

<grumble grumble grumble>

Edit: I have just verified the CD against Sam440InstallCD-Upd1.iso which I still have on my hard drive, and it checks out OK with AmiDVD. But there is no SGrab on the CD. The drawer is there, in Utilities, and it has some stuff inside that looks like it is related to USB. Does anyone else see this or am I the only one?

Edited by robo-ant on 2010/1/26 5:40:29

Raziel

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/26 6:58 #14

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@robo-ant

This is all i have on my installation CD:
Quote:

AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab.info
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/SGrab
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/SGrab.guide
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/SGrab.guide.info
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/SGrab.info
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/deutsch
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/espa?ol
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/fran?ais
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/italiano
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/Magyar
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/norsk
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/polski
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/Portugu?s
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/russian
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/svenska
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/t?rk?e
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/?e?tina
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/polski.info
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/sgrab.cd
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/deutsch/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/espa?ol/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/espa?ol/sgrab.ct
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/fran?ais/SGrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/italiano/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/Magyar/SGrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/norsk/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/polski/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/Portugu?s/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/russian/SGrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/svenska/sgrab.catalog
AmigaOS 4.1 Update1 AmigaOne:System/Utilities/SGrab/catalogs/?e?tina/sgrab.catalog

Snuffy

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/26 18:33 #15

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@robo-ant

Yes, SGrab is a commodity and so it's still lurking around in memory somewhere
No, it's a program in Sys:Utiilties.Should be version 1.29 (07/06/2006). Did you look before leaping?
<grumble grumble grumble>
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robo-ant

Re: sgrab and arexx with upd1

Posted on: 2010/1/27 5:16 #16

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@Raziel

My SGrab drawer is a portal to alternate realities. It does not contain the same drawers and files as it did last night. Now the one on the CD is empty, but the one on my Workbench partition contains a "Sys" drawer containing "amigaguide.guide" and "Workbench.guide" in what looks like Polish. There is no sign of the usb-related files from the other night.

I fear something must be wrong with my filesystem.

However, I have checked the CD against the .iso and AmiDVD says it's the same. I have tested the .lha file from the command line and there are no errors. I haven't tested that the .iso is the same as the one in the .lha file yet, and I haven't compared with the .lha file on the USB stick I transported the update file on. USB was very buggy before Update 1 and I depended on it to get the update to my Sam. I will have to look into this further.

@Snuffy

Quote:

No, it's a program in Sys:Utiilties.Should be version 1.29 (07/06/2006).

I consider it a commodity no matter where it is stored, if it keeps running with no GUI and can have the GUI restored with a keypress or from Exchange.

Thanks for the version info. It's the same one as came with the previous version of the OS, so I have copied it.

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