perl from latest sdk gurus if threads.library is not installed. this lib is not installed in 4.1 update 1.

@TSK

There is a problem like this for tunnet asl req. menus. 4.1 update 1 versin

@logicalheart

I'm not a developer but I tried VNC server on the Amiga SAM and found it to be slow--maybe I don't have it setup right though.

@bean
maybe not a bug in 8.90 but

skin gui-->play mp3 file
iconify/deiconify->loads up gui
go to Tune tab->can't move forward in song with time slider

reload mp3->time slider is active

just recently seeing owb 315 crash amigaworld.net on os41 consistently:

Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x0165C518 belongs to module "newlib.library.kmod" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00007798

module OWB at 0x6F5E7A10 (section 5 @ 0x9979F0)
module OWB at 0x6F5E748C (section 5 @ 0x99746C)
module OWB at 0x6F5DF1EC (section 5 @ 0x98F1CC)
module OWB at 0x6F5DED7C (section 5 @ 0x98ED5C)
module OWB at 0x6F5B4AA8 (section 5 @ 0x964A88)
module OWB at 0x6F5C6248 (section 5 @ 0x976228)
module OWB at 0x6F5C85E4 (section 5 @ 0x9785C4)
module OWB at 0x6F5C8CDC (section 5 @ 0x978CBC)
module OWB at 0x6F5C592C (section 5 @ 0x97590C)
module OWB at 0x6F5B234C (section 5 @ 0x96232C)
module OWB at 0x6F5AC1DC (section 5 @ 0x95C1BC)
module OWB at 0x6F5AC2BC (section 5 @ 0x95C29C)
module OWB at 0x6F0FE350 (section 5 @ 0x4AE330)
module OWB at 0x6ECB59B4 (section 5 @ 0x65994)
module OWB at 0x6ECB5BA0 (section 5 @ 0x65B80)
module OWB at 0x6ECB5D44 (section 5 @ 0x65D24)
module OWB at 0x6EF26008 (section 5 @ 0x2D5FE8)
module OWB at 0x6EF521DC (section 5 @ 0x3021BC)
module OWB at 0x6EEE1CEC (section 5 @ 0x291CCC)
module OWB at 0x6EEE4C18 (section 5 @ 0x294BF8)
module OWB at 0x6EEE4C18 (section 5 @ 0x294BF8)
module OWB at 0x6EF804D8 (section 5 @ 0x3304B8)
module OWB at 0x6F23C684 (section 5 @ 0x5EC664)
module OWB at 0x6EEF6050 (section 5 @ 0x2A6030)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF36238 (section 5 @ 0x2E6218)
module OWB at 0x6EF35C88 (section 5 @ 0x2E5C68)
module OWB at 0x6EF362FC (section 5 @ 0x2E62DC)
module OWB at 0x6EEC2828 (section 5 @ 0x272808)
module OWB at 0x6ECECFBC (section 5 @ 0x9CF9C)
module OWB at 0x6EF7E784 (section 5 @ 0x32E764)
module OWB at 0x6EEE1CEC (section 5 @ 0x291CCC)
module OWB at 0x6EEE4C18 (section 5 @ 0x294BF8)
module OWB at 0x6EF804D8 (section 5 @ 0x3304B8)
module OWB at 0x6F23C684 (section 5 @ 0x5EC664)
module OWB at 0x6EEF6050 (section 5 @ 0x2A6030)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF6109C (section 5 @ 0x31107C)
module OWB at 0x6EF63FB0 (section 5 @ 0x313F90)
module OWB at 0x6EF63DF8 (section 5 @ 0x313DD8)
module OWB at 0x6EF5AA84 (section 5 @ 0x30AA64)
module OWB at 0x6EF59660 (section 5 @ 0x309640)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF6109C (section 5 @ 0x31107C)
module OWB at 0x6EF63FB0 (section 5 @ 0x313F90)
module OWB at 0x6EF63DF8 (section 5 @ 0x313DD8)
module OWB at 0x6EF5AA84 (section 5 @ 0x30AA64)
module OWB at 0x6EF59660 (section 5 @ 0x309640)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF6109C (section 5 @ 0x31107C)
module OWB at 0x6EF63FB0 (section 5 @ 0x313F90)
module OWB at 0x6EF63DF8 (section 5 @ 0x313DD8)
module OWB at 0x6EF5AA84 (section 5 @ 0x30AA64)
module OWB at 0x6EF59660 (section 5 @ 0x309640)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF6109C (section 5 @ 0x31107C)
module OWB at 0x6EF63FB0 (section 5 @ 0x313F90)
module OWB at 0x6EF63DF8 (section 5 @ 0x313DD8)
module OWB at 0x6EF5AA84 (section 5 @ 0x30AA64)
module OWB at 0x6EF59660 (section 5 @ 0x309640)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EEF5EC8 (section 5 @ 0x2A5EA8)
module OWB at 0x6EEFB420 (section 5 @ 0x2AB400)
module OWB at 0x6EEF0AC4 (section 5 @ 0x2A0AA4)
module OWB at 0x6EF36238 (section 5 @ 0x2E6218)
module OWB at 0x6EF35C88 (section 5 @ 0x2E5C68)
module OWB at 0x6EF362FC (section 5 @ 0x2E62DC)
module OWB at 0x6EEC2828 (section 5 @ 0x272808)
module OWB at 0x6ECECFBC (section 5 @ 0x9CF9C)
module OWB at 0x6EC86218 (section 5 @ 0x361F8)
module OWB at 0x6EC6136C (section 5 @ 0x1134C)
module OWB at 0x6EC58018 (section 5 @ 0x7FF8)
module OWB at 0x6EC5BBB8 (section 5 @ 0xBB98)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00001f38
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002bcc
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d48
OWB:_start()+0x170 (section 1 @ 0x170)
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x0001ea6c
native kernel module kernel+0x000582ac
native kernel module kernel+0x0005832c

@tonyw

Just a free evening :) ... there are definitely way better things to do to improve OS4 as these things are so very minor.

Type "list users groups" in a shell.

I just noticed some inconsistencies:

No Iconify Gadget
ScreenBlanker Prefs
PlayCD
Clock
USBInspector
Mounter
Format
Picasso96Mode (but old program)
shell (old)
Workbench windows(old)

Iconify Gadget does not work:
PrefsObjectsEditor

Iconify Icon (does not use *.info) but shows pictures of a shell
RawDisk
PartitionWizard
Also, for some reason uses old 3.1 "Busy" disk icon when "checking" disk even though deficon is loaded (does not always happen).


Also, the location of where the program will iconify on the WB screen is not the same...seems like Unarc, IconEdit uses the *.info location. Other programs just place to the far left.

"Installer" log files create the ugly 3.1 icons...probably some of these older programs should be scrubbed through to utilze the new OS4.1 icons.

I was bored and used the scroll arrows with the "backdrop" off in WB....and found that it wraps around after awhile....interesting. It looks like this is true of any WB drawer window as well. The only issue when it is in this state, is double-clicking the icon is non-responsive.


Not that it matters--but protection bits are different for group and others. As an example:


Directory "Devs" on Wednesday 05-Aug-09
usbprinter.device 12192 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
printtofile.device 9136 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
Printers.info 7713 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
printer.device 73092 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
ppc440ep_serial.device 17556 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed ---- ---- 10-Sep-08 10:58:48
postscript_init.ps 7807 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
NSDPatch.cfg.sample 36148 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
NSDPatch.cfg 36273 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed ---- ---- 21-Sep-08 09:06:00
NetInterfaces.info 6187 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
Monitors.info 7527 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
KeyMaps.info 7753 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
DOSDrivers.info 6961 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
DataTypes.info 8464 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d ---- ---- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
curl-ca-bundle.crt 195144 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rw-d rw-d rw-d 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
clipboard.device 11796 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed r-e- r-e- 09-Sep-08 13:37:53
audio.device 12152 <No Owner> <No Group> ----rwed rwed rwed 09-Sep-08 13:37:53

@tonyw

Booting would be great to have! Would be nice to have defrag as part of the toolset...most things are ghosted for JXFS in PartitionWizard.

@Deniil

Block Size = 512 (I think it has to be 512 for it to work).

For buffer, I have set to 1024 (not sure if something better than that).

@Spirantho

ATSC (HDTV) tuner?

@Daedalus

I'd like to try it but don't see a download link on your website :(

@my_pc_is_amiga

2) I was trying to see if I could use bru with my dvd+rw....but looks like the dvd+rw is shown as read-only. Not sure why that is -- both DOS (info) and Workbench information shows it is write-protected. AmiDVD is okay and is able to write to it...

So I can't format it with the 4.1 tools either...this wasn't a "brand new" disk.

@Chris

Ah, I see...

6.Workbench:Fonts> type CGTimes.otag hex
0000: 80001001 00000136 80009002 000000C0 .......6.......?
0010: 8000A024 000000C4 8000A026 000000E4 ..?$...?..?&...?
0020: 80009003 000000ED 8000A009 000000F6 .......?..?....?
0030: 80001010 00000002 80001011 00640075 .............d.u
0040: 80002012 00000AC8 80002013 00000000 .. ....?.. .....
0050: 80001014 00000001 80001015 00000078 ...............x
0060: 80001016 00000000 80001017 00000090 ................
0070: 80002019 00000000 80009020 000000FE .. ........ ...?
0080: 80002021 00000000 8000A022 00000116 .. !......?"....
0090: 80001100 00000004 80001103 00000000 ................
00A0: 80001104 00000001 80001105 00000000 ................
00B0: 80001106 00000000 00000000 00000000 ................
00C0: 66743200 464F4E54 533A5F74 72756574 ft2.FONTS:_truet
00D0: 7970652F 44656A61 56755365 7269662E ype/DejaVuSerif.
00E0: 74746600 74727565 74797065 00434720 ttf.truetype.CG
00F0: 54696D65 73004347 54696D65 7300000B Times.CGTimes...
0100: 0008000A 000C000E 00100014 00180020 ...............
0110: 0030003C 0048E000 02FF5000 71FB0000 .0.<.H?..?P.q?..
0120: 00200000 00004000 02DF1000 30000000 . ....@..?..0...

I've been scanning through smoe of the 4.1 files

1) I'm not seeing _bullet or _bullet_outline in 4.1. Are fonts like CGTimes really TrueType in 4.1 and hence are not intellifont...

TVPaint was looking for _bullet_outline and I couldn't change it to _TrueType

2) Also noticed HDBackup.help...looks like this was leftover from 3.x -- no hdbackup tool but there is bru...has anybody gotten bru to work on the SAM?

3) What does SP_Engine do in System dir and also the Profiles dir?

@tonyw

Nice!

@Slayer

Here are a few tips that I had picked from various forums:

1) Workbench:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys/def_drawer.info
Change icon to suite your needs (show all, sort by name, etc.) so that psuedo-drawer icons work as you expect.

2) For a quicker boot sequence:
Uboot -- minmize delay for uboot prompt / menu progress prompt
Change these with NVSetVar in Amiga shell:
menuboot_delay
bootdelay

Change startup-sequence to this:
Run >NIL: C:AddNetInterface QUIET DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info)

3) For "Unarc" change the tooltype "DESTINATION=RAM:" or to another path to suite your need.

4) PlayCD has capablity to set a URL for it to check the names of songs on a CD and keep this as a database. Only issue here is that PlayCD assumes the DVD/CD drive is connected to the audio in. Newer drives like mine doesn't have this (so how to play AIFF except through TuneNet).

Things I have not figured out:

a) how to get ctrl-backslash to work. (to close shell window)
b) how to reverse "window"/alt key so that alt becomes "Amiga" and "Windows" alt.
c) How to get the Radeon monitor to work with my HDMI input on my TV.
Modes like MODE=1920x1080@60i+RB should work but I just get a black screen. Only DE=640x480@60 works through DVI-HDMI cable I have
d) How to setup serial port to a serial terminal on another computer.
Can a telnetd server be installed on the Amiga? And then another computer has the client?
e) How to map multimedia keys with Fkey?
f) How does AmigaInput work? I don't quite understand the 4 port mappings for lowlevel.library. As the Amiga has only 2 ports. Which one was the common port for mouse and joystick?

@Slayer

What would be the best playback settings for mplayer...in order keep audio/video in sync. A high quality mp4 that I downloaded from a youtube donwload site, didn't play so well. A much lower quality was fine in playing.

@broadblues

Thanks -- it looks like it is working when using it that way.
Intially, when trying to capture tunenet it seem to still show background but then later it was okay.

There seems to be a "flash" of when the actual capture takes place to when it goes back to sgrab. So if the capture is not timed right, it might capture the deactivated state.

I like the "Mark and Grab". However, with transparency on the window I want to grab shows the stuff beneth. I can switch off in prefs but would be nice if SGrab would keep the windows as activated instead of defaulting back to the "workbench" window. Cause once in mark mode it shows the window that I had activated in un-activated mode (and thus the transparent stuff shows through).

I just noticed 1 more thing from the current release:
I have in my startup-sequence:
Run >NIL: C:AddNetInterface QUIET DEVS:NetInterfaces/~(#?.info)

And have user-startup with:
run >NIL: Work:TuneNet/TuneNet -stream http://82.149.227.170:8000

In earlier release Tunenet would keep trying to connect -- in 86.66 seems like it is not. Basically, with using the "run" for addnetinterface" it allows WB to bootup faster but its IP is not ready completely when TuneNet starts. Tunenet was okay with this before but the behavior has changed now